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lwood
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:36:26
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
sad opet pocinje rasprava sc/hc cijene. provokacije (?)
sjecam se da je stinkac markosa jednom davno nazvao "rusiteljem strip scene u hrvata". ajd da analiziramo. ako sad kazem da je u pravu, vrijedjam li markosa? ne. markos je napravio puno toga za strip. neupitno. cak je pokrenio hc-kena. sad, sta se desilo. skuzili ljudi da se tu moze zaraditi neka para (za tulave, nazalost moram stalno pojasnjavati pristup nekim pojmovima: zaraditi = nista lose.). e sad, znaci skuzili ljudi da mozes upakirati nesto sto je, recimo, neiscrpno (bonelli produkcija) u hc i zaraditi (nista lose, ok). vidi system, pa libellus, ex markos(!)
no sta je problem. stinkac nije glup i predvidio je taj razvoj. a hoce strip na kiosku po pristupacnoj cijeni. sad imamo pola bonellija u hc-u (sto ja podrzavam ako su ciljna grupa knjiznice, par strastvenih kolekcionara i ako postoji mogucnost da to dodje u nekoj normalnoj varijanti i na kioske), a inace je to sve skupa perverzija na stotu. idu blek i mark, a mister no i tex sc-"integrali" ne bi prosli? hahaha
na kraju, ta izdanja nisu pisana za snobove, pa se malo zamislite i oko toga.
eto, markos je jednostavno pokrenio nesto (da opet pojasnjavam: kao veliki ljubitelj stripa), sto su drugi preuzeli da zarade koju paru (nista lose, bla), ali s time smanjili vjerovatnocu jeftinih bonelli-integrala na kiosku. bonellijevi junaci prodaju druge vrijednosti.
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niko nikome ne smeta da otkupi prava i štampa bonelija ili bilo koje druge stripove pa ih prodaje i za 1 kunu ako oce. cinjenica da takvih izdavaca nema,ocito nije isplativo. bolje da nešto izade i u HC nego da uopce ne izade.
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Pavel01
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:40:48
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cekao sam ovakav tulavi odgovor da i ja opet konacno nekome kazem: ti si idiot. i isprovociram ban. adio.
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Porter
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:48:27
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Ovo mi simpanticno od Pavela,sto je popizdio. Najbolje rjesenje da se Markos i Stinky nadju na kafici i ragovaraju o ovome sto se desilo. Ostala prepucavanja drugih clanova foruma su nepotrebna.
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dcopic
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:50:41
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A što ti Pavel01 ne bi barem upisao svoje ime u profil ili možda broj godina ko nosiš na plecima?! Još i ime i broj godina nisu bitni ako je to tvoja mala tajna, ali pobogu napiši barem iz kojeg si grada!
'Moj je dojam, za koji doista nemam egzaktnih argumenata, da nigdje nema toliko banalnosti i trivijalnsti kao u tekstovima na ekranima'
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:56:01
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quote: Originally posted by dcopic
A što ti Pavel01 ne bi barem upisao svoje ime u profil ili možda broj godina ko nosiš na plecima?! Još i ime i broj godina nisu bitni ako je to tvoja mala tajna, ali pobogu napiši barem iz kojeg si grada!
'Moj je dojam, za koji doista nemam egzaktnih argumenata, da nigdje nema toliko banalnosti i trivijalnsti kao u tekstovima na ekranima'
vidiš da je to neki nadri filozof ,a takvi uvik misle da su najpametniji. vjerovatno bi ga dekomodalo da ostavi ime i prezime. |
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globinjo
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:56:58
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
cekao sam ovakav tulavi odgovor da i ja opet konacno nekome kazem: ti si idiot. i isprovociram ban. adio.
adio do sutra navecer...glede izbacivanja stinka...nije mi drago,ali ako je tako markos odlucio...da se mene pita,vratio bih ga,ali nije na meni...tko zna,možda ga i vrati,ali oce li onda stinky se htjeti vratiti...
...BEZ PINEZI I RIŠPETA RODILO SE DITE PUKA,IZ JUBAVI IZ DIŠPETA... ...i onda kad ne bude nas bilo,stripove ce citat' naše... ...KONTRA MRAKU KONTRA SILI,NARESLO JE KA IZ VODE I TRKALO DO SLOBODE... |
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lwood
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:57:27
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
cekao sam ovakav tulavi odgovor da i ja opet konacno nekome kazem: ti si idiot. i isprovociram ban. adio.
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vidin da živiš u svom zamišljenom svitu djecace. svaticeš kad odrasteš. |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:58:37
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quote: Originally posted by globinjo
quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
cekao sam ovakav tulavi odgovor da i ja opet konacno nekome kazem: ti si idiot. i isprovociram ban. adio.
adio do sutra navecer...glede izbacivanja stinka...nije mi drago,ali ako je tako markos odlucio...da se mene pita,vratio bih ga,ali nije na meni...tko zna,možda ga i vrati,ali oce li onda stinky se htjeti vratiti...
...BEZ PINEZI I RIŠPETA RODILO SE DITE PUKA,IZ JUBAVI IZ DIŠPETA... ...i onda kad ne bude nas bilo,stripove ce citat' naše... ...KONTRA MRAKU KONTRA SILI,NARESLO JE KA IZ VODE I TRKALO DO SLOBODE...
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marlowe
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 12:59:02
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Meni je samo drago da je ovo konacno zavrseno. Sad covek moze da se okrene novim stvarima. Dosta prezvakavanja. Bravo za System Comics.
________________________ Remember, remember the fifth of November, The gunpowder, treason and plot, I see of no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. |
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:02:27
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quote: Originally posted by Inferno
Konkretno pitanje; mislite li da ce Markos vratiti Stinkya nakon ovog pritiska? Treba uzet u obzir da neke stvari više nece nikad biti iste.
Ja mislim i nadam se da ce ga vratiti.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:03:33
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Stinky zna provocirati Markosa u vezi cijena i njegovih izdanja. Ne kontam cemu trosenje energije ako se necije izdanje smatra skupo ili lose,jednostavo takva izdanja ne treba da interesuju nikoga. Onda je najbolje usmjeriti svoju energiju na izdanja koja su prihvatljiva svakom pojedincu. Jos bolje usmjeriti energiju kako ubiti lovu pa da nam u zivotu nista nije skupo.Ovo je nemoguce jer svakom covjeku se posmaga za necim sto je izvan nasih mogucnosti. Inace izdanja Fibre i Libellusa teze prema savrsenstvu,tako da je svaka kuna koja se platih za njih potrosena na dobar nacin.
Stinky provocira iz kurtoazije a ne da bi nekome naškodio.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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kiky
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:05:28
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Stinky se fino raspisao na forumu i komentarima recenzija onih par dana što sam bio sasvim neopravdano izbacen sa foruma, te sam spremno docekao dan svoga povratka kako bi mu, po obicaju, oponirao, replicirao ili barem nadopunio što je napisao... ali eto moj povratak se poklopio sa njegovim neopravdanim i nepravednim izbacivanjem... i sad njega nema.
I šta sad da ja radim na ovom forumu?
I naravno da se markos ne može ovako ponašati, jer ovakvi njegovi postupci ce biti to što ce rastjerati ljude sa ovog foruma, a ne "svakojaki stinkyji". Ovako nastupati ne birajuci rijeci, jer to može, jer je ovdje jaci, jer je moderator... ma uopce ne treba druga strana (tj. stinky ili bilo tko drugi) ostati dužna, ili hladna na ovake izjave i neka uzvrati jednako, pa i jace. I neka je uzvratio kako je uzvratio, neka je...
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darkwoodaxe
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:24:26
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Ne treba davati specificirane podatke zbog cega je ta cijena,uopste nista od poslovnih poteza ne treba polagati racune. Svaki izdavac treba da odredi cijenu i fajrunt,ako je nama kupcima skupo onda to necemo kupovati.Ako sam prodavac vidi da mu taj proizvod ne ide a zna da je kvalitetan onda postoji mogucnost da sam izdavac smanji cijenu istog.
Kada bi se svi stripovi prodavali kao zex i afk onda bi svi i izlazili na kioscima svaka 3 tjedna. Cini mi se da neki misle da je realno izdavati nathana,texa... za kioske barem 1 mjesecno po 16 kuna. Ako je to tako onda su nakladnici urotnici pa eto radi dominacije zagora i af onemogucuju druge stripove da dodu do publike. Cisto sumnjam. Pa ovo nije 75 ili 77 kada je vojska jugovica svaki tjedan trcala na kioske po novi lunic ili zs. Tragicno je (provjereno) da se tex prodaje manje od bleka i marka, no što da sad fanovi placu što za 150 kuna mogu dobiti 4 uvezena broja? Alternativa im je slijedecih 81 broj cekati do 2020 godine (ako i to.) Pomirimo se da vecina nemože kupovati sve za kolekciju,no svatko ima priliku izvršiti odabir. Da dd izlazi sa 3 ili 4 epizode u knjizi kao tex tko sretniji od mene, u knjizi i pol dobio bi bernijevu godišnju redovnu produkciju. Kena Parkera bih rado kupovao, no nestvarno mi je 2 i pol soma kuna dati za zaostatke, ipak je to samo(fantastican) strip. No nije mi na kraj pameti jamrati radi cijene, citam kena u knjižnici medvešcak,tako sam procitao i 1.mm gigant i da imam trostruku placu ne bi za taj kaos od price dao 700 cuna na aukcijama, no netko za išaranog i poderanog dylana ne bi dao 2 kune, a ja sam dao skoro 200 (primam malinu za pametno poslovanje). A što se tice iskljucivanja s foruma... kad se ohlade glave sve nekako treba prebaciti na zafrkanciju. |
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Porter
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Sweden
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:30:29
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quote: Originally posted by globinjo
quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
cekao sam ovakav tulavi odgovor da i ja opet konacno nekome kazem: ti si idiot. i isprovociram ban. adio.
adio do sutra navecer...glede izbacivanja stinka...nije mi drago,ali ako je tako markos odlucio...da se mene pita,vratio bih ga,ali nije na meni...tko zna,možda ga i vrati,ali oce li onda stinky se htjeti vratiti...
Ne vidim drugu soluciju vec da Stinky ponovo jase konjima ludila po forumu ,Markos ga ne moze tek tako vratiti a da se ne nadju zajedno i popricaju u vezi ovoga. Ipak treba Stinky da kontaktira Markosa da porazgovaraju ili telefonski ili jos bolje u cetiri oka u vezi svega.
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:32:36
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S ovog su foruma otisli (ili su jako rijetko tu) Macan, Parlov, Bob, Kowalsky, Djole, Dzimi Gitara, Damjan, Degman, zveles, Ned Mace, Colt i jos puno, puno drugih pametnih, zanimljivih, konstruktivnih likova, a sad se tu dize prasina oko Stinkya? Necu ga vratiti. Nema sanse. Ne dolazi u obzir. Trpio sam ga zadnje 3 godine, ali sad mi je vise dosta. Ova sporna diskusija sama po sebi mozda i nije dovoljan razlog da ga izbacim, ali ovo je jednostavno bila kap koja je prelila cašu. Ne samo da me ide provocirati i nego mi se jos i smije u lice (ha,ha palim te ko sibicu). I sad bi ja to trebao trpit? Dokle? Koliko jos? Zar 3 godine nisu bile dovoljno?! Strasno mi zivcira stav ljudi koji ga brane govore "napravio je puno za sajt, zanimljiv je, sajt ce izgubiti", a sve gluposti koje je u ovom topicu rekao uopce nisu bitne. Pa on uopce nije VIDIO strip o kojem govori! Cijela njegova tirada je samo i iskljucivo (zlo)namjerna provokacija. JA TO VIŠE NECU TRPJETI. NE-CU. I guess what: jebe mi se sto je tko napravio za sajt, jebe mi se hoce li me netko zvati diktatorom ili ne, jebe mi se hoce li netko otici s jebenog foruma ili ne - apsolutno me se jebe što ce netko misliti o mojim postupcima, ali ja to više NECU trpjeti, ni od Stinkya ni od bilo koga drugog. Predugo mi je muka na s.com, umjesto da tu i dalje uživam, kao na pocetku. Pa, ili cu se ponovo dobro osjecati na njemu, ili ga više nece biti.
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:36:29
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
Meni je samo drago da je ovo konacno zavrseno. Sad covek moze da se okrene novim stvarima. Dosta prezvakavanja. Bravo za System Comics.
Doci ceš i ti na red, ne brini. Ovakvo licemjerje u životu nisam vidio.
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:45:26
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quote: Originally posted by kiky
Stinky se fino raspisao na forumu i komentarima recenzija onih par dana što sam bio sasvim neopravdano izbacen sa foruma, te sam spremno docekao dan svoga povratka kako bi mu, po obicaju, oponirao, replicirao ili barem nadopunio što je napisao... ali eto moj povratak se poklopio sa njegovim neopravdanim i nepravednim izbacivanjem... i sad njega nema.
I šta sad da ja radim na ovom forumu?
I naravno da se markos ne može ovako ponašati, jer ovakvi njegovi postupci ce biti to što ce rastjerati ljude sa ovog foruma, a ne "svakojaki stinkyji". Ovako nastupati ne birajuci rijeci, jer to može, jer je ovdje jaci, jer je moderator... ma uopce ne treba druga strana (tj. stinky ili bilo tko drugi) ostati dužna, ili hladna na ovake izjave i neka uzvrati jednako, pa i jace. I neka je uzvratio kako je uzvratio, neka je...
Joj, zamisli - rastjerat cu ljude s foruma. Pa to je strašno. Što cu onda? Kao da ja imam neke koristi od foruma, pa bi mi trebalo biti stalo do toga sto ce biti s njim?
I, ako nemas tu sto raditi, zasto onda dolazis?
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Vjeko1980
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 13:56:01
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Cemu toliko gorcine i žuci?!?! Pazi, kad je meni ovo vec muka gledat i slušat, koji stvarno volim dobar fajt i prepirku, onda je definitivno "tu mac".. I Markos uopce ne kužim taj stav: "Boli me brige i puca mi kurac za sve", pa sajt ima nekoliko tisuca clanova!!!! Ako je vec tebi svejedno zbog tebe samog, ne može ti biti svejedno zbog ekipe koja se tu okuplja dugi niz godina..
Bolje imat pet dobrih prijatelja nego jednog neprijatelja |
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kiky
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 15:18:44
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
I, ako nemas tu sto raditi, zasto onda dolazis?
Pa... ne znam... valjda zbog stripa...
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Raspucin
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Barbados
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 15:46:05
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Ovu sam temu trebao da nazovem "Stvarno poslednji Stinkijev". Ode dobri Stinki kao da ga nije ni bilo.
Pogledajte na Youtube-u, kako Džoni u Prištini, sam sa akusticnom gitarom svira Proljece 13-tog u decembru. |
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ken2
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 17:20:37
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dajte ljudi malo lakše stinky je izbacen i nema šanse da se vrati, on je meni jako drag, s njim se nikada nisam zakacio, a niti s bilo kime drugim, tako da nemam pojma kako je to kad te neko stalno provocira, a on je naprosto uživao provocirat markosa, to mu je bila favorite games, koju je sad izgubio, ili dobio, zavisi kako se gleda |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 17:40:37
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Ajme, slabo virkam na forum, dan, dva, i desi se svašta... Dugogodišnji fajt završio stinkijevom prisilnom disconnect kapitulacijom. Istina, pale su teške rijeci, nježne rijeci, tepanja, a šta, pa i jubavnici ponekad šapnu jedan drugome jebi se.
Markose, barem ti nisi zlopamtilo, tako da ako padne kakva prilika, mislim da bi opet pustio stinkyja unutra. Mada mislim da bi stinkyiju više koristilo da je spikao o stripovima, ili pisao recenzije, nego lupao cekicem "pravde" po glavama. Malo ce ih ostat koji zaista komentiraju stripove, odnosno sadržaj, ne dizajn...
Ja se znam, al nesmem nikaj reci, jooj... HC! je zakon, živijo HC! Žene vicu, Dee, tebe seksi trebam... Ajoooj! |
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STOSIC
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 18:15:39
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jebote ovdje covjek ne pregleda forum par dana i odmah lete glave! WTF?! markos je stinkyja potjerao za stalno? procitao sa malo topik i cini mi se da nije zaslužio, bar ne ovaj put. uostalom markos ti i on ste se stalno tako 'podjebavali' pa sam mislio da je to nešto sasvim normalno medu vama...
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marsuna
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 19:52:50
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Kao da ja imam neke koristi od foruma, pa bi mi trebalo biti stalo do toga sto ce biti s njim?
Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
ovo je prezalosna izjava. govoreci uopsteno, ako ti je stalo samo do stvari od kojih u zivotu mozes da imas koristi, stvarno bi bilo dobro da ugasis sve ovo. nadam se samo da je nespretno sroceno... |
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 20:26:47
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Ne bi trebalo gasiti sajt. Kako neki navode tako je i Zagor radio sa ZWS. Svako malo je gasio sajt, kako je bio raspolozen. To je bilo djetinjasto ponasanje za jednog ozbiljnog i odraslog covjeka. Ako se ne varam ovaj sajt je postavljen, izmedju ostalog, i njemu usprkos (premda to naravno nije bio glavni razlog). |
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