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lwood
Advanced Member
Colombia
47014 Posts
Member since 09/12/2005 |
 Posted - 09/09/2007 : 22:27:38
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Originally posted by William_Wallace
U skole treba ubaciti Ken Parkera!
potpuno podržavan takve ideje  |
depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala kojeg financira stari i koji sa skoro 50 godina nema ni žene ni posla.Pa naravno da je ljut na sve, a narocito na one koji su uspješni.
Jbga Lwoode nisam ti ja kriv kaj nisi uspio u životu |
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jurica
Senior Member
1799 Posts
Member since 19/02/2003 |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 10:35:34
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Originally posted by BOC
ma koji eliot, ezra pound i auden ga smažu za predjelo.
And Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Fighting in the captain's tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
(Dylan)
enivej, izbor izmedju Pounda (pa i Audena) i Eliota svodi se na to volis li ili ne poeziju. meni su svi "poetski" trenuci kod Eliota bezveze i nezanimljivi jer uopce ne volim poeziju. iz istog razloga, paradoksalno, bezveze su mi i njegove drame. ono zbog cega mi je on jedan od najdrazih pisaca uopce moglo bi se svesti na Pustu zemlju, Starost, Suplje ljude, Ljubavnu pjesmu Alfreda J. Prufrocka i jos poneku pjesmu u kojoj ignorira poetiku i uglavnom se igra simbolizmom.
btw. nije mi poznato kako je Pusta zemlja izgledala prije nego je se dohvatio Pound, ali pretpostavljam da ju je samo pokvario (narocito jer sam negdje procitao da je nakon njegovih intervencija postala poeticnija - bah!) |
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BOC
Advanced Member
Fiji
3587 Posts
Member since 01/12/2002 |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 17:30:33
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eto ti ga na, a ja baš volim poeziju. zapravo mi ni pound nije neka sreca, al audena volim.
inace post je bio cista provokacija. |
i am the tide the rise and the fall the reality soldier the laugh child one of the many the flame child |
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dzuka
Junior Member
Croatia
470 Posts
Member since 12/01/2006 |
Posted - 23/09/2007 : 14:21:16
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hm, u americi, zemlji slobodnih, mozes i bez posla ostat zbog davanja djeci stripove na citanje...>:)
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/09/daniel_clowes_pornographer.html
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Daniel Clowes, Pornographer?
Courtesy of Pantheon
Comics blogs are up in arms today about the forced resignation of Connecticut high-school English teacher Nate Fisher, who lost his job when he gave a freshman student a copy of Daniel Clowes's comic book Eightball. The student's parents complained to school administrators, who declared the book — which is not on a school reading list and was given to the student as make-up reading for a summer reading assignment — "inappropriate" and suspended the teacher. After a week, he resigned.
Sadly, but not surprisingly, the girl is being bombarded with verbal abuse from her peers, as apparently the teacher was a popular one. (This makes sense; if some teacher had handed a Daniel Clowes comic to us in high school, we would have thought he was the coolest person on earth.) The girl's father sounds like a real blowhard in the article; he demands more apologies from the school district, declares "I personally don’t ever want him teaching again," and calls the book "borderline pornography."
Throughout the article, the guy repeatedly acts like the teacher gave his poor daughter a copy of Hustler. Having read the comic, which was later included in Clowes's Pantheon-published graphic novel, Ice Haven, we can say that calling this comic book "borderline pornography" is hilarious. Dude, Gossip Girl is borderline pornography. This is an extremely non-salacious art comic by a guy whose work is so tame these days he's currently the Times magazine's cartoonist of choice.
As Heidi MacDonald points out on the Beat, at some point this same thing is going to happen with sexually explicit "boys' love" yaoi manga, and God help the comic-book world when it does.
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jurica
Senior Member
1799 Posts
Member since 19/02/2003 |
Posted - 24/09/2007 : 11:13:04
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to mi je super, jer je tata ocito ipak uzeo strip u ruke i prelistao ga.
zamislite tek da je PROCITAO nesto od knjizevnosti s popisa lektire (dobro, to je naravno tesko, jer za to je potrebno znati skoro cijelu abecedu - a taj dragi "tatica" mi ne zvuci kao netko tko bi rukovao s bas tako sirokim obrazovanjem)...
dobro, ne znam tocno sto je na popisima lektire u americkim skolama, ali na svakoj stranici Bozanske komedije ima vise "spornih" elemenata nego u cijelom Ice Havenu (jednom od najimpresivnijih stripova zadnjih godina, po mom misljenju).
enivej, sto bi tek bilo da tate znaju citati pa da pronadju kod svoje djece Sabbath's Theater Philipa Rotha (jednog od cetiti neosporiva velikana moderne knjizevnosti u Americi - to se bar svi slazu), ili da imaju dovoljno obrazovanja pa da u pjesmici Hallelujah koja se pojavljuje usred crtica Shrek prepoznaju u stihovima:
"i remember when i moved in you
and the holy dove was moving too
and every single breath that we drew was
hallelujah"
eksplicitni opis seksa :-) |
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