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Malicius
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Germany
2380 Posts
Member since 21/09/2004 |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 20:29:50
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ili "Zagor u meno-pauzi" |
"Don't pick a fight, but if you find yourself in one, i suggest you make damn sure you win."
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sawitch
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Serbia
40690 Posts
Member since 17/11/2007 |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 20:30:56
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
ja bi stavija npr. "kad Zagor popizdi" 
A u sledecem broju "bice sranja" :))))) |
Patricia hic mea totus mundus est |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 21:06:37
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quote: Originally posted by sawitch
quote: Originally posted by lwood
ja bi stavija npr. "kad Zagor popizdi" 
A u sledecem broju "bice sranja" :)))))
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Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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TraX
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
451 Posts
Member since 15/05/2006 |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 22:17:57
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ccc cuj "fantast chico"!!!!! sta je to?? neki novi fant zacin?? nemogu da vjerujem. pa valjda ima neko osim prevoditelja/lektora da se pita sta majka mu stara!!??!! kako se ovo moglo dopustiti??? |
nemam potpis! |
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 22:38:36
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pa vidis da nije nikog briga. nas koji se cudimo i negodujemo smatraju cudacima. nekima je ovo cak i odlicno... |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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Spock
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
7830 Posts
Member since 26/12/2006 |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 23:34:42
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Ponovno procitao nakon desetak godina i opet odlicno, vrhunski. Najbolji Chicin specijal!! Ima dosta odlicnog humora i simpaticnih dosjetki i gegova. Sve desetke!! Ovo bi cak i deklariranom mrzitelju našeg simpaticnog debeljka (Wiskey) bilo dobro. Još da nije nesretnog naslova. |
Kamo god da kreneš, uvijek si tu. |
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Porter
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Sweden
5874 Posts
Member since 01/08/2002 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 00:58:07
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Sto se tice prevoda naslovnica od Zagora,mislim da Ludens ima parolu da promjeni naslov u odnosu na Dnevnik,sto u vecini slucajeva kad se to uradi zvuci pomalo cudno. ,,Kad Zagor pobjesni,, Kad procitam ovaj prevod onda dobijem sliku Zagora kao neuravnotezene osobe koja je dobila napad bijesa i urlice,razbija,pali i zari. ,,Zagorov bijes,,ovo djeluje logicniji i topliji prevod za usi. Ovdje vidim Zagora kao duboko uvrijedjenu osobu,kojoj su neki odrpanci nanijeli neku bol i on to lagano sportski ispravlja uz podrsku i simpatije citatelja.
Bolje bi bilo osobama koje prevode ove stripove da se ne osvrcu na Dnevnik vec da prevode da ne para ovoliko usi. |
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Edited by - Porter on 05/02/2008 01:00:21 |
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dveribad
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Croatia
2502 Posts
Member since 18/07/2005 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 01:14:07
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Sto se tice prevoda naslovnica od Zagora,mislim da Ludens ima parolu da promjeni naslov u odnosu na Dnevnik,sto u vecini slucajeva kad se to uradi zvuci pomalo cudno. ,,Kad Zagor pobjesni,, Kad procitam ovaj prevod onda dobijem sliku Zagora kao neuravnotezene osobe koja je dobila napad bijesa i urlice,razbija,pali i zari. ,,Zagorov bijes,,ovo djeluje logicniji i topliji prevod za usi. Ovdje vidim Zagora kao duboko uvrijedjenu osobu,kojoj su neki odrpanci nanijeli neku bol i on to lagano sportski ispravlja uz podrsku i simpatije citatelja.
Bolje bi bilo osobama koje prevode ove stripove da se ne osvrcu na Dnevnik vec da prevode da ne para ovoliko usi.
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sawitch
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Serbia
40690 Posts
Member since 17/11/2007 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 04:40:34
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Sto se tice prevoda naslovnica od Zagora,mislim da Ludens ima parolu da promjeni naslov u odnosu na Dnevnik,sto u vecini slucajeva kad se to uradi zvuci pomalo cudno. ,,Kad Zagor pobjesni,, Kad procitam ovaj prevod onda dobijem sliku Zagora kao neuravnotezene osobe koja je dobila napad bijesa i urlice,razbija,pali i zari. ,,Zagorov bijes,,ovo djeluje logicniji i topliji prevod za usi. Ovdje vidim Zagora kao duboko uvrijedjenu osobu,kojoj su neki odrpanci nanijeli neku bol i on to lagano sportski ispravlja uz podrsku i simpatije citatelja.
Bolje bi bilo osobama koje prevode ove stripove da se ne osvrcu na Dnevnik vec da prevode da ne para ovoliko usi.
Kakvo carsko objasnjenje!!! Svaka cast!!! |
Patricia hic mea totus mundus est |
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morrison
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Serbia
5142 Posts
Member since 29/01/2008 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 13:33:24
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Sto se tice prevoda naslovnica od Zagora,mislim da Ludens ima parolu da promjeni naslov u odnosu na Dnevnik,sto u vecini slucajeva kad se to uradi zvuci pomalo cudno. ,,Kad Zagor pobjesni,, Kad procitam ovaj prevod onda dobijem sliku Zagora kao neuravnotezene osobe koja je dobila napad bijesa i urlice,razbija,pali i zari. ,,Zagorov bijes,,ovo djeluje logicniji i topliji prevod za usi. Ovdje vidim Zagora kao duboko uvrijedjenu osobu,kojoj su neki odrpanci nanijeli neku bol i on to lagano sportski ispravlja uz podrsku i simpatije citatelja.
Bolje bi bilo osobama koje prevode ove stripove da se ne osvrcu na Dnevnik vec da prevode da ne para ovoliko usi.
Tako je. Hvala lepo! |
There ain't no grave gonna hold my body down. |
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angeliczg
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Croatia
200 Posts
Member since 09/07/2002 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 13:40:27
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evo par domišljatosti: "Bijesni Zagor" (ono kao ugrizao ga je vuk u "Vukodlaku" pa je pobjesnio "Bijes Zagora" - kao da je taj bijes živo bice, entitet bez kontrole
a što se tice Chice - krenimo od osnovnog problema - gospodin se vec godinama zove razlicito - Cico, Ciko, Chico - pa ne znam šta je problem igre rijeci sa Fantastico krenimo redom: Fanta - st- ico -> Fanta - c - ico Fantast-icno -> Fantast - chico -> Fanta - st - Chico meni je recimo sve jasno - Bernard je ustvari htio dati posvetu ST-u, tj gradu koji se prvi odvažio štampati Zagora iznova, pa je na taj nacin naznacio Split radi se o klasicnoj posveti gdje se ujedno zahvalio i srpskom prijevodu - Fanta ST Ciko - pa je na taj nacin hommage zatvoren a svi koji znamo o cemu se radi, ionako cemo ga zvati Ludensov Fanta Ciko, i boli nas za prijevode |
Edited by - angeliczg on 05/02/2008 13:41:27 |
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 13:51:28
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Znaci, prevoditeljica je cak imala dobre namjere... Potrudila se shvatiti znacenje naslova. Samo što to nije uklopila u hrvatsko/srpsko/slovensko/slavenski jezik. Što onda sa Dnevnikovim naslovom Fanta Ciko? Kako to funkcionira? Isto ko i Fantast.
Ja predlažem da se u sljedecem reizdanju nazove "SF Chico". eto. |
“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one." |
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supermark
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Croatia
29625 Posts
Member since 06/02/2007 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 13:59:54
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ma fantast chico je sasvim dobar naziv, isprva izgleda nezgrapno, ali, koko je angeliczg lijepo objasnio, sve ima smisla a plus je sto je najvjernije originalu |
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angeliczg
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Croatia
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sawitch
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Serbia
40690 Posts
Member since 17/11/2007 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 14:16:09
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Jos treba da resavam rebuse kod naslova... Pa najbolje da stave osmosmerku i da sami trazimo naslov... ais... Uzas... Sto kaze DeeCay "SF Chico" i to je to... A sto se tice Zagora i naslova, pa to je prica za sebe... "Zagor prs'o", treba biti samo mastovit... I moze se i takav naslov pojaviti... Ili kad dodje ona epizoda sa eksplozivom az-119, i onom oklopnjacom, treba dati naziv "Zagor krsi belaj-brod"... Manite ga... Treba naci nekog malo strucnijeg... |
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supermark
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Croatia
29625 Posts
Member since 06/02/2007 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 14:23:21
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quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
a da ocekujem jednom i naslov "Zagor je sad fakat bijesan"
ili: "sad bu nekom Zagor picku zdrapal"  |
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morrison
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Serbia
5142 Posts
Member since 29/01/2008 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 18:19:34
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quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
evo par domišljatosti: "Bijesni Zagor" (ono kao ugrizao ga je vuk u "Vukodlaku" pa je pobjesnio "Bijes Zagora" - kao da je taj bijes živo bice, entitet bez kontrole
a što se tice Chice - krenimo od osnovnog problema - gospodin se vec godinama zove razlicito - Cico, Ciko, Chico - pa ne znam šta je problem igre rijeci sa Fantastico krenimo redom: Fanta - st- ico -> Fanta - c - ico Fantast-icno -> Fantast - chico -> Fanta - st - Chico meni je recimo sve jasno - Bernard je ustvari htio dati posvetu ST-u, tj gradu koji se prvi odvažio štampati Zagora iznova, pa je na taj nacin naznacio Split radi se o klasicnoj posveti gdje se ujedno zahvalio i srpskom prijevodu - Fanta ST Ciko - pa je na taj nacin hommage zatvoren a svi koji znamo o cemu se radi, ionako cemo ga zvati Ludensov Fanta Ciko, i boli nas za prijevode
Mozda je u pitanju skracenica od "Fantasticni", tj. nije moglo stati na naslovnicu. Skratili su strip za 1 cm, pa im se to tek sad obilo o glavu...   |
There ain't no grave gonna hold my body down. |
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Pavel01
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Croatia
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d.r.p
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1598 Posts
Member since 09/08/2007 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 21:33:03
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Na stranu naziv da li je dobar ili ne,stripovi sa Cikom kao glavnim likom su mi ostali u dragom sjecanju i kupicu ih obavezno kad stignu u BL.Mislim da je Fanta(st) Ciko zadnji od tandema Nolita-Feri i da je kasnije kvalitet opao.Topla preporuka |
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Pavel01
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Croatia
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 22:28:11
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
Znaci, prevoditeljica je cak imala dobre namjere... Potrudila se shvatiti znacenje naslova. Samo što to nije uklopila u hrvatsko/srpsko/slovensko/slavenski jezik. Što onda sa Dnevnikovim naslovom Fanta Ciko? Kako to funkcionira? Isto ko i Fantast.
Ja predlažem da se u sljedecem reizdanju nazove "SF Chico". eto.
kakav bezobrazluk! pa nisam li ja nekoliko postova iznad predlozio to ili chico u svemiru, poput muppeta?
  fanta sasvim lepo funkcionise. jer fanta ne znaci nista (osim soka), a moze znaciti svasta. fantast je pak rijec koja s ovim nema veze, kako rekoh... |
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 22:29:48
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quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
quote: Originally posted by bacho
Da malo i ja dam doprinos filozofiranju oko imena Fanta(st)Chico. Mislim da je prijevod pogoden. ...
ko prstom u dupe. kao i uvjek.
zar mislis da nekima to nije zgoditak?   |
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sonor
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Vatican City
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 23:00:54
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by Pavel01
quote: Originally posted by bacho
Da malo i ja dam doprinos filozofiranju oko imena Fanta(st)Chico. Mislim da je prijevod pogoden. ...
ko prstom u dupe. kao i uvjek.
zar mislis da nekima to nije zgoditak?  
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There's a time to live and a time to die When it's time to meet the maker! There's a time to live but isn't it strange That as soon as you're born you're dying!
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King Warrior
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22346 Posts
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Posted - 06/02/2008 : 00:43:59
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Cuj Fantast Chico??? A ja mislio to neka zajebancija.Pa ako je Ludens htjeo da udari kontru Dnevniku bolje da su ga nazvali "Pepsi Chico",bilo bi logicnije |
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