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Djole
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 03:44:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Jel cita ovde neko nesto iz novije americke produkcije? Znaci, ne mislim na stare Konane, Srebrne letace, pa cak ni na Spajdije koje je objavljivala SD. Kraj devedesetih, pocetak nultih, Lucifer, 100 bullets, Rising Stars, Transmetropilitan, nesto iz Mooreove ABC? Jeste US strip pun djubreta, ali hajde da proberemo sta valja i popricamo o tome...

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---dp---
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Ja, na zalost, nisam ni cio nista o svemu tome (moguce je da imam nesto od toga na HDD-u u skeniranoj formu, skinuto sa streamload-a). Steta, ali potrudicu se da nesto nabavim, nadam se da ce se ovde povesti interesantan razgovor koji ce me naterati da se malo pokrenem i u tom pravcu
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glistofil
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 07:59:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send glistofil a Private Message
ja sam samo sin city citao, ali vjerojatno cu nabavit i drugih stvari

Live long and prosper!
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rommel
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 10:36:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
mene su watchmeni odusevili - odlican dvojac alan moore / dave gibbons i novi pogled na superheroje, rezignirane i umorne od svega, okruzene moralnim rasapom i sigurnim propadanjem svega sto su oni nekada olicavali - a zaplet pocinje istragom oko ubojstva ubijena superheroja - dakle nema vise nepogresivosti i kod njih....izvrsno...!!!!

I Realised Fear One Morning,
To The Blare Of The Fox Hunters Sound,
When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!
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Markos
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 11:21:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Meni je VJ posudio Wathcmene koje se spremam procitati, super su mi Macanov/Eddyjev Grendel, te Eddyjev Human Target. Nadalje, narucio sam 4 TPB 100Bullets u MC pa cemo vidjeti kako je to. Sudeci po Rissovom crtezu iz Video Noir, to bi moglo biti jako dobro. Tu je i Calvin & Hobbes, odlican odlican! Sandmani me zanimaju ali nikako da se prislim da to kupim jer kad vidim koliko tu ima teksta i kako je lose crtano, ne da mi se bas. Pogotovo kad cujem sve te price oko toga kako je to serijal koji se treba pazljivo iscitavati nekoliko puta...uh... Parlov mi je preporucio Enigmu i Elektra Assasin pa cu i to procitati... Ajmo sada, ako ima tko jos kakve dobre preporuke (osim Sin City, za to znam:-) ) samo dajte...

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Witchblade
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 11:43:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Witchblade a Private Message
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Tom Strong, Promethea, stripovi Joea Sacca, JLA...

"These memories, too, are bound to die
So our dreams will have to serve us
Tomorrow may be the day that our love betrays us"
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Maximuss
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 12:25:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Maximuss's Homepage  Send Maximuss a Private Message
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cbarks
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 12:43:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send cbarks a Private Message
I naravno nemoj zaboraviti Preachera.Jedna stvar koje još nisam zasledio na ovom forumu a meni je SUUPER su Freak Brothersi od Gilbert Sheltona, najbolje je to nabaviti u cetiri albuma zašlo kod Knockabout-a.
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-Dylan Dog-
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Samo Sin City
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Djole
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 14:30:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Ajmo redom...

quote:
Originally posted by glistofil

ja sam samo sin city citao, ali vjerojatno cu nabavit i drugih stvari


Sin City mi se sa tacke gledista price nikada nije nesto posebno dopadao. Jeste, savrseno skida film noir, ali nesto nikada nisam bio fan film noira. E sad, s graficke tacke, ono je genijalno, odnos crnog i belog, kadriranje, dizajn likova... sve je fantasticno... ali dosadi, posle nekoliko epizoda. A posto je ovaj zadnji, To Hell and back u boji, mislim da se Miller tu istrosio.

quote:
Originally posted by rommel

mene su watchmeni odusevili - odlican dvojac alan moore / dave gibbons i novi pogled na superheroje, rezignirane i umorne od svega, okruzene moralnim rasapom i sigurnim propadanjem svega sto su oni nekada olicavali - a zaplet pocinje istragom oko ubojstva ubijena superheroja - dakle nema vise nepogresivosti i kod njih....izvrsno...!!!!


Watchmen su mnogo vise od prikazivanja nesavrsenosti super-heroja. "Who watches The Watchmen?" se, barem ja tako kontam, odnosi i na to da niko ne posmatra i kontrolise Boga, ili barem univerzum... univerzum koji je jedna surova velika sala, kao sto bi The Comedian rekao, a onaj smajli na Marsu potvrdio... univerzum koji nema apsolutno nikakvog smisla, sudeci po onom Rorshahovom monologu (kome nije pruzena nikakva optimisticka protivteza)... I naravno, tu je najgenijalniji momenat u stripovima potencijalno ikada, kada Ozymandias kaze "I did it thirty minutes ago..."
Rasprava oko toga da li je bolji The Dark knight returns ili Watchmen ce uvek postojati, ali po meni Watchmen sije matorog Batmana za tri duzine...

quote:
Originally posted by Markos

Sandmani me zanimaju ali nikako da se prislim da to kupim jer kad vidim koliko tu ima teksta i kako je lose crtano, ne da mi se bas. Pogotovo kad cujem sve te price oko toga kako je to serijal koji se treba pazljivo iscitavati nekoliko puta...uh... Parlov mi je preporucio Enigmu i Elektra Assasin pa cu i to procitati... Ajmo sada, ako ima tko jos kakve dobre preporuke (osim Sin City, za to znam:-) ) samo dajte...


Sandman u pocetku ima uzasne probleme sa crtacima i jos vece sa koloringom, a nije se bas ni Gaiman dobro snalazio. Nek prica ko sta hoce, ali prvi trejd, Preludes & Nocturnes je blagi uzas, dok je The Doll's House toliko hermeticki zatvoren da je tesko i naslutiti sta je piac hteo da kaze bez detaljne analize. No, posle toga... Dream Country ima odlicnu "Facade", Season of mists nije los, ali sve je to Moore vec rekao i obradio u Swamp Thingu, a Game of You je prilicno dobar, a onda idu remek dela Fables & Reflections, Brief Lives, Kindly ones i The Wake ( i Worlds' end, koji mi bas i nije nesto). Meni je favorit Kindly ones, gde se sve sklapa i koji ima odlican ultra stilizovani crtez Marka Hempbela... Inace, da treba vise puta da se cita, treba. Ja sam za sada pronasao tri niova price (licna tragedija Morpheusa, uopste prica o pricama i sukob muskog i zenskog principa prica), ali sam prilicno siguran da mi bezi jos jedan nivo... pa ako je jos neko citao, hajde da diskutujemo o tome.
Inace, od ostalih stvari ti preporucujem Mooreovu Swamp thing, sa manje texta i boljim crtezom... ili barem konzistentnijim. A i The Invisibles deluju obecavajuce, mada imam samo prva dva trejda... ali tu je tek crtez problematican (Jill Thompson je tako bezvezno odradila "Aracadiu" da je to bruka).

quote:
Originally posted by Witchblade

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Tom Strong, Promethea, stripovi Joea Sacca, JLA...


Odlican izbor!Meni je Liga fantasticna, od Toma Stronga imam samo prvi trejd i on je veoma dobar, ima lepih caka (genijalna osveta Paula Saveena!), ali ipak slabiji od Lige. Prometheu nisam citao, kakva je? U Borderlineu kazu da je smor, ali ja verujem u Alana..

Inace,sto se mene tice, nedavno sam imao Moore overload, jer sam nabavio pet trejdova Swamp Thinga (u pocetku malo sporo i ne nesto posebno, ali kada se uhoda...! The curse, sa povezivanjem likantropije, menstruacije i zenske potcinjenosti je NEVEROVATNO!!!), Ligu (odlicno, narocito ako covek voli da juri citate) i nesudjeni predlog za Twilight (da je DC pustio Moorea da ovo odradi, super - heroji nikada vise ne bi bili isti). Moore je zakon!

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Djole
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E da, Preacher. Ne znam, malo mi je izvikan. A i kraj, iako dobar anti klimaks, mi se ne dopada. Mislim, nemam nista protiv anti klimaksa, ali ne bas u finalu. Celu seriju smo ocekivali Armagedon, kad ono...
To po strani, odredjene epizode su vise nego genijalne, narocito u drugom trejdu sa onom bolesnom zurkom kod Jesusa de Saada i momentom kada Jesse konacno ustaje da rasturi Jodiea i svoju babu (nasao sam sebe kako NAVIJAM u to momentu!). Po meni, kod Preachera je zbir delova veci nego celina...

"Well dip me in the honey and throw me to the lesbians..."

Edited by - Djole on 03/02/2003 01:20:28
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---dp---
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Posted - 02/02/2003 : 16:12:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Preachera imam skeniranog pa cu bas njega za pocetak procitati
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Zox
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 01:29:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Zox's Homepage  Send Zox a Private Message
Dobro, na taj fazon imas Mooreov From Hell, poslije su napravili i film po tome, to je strava, to ne smijes propustiti.

A na neki malo vise underground smek, imas recimo Fingermana. Minimum Wage, zakon strip.


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Djole
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 01:37:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
From Hell je 35 $... nekada je mogao da se nadje i za manje pare, ali od kako je izsao film, nema sanse... tako da cekam da mu opet padne cena... a sto se filma tice, cekam da prvo procitam strip... :)
E sad, za taj malo vise underground smek, o cemu se radi u Minimal Wage? Ili u Box office poison? Slabo stojim sa tim, posto ni sa mainstreamom ne mogu da izadjem na kraj... ;)

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MAGIC
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ja sam za sada narucio sledece iz usa:
ronina,elektru,wounded man i imortal blade i lon wolfa
pa cemo da vidimo sta dalje

Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
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ChasNick
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Hellblazer je super...

I hate signatures!
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---dp---
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Hej, pa i njega imam na CD-u skeniranog... moram i to procitati
Magic, po kojim cenama ces to nabaviti i u kojem obimu? Mozda bih i ja nesto uzeo, ako je povoljno
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-Dylan Dog-
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Malo su skupi!
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Markos
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 10:41:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Dobro, znaci imam sta citati narednih 36 godina

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Aster
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Ja od americkih imam Phatoma,Aria-Angela(ovaj ima dosta dobar crtez!),Spirit of the Tao,Spawn,Black tide.A imao sam i Witchblada.
Nista posebno.Tanki su puni govnarskih reklama.A i story je dosta slab.
Od americkih mi se svidja StarWars od Dark Horse Comicsa.Dobar crtez,izvanredna prica i scenarij!Ne znam da li jos izlaze ovi u USA,al ovde kod nas StarWars je stigao do 50-og broja.

Evo nekoliko interesantnih linkova:
www.imagecomics.com
www.topcow.com
www.avaloncomics.com
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Maximuss
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 13:59:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Maximuss's Homepage  Send Maximuss a Private Message
A koliko tih Watchmena ima i posto su?

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cbarks
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quote:
Originally posted by Aster

Ja od americkih imam Phatoma,Aria-Angela(ovaj ima dosta dobar crtez!),Spirit of the Tao,Spawn,Black tide.A imao sam i Witchblada.
Nista posebno.Tanki su puni govnarskih reklama.A i story je dosta slab.
Od americkih mi se svidja StarWars od Dark Horse Comicsa.Dobar crtez,izvanredna prica i scenarij!Ne znam da li jos izlaze ovi u USA,al ovde kod nas StarWars je stigao do 50-og broja.

Evo nekoliko interesantnih linkova:
www.imagecomics.com
www.topcow.com
www.avaloncomics.com



Pa zato kupuj stvari samo u TPB- jima(trade paper back), gde imaš sabrane sve epizode posamicne serije i to bez ikakvih reklama kojih u normalnim izdanjima ima puno previše za naš ukus

Nobody went broke taking profits
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rommel
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 18:49:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MAGIC

ja sam za sada narucio sledece iz usa:
ronina,elektru,wounded man i imortal blade i lon wolfa
pa cemo da vidimo sta dalje

Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war



a da virus se širi i cini se da mu nema lijeka.
Zarazeni.

I Realised Fear One Morning,
To The Blare Of The Fox Hunters Sound,
When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!
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cerebus
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Moja preporuka: Y - The Last Man

U ljeto 2002 nepoznata bolest uništila je sve živo što u sebi nosi kromosom Y (kompletnu mušku populaciju, ukljucujuci i životinje muškog roda), osim jednog mladica i njegovog kucnog ljubimca (majmuncica).

Trenutno je umrlo 48% svetskog stanovništva ili oko 3 milijarde ljudi. Medu njima i 495 od 500 najbogatijih ljudi na svijetu, kao i 99% zemljosjednika.

Samo u SAD-u, umrlo je više od 95% vozaca kamiona, pilota, kapetana brodova, kao i 92% najtežih zlocinaca.

U svijetu je trenutno nestalo 99% mehanicara, elektricara i gradeveinarca, ali ipak je preživjelo 51% poljodjelki.

14 nacija, ukljucujuci Njemacku i Španjolsku imaju žene vojnike koje služe u kopnenoj vojsci. Australija, Norveška i Švedska su jedine zemlje u kojima žene služe na podmornicama.

U Izraelu, sve žene izmedu 18 i 26 godina prošle su obveznu vojnu obuku u trajanju od najmanje godinu i devet mjeseci. Prije katastrofe, najmanje tri Palestinska bombaša samoubojice su bile žene.

Širom svijeta najmanje 85% clanova vlada su mrtvi...kao i svi katolicki svecenici, Muslimanski imami i židovski rabini...

Za sada je izašlo 6 brojeva. Prvi 09.2002. Iskrene preporuke.
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rommel
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 18:54:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
nisam spominjao lone wolfa jer je topic bio americka produkcija a ovo je japanski strip - ali vrhunski po crtezu, sadrzaju...nesto najbolje sto sam citao u zadnje vrijeme....i to je najbolje filmovani strip od svih stripova do sada koji su imali srecu da budu ekranizirani...
preporucam ga svima, i to dark horse izdanje koje je identicno japanskim orginalima.....strip ima oko 90000 stranica, u 28 knjiga identicnih japanskim orginalima.....

http://www.mightyblowhole.com/lonewolf/background.htm

koga zanima vise neka pogleda ovaj link...

I Realised Fear One Morning,
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When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!
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MAGIC
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Lebanon
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Posted - 03/02/2003 : 19:17:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send MAGIC a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by rommel

quote:
Originally posted by MAGIC

ja sam za sada narucio sledece iz usa:
ronina,elektru,wounded man i imortal blade i lon wolfa
pa cemo da vidimo sta dalje

Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war



a da virus se širi i cini se da mu nema lijeka.
Zarazeni.

I Realised Fear One Morning,
To The Blare Of The Fox Hunters Sound,
When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!



pa naravno da se siri,ovi stripovi su sam vrh strip-umetnosti,a kada mi ih preporucuju ljudi koji su 1000puta vise procitali od mene i bolje znaju sta je najbolje,ko sam ja da im se suprostavljam

Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
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