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XIII
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Do sada je bilo raznoraznih topica o izdavanju stripova, o pravima, pirateriji, ali jedno je sigurno skoro svako od nas na forumu ima neke skenirane stripove (bio pristalica toga ili ne).
Mene interesuje da li je neko pokušao da prevodi skenirane stripove.
Ocigledno je da ima jer onda i nebi bilo nekih Bonelijevih stripova na našem jeziku, ali u kom programu je obradivao skenove.
Naime, smatrao sam da je to najlakši deo: ubaciti tekst koji je preveden u baloncice. Dovoljno je samo u Photoshopu obrisati postojeci tekst i ubaciti nov, a onda sam se razocarao kada sam shvatio da je u photoshopu nemoguce otkucati slova poput š,c,c,ž,d jer nema takvih fontova.
Onda i u drugim programima kada sam koristio fontove koje sam skidao sa mreže a namenjeni su stripovima nisam mogao da otkucam navedena slova.
Kakva su vasa iskustva o tome?
I da li uopšte postoji neko koga interesuje nesto slicno?
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Djole
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 20:29:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Ja sam se interesovao za to pre nekih godinu dana, i postigao pristojne rezultate u Adobeovom In Designu... Proceprkacu malo po svojim linkovima, pa cu postaviti ovde neki korsitan.

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seinfeld
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 20:37:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
zar nije ch,sh i sl. nesto kao ALT+XXX (XXX=trocifreni broj)?

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zeljko
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 20:50:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
sve se može uraditi u Paintu

Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.
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Dado
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 21:08:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dado a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

sve se može uraditi u Paintu

Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.


Nisam se nikad bavio takvim stvarima kao sto je upisivanje teksta,
ali evo Zeljko je rekao u paintu mozes pisati sve domace znakove.
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rommel
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 21:31:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by XIII


Do sada je bilo raznoraznih topica o izdavanju stripova, o pravima, pirateriji, ali jedno je sigurno skoro svako od nas na forumu ima neke skenirane stripove (bio pristalica toga ili ne).
Mene interesuje da li je neko pokušao da prevodi skenirane stripove.
Ocigledno je da ima jer onda i nebi bilo nekih Bonelijevih stripova na našem jeziku, ali u kom programu je obradivao skenove.
Naime, smatrao sam da je to najlakši deo: ubaciti tekst koji je preveden u baloncice. Dovoljno je samo u Photoshopu obrisati postojeci tekst i ubaciti nov, a onda sam se razocarao kada sam shvatio da je u photoshopu nemoguce otkucati slova poput š,c,c,ž,d jer nema takvih fontova.
Onda i u drugim programima kada sam koristio fontove koje sam skidao sa mreže a namenjeni su stripovima nisam mogao da otkucam navedena slova.
Kakva su vasa iskustva o tome?
I da li uopšte postoji neko koga interesuje nesto slicno?



ali imas nase znakove i u photoshopu...sad sam provjerio bookman old style, arial, itc garmond, ali nemaju sv kao npr. courier...mene zanima koju velicinu uzmete da vam to stane u oblacic...?


I Realised Fear One Morning,
To The Blare Of The Fox Hunters Sound,
When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!

Edited by - rommel on 05/05/2003 21:32:28
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---dp---
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 22:20:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Kao prvo, nije tacno da nema nasih znakova u Photoshopu, jer taj program, kao i bilo koji drugi, ravnopravno koristi bilo koji font koji je deo Windowsa. Konacno, zasto bi to ukucavao tekst u Photoshopu kad je to mnogo lakse u CorelDraw-u?
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zeljko
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 22:30:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
zato što ljudi na ovim prostorima vole sistem

Što jednostavno kada može komplikovano!

naravno tu je i foliranje tipa ja znam raditi u corelu

mislim da se može raditi u corel foto shopu

Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.
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Djole
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Posted - 05/05/2003 : 22:49:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Ma ne moze komplikovanije od Adobe Illustratora, pa onda In Designa! :)
Mada sam tad i pravio baloncice, nisam samo upisivao text u njih.

"KIMOTA!"
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XIII
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 01:19:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
vidim ima razlicitih misljenja,
provericu ove fontove koje navodi rommel, ali sigurno je da photoshop ne koristi iste fontove kao windows, datoteke sa fontovima se nalaze u prgram files/common files/adobe/fonts,
a sto se tice painta slazem se da je moguce kucati nasa slova, ali je nezgodno to da ako stavis onaj okvir za tekst preko granica oblacica onda se on vidi i remeti sliku.
Kakvo je stanje sa corelom?
A dobro pitanje je i za velicinu fonta, on treba da bude ujednacen u svim oblacicima
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dd fan
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 01:30:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dd fan a Private Message
A izgleda da je problem i sa navodnicima. U KPu System Comicsa nigde ih nema, vec su svuda umesto njih stavljali slovo "o" sa kvacicom iznad, a isti je slucaj i sa Vanninijem samo sto je tamo koristen neki drugi znak, ne mogu sada da se setim koji. Bas cudno...

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XIII
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 01:52:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
da ali kako su onda stavljali tekst ljudi koji su prevodili npr. MisterNO 200 i slicno. Ajde ko ima stampariju uredu mozda (mada se nadam da nije tako)idu rucno ali putem racunara normalno bi bilo da mozes da napravis ovalni okvir tj. da ga obelezis i da samo kucas tekst a da margine prakticno budu ivice baloncica. A nameracio sam se da radim nesto za svoju dusu
BTW dd fan gde si ti
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---dp---
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 01:53:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Bas idiotski... amaterski
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XIII
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 02:04:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
sta
pokusaj ili kako je radjeno do sada
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rommel
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 08:39:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

zato što ljudi na ovim prostorima vole sistem

Što jednostavno kada može komplikovano!

naravno tu je i foliranje tipa ja znam raditi u corelu

mislim da se može raditi u corel foto shopu


Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.


corel nema photoshop - nego photo paint


I Realised Fear One Morning,
To The Blare Of The Fox Hunters Sound,
When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!
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rommel
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 08:43:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by XIII

vidim ima razlicitih misljenja,
provericu ove fontove koje navodi rommel, ali sigurno je da photoshop ne koristi iste fontove kao windows, datoteke sa fontovima se nalaze u prgram files/common files/adobe/fonts,
a sto se tice painta slazem se da je moguce kucati nasa slova, ali je nezgodno to da ako stavis onaj okvir za tekst preko granica oblacica onda se on vidi i remeti sliku.
Kakvo je stanje sa corelom?
A dobro pitanje je i za velicinu fonta, on treba da bude ujednacen u svim oblacicima


potpuno si u pravu ne koriste iste fontove....a ovo sto sam ti napisao vrijedi za photoshop 7, a mislim i za 6, za starije pojma nemam....inace i settings na keyboardu mora ti biti yu ali to si vjerojatno vec imas podeseno


I Realised Fear One Morning,
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When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!
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XIII
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 13:01:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
rommel proveri ponovo za ove fontove
ima fontova koji podrzavaju naša slova,ali uvek kada ih ispisuju ona se ispisuju u mislim times new roman tako da dolazi do toga da su ostala slova veca osim ovih, takodje dj moze da se napise i ovako, ali nikako nece da se napisu slova c i c, dok slova š i ž mogu da se napisu
inace proveravao sam i u PS 6 i 7
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 13:52:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Rorschach a Private Message
Za obradu skenova i cišcenje oblacica koristim Photoshop i tu je stvarno mocan, ali za upis teksta koristim neki programcic koji sam dobio uz skener a zove se Presto!Page Manager. Super je jednostavan i koristi sve fontove kao i win.
Piše sve naše znakove, ali normalno uz uvijet da font ima Central European Script. Pišeš s njim kao u wordu direktno u prazne oblacice.

U samom photoshopu mi je najmocniji "magnetic laso", i to kako za cišcenje oblacic, tako i za kopiranje cijelog teksta. Npr, nedavno sam skinuo sve albume Tugovanke za izgubljenim pustarama (La complainte des landes perdues) u coloru, ali na francuskom. Onda sam skenirao iste objavljene u stripoteci, izjednacio im dimenzije, pa s lasom okružio tekst na jednoj strani stripoteke, pa copy, pa paste na color sken i sad imam skenirane color albume na našem jeziku. To bi se moglo napraviti i s blueberyjem, xii-icom, largo winchem i ostalima, samo da je više vremena...
jedino mi je bezveze kopirati tekstove iz starih stripoteka zbog ružnog fonta...
Kad smo vec kod fontova, baš me zanima koje koristite za upis teksta ili bi voljeli koristiti - Comic Sans MS ili neki drugi...??


Edited by - Rorschach on 06/05/2003 13:57:21
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 15:31:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Nisat bez OCRa extended.. :)

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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 15:47:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
[quote]Originally posted by XIII

rommel proveri ponovo za ove fontove
ima fontova koji podrzavaju naša slova,ali uvek kada ih ispisuju ona se ispisuju u mislim times new roman tako da dolazi do toga da su ostala slova veca osim ovih, takodje dj moze da se napise i ovako, ali nikako nece da se napisu slova c i c, dok slova š i ž mogu da se napisu
inace proveravao sam i u PS 6 i 7


pisano u photoshopu 7



I Realised Fear One Morning,
To The Blare Of The Fox Hunters Sound,
When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!

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zeljko
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Posted - 06/05/2003 : 19:18:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by rommel

quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

zato što ljudi na ovim prostorima vole sistem

Što jednostavno kada može komplikovano!

naravno tu je i foliranje tipa ja znam raditi u corelu

mislim da se može raditi u corel foto shopu



corel nema photoshop - nego photo paint





da da malo sam se zeznuo

Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
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XIII
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Posted - 07/05/2003 : 01:33:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
moja greska (delimicna)
radi u 7 ali u 6 ne.
Sada ce nadam se biti lakse
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XIII
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Posted - 07/05/2003 : 01:39:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rorschach

. i sad imam skenirane color albume na našem jeziku. To bi se moglo napraviti i s blueberyjem, xii-icom, largo winchem i ostalima, samo da je više vremena...
jedino mi je bezveze kopirati tekstove iz starih stripoteka zbog ružnog fonta...
Kad smo vec kod fontova, baš me zanima koje koristite za upis teksta ili bi voljeli koristiti - Comic Sans MS ili neki drugi...??





pa ja sam sa DC++ skinuo Dan crnog sunca na poljskom i u boji pa me je navelo na ideju da to imam na nasem jeziku, zato su i poceli problemi oko ovog.
Najgore mi je bilo uklopiti tekst u oblacic. Ali videcemo valjda ce nesto ispasti.
Sto se tice fontova upravo sam nabavio neke silne fontove pa moram da ih imam odstampane kao sto je i romel gore naveo da bih mogao da se odlucim. Imam i neke fontove za strip ali su mi pomalo jadni tako da cu najverovatnije uzeti nesto drugo
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Posted - 08/05/2003 : 23:38:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
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Posted - 14/05/2003 : 13:35:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
a gde to i od kog
zato tebe nema na forumu dusmane

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