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Bila mi je devojka u Italiji, doduse turisticki i nije se setala po striparnicama... Naravno da sam je zamolio da mi donese svakog Zagora kojeg nadje na kioscima, nadajuci se da cu dobiti makar najnoviji redovni broj, pa majnoviji Ciko specijal, pa najnoviji Zagor specijal, eventualno poslednji maxi i Almannaco Avventura. Od svega toga, ona je jedva nasla, i to samo na jednom kiosku (na svim drugim kioscima mije nasla nijednog Zagora, dok je drugih Bonelijevih stripova bilo, sto znaci da se ne radi o tome da na tim kioscima nisu drzali Bonelijeve stripove), i to samo redovnu epizodu. Bila je u Veneciji, Padovi i Lidu. Ne mogu da verujem da se Zagorov tiraz tako brzo rasproda, ali fakat je tako.
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Markos
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 10:14:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Prije ce biti da je ona tebi rekla da nista nije nasla jer joj se nije dalo traziti.

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globinjo
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 10:24:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit globinjo's Homepage  Send globinjo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

Prije ce biti da je ona tebi rekla da nista nije nasla jer joj se nije dalo traziti.

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...i onda kad ne bude nas bilo,stripove ce citat' naše...
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 10:27:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
Ziva istina! A mozda je trebala gledati tamo gdje stoje djecije novine.

Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas?
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seinfeld
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 11:54:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Zagor se prodaje po jedno 70.000 mjesecno otprilike.

I'm the hand up Mona Lisa's skirt. I'm a surprise. They don't see me coming: that's what you're missing.
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fumettisti
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:14:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fumettisti an ICQ Message  Send fumettisti a Private Message
smijesno,seinfeld,ako je u novinama..il piccolo di trieste pisalo da se dylan dog prodaje u preko 250 tisuca kopija mjesecno,samo redovito izdanje..gdje su onda ukupno sa reprintima.zagor je popularniji u neku ruku pa je cifra o oko 70 tisuca malo presitna.
cini se da je DP na istom putu kao i DOK LESTER,ako neces svojom voljom ostaviti onda ce te ona natjerati.he he he

Edited by - fumettisti on 03/07/2003 12:15:59
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:20:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
Njemacka izdavacka kuca Carlsen Verlag je pisala da se od DD proda milion komada mjesecno, mada sumnjam u to. A ta cifra od 70.000 prodanih Zagora u Italiji je smijesna. Siguran sam da se vecina junaka proda u vise od 100.000 komada.

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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:21:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Sta ti mislis za zagora,jedno 150,000?
DD se prodaje u 250,000????
Ajmo pitat Bonellija he he he.

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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:23:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Tex se prodaje onda u 2,000,000 kopija mjesecno Sejo ;-)))))).

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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:26:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
zeznuo sam se kod Svaba pise da se mjesecno proda 500.000 DD.

Evo teksta:
Die Serie "Dylan Dog" ist mit 500.000 monatlich verkauften Exemplaren der Bestseller des italienischen Verlagshauses Bonelli. 1986 von Tiziano Sclavi geschaffen, bestreiten die unterschiedlichsten Zeichner die einzelnen Episoden. Qualitativ sind die Storys sowohl inhaltlich als auch zeichnerisch hochwertig und wir freuen uns die ersten zu sein, die Fumetti so original wie möglich in deutscher Sprache vorlegen.



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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 12:59:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dado a Private Message
Ma nema Sanse da se DD proda na pola milijuna primjeraka!
Mozda se prodavao tako kad je bio najbolji i kad su bile najbolje epizode...
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Te brojke su davno zastarjele i odavno vise nisu u opticaju. Zagor je na 60.000-70.000 otprilike. Iznad 100.000 su samo Dylan i Tex, a i oni su dosta pali u odnosu na najvece prodaje...

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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 13:27:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fumettisti

smijesno,seinfeld,70 tisuca malo presitna.




O yeah I rule ;-)))))!Vidis te novine lupnu cifre,moras to nekad i provjeriti ;-)).

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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 13:52:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
Novi podaci:

Mister NO se prodaje u fantasticnih 454.342 primjerka mjesecno!

Berni jesi tu?

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HAHAHAHA!:-)

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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 15:07:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit big joco's Homepage  Send big joco a Private Message
najprodavaniji u italiji je vec 15 godina Dylan Dog (na pocetku oko desete epizode bio je tiraž neverovatnih miljun kopija), medu bolje prodavanim je Tex, MM i nekako cetvrti je Zagor (ali tu brojimo samo Bonellijeve stripove). Ali tocnih brojeva neznam iz glave...
Na kioscima u Italliji koliko sam znam najviše možeš dobiti DD (sva izdanja), MM (isto tako) i Texa..u nekim kioscima možeš da dobiješ poslednjih 30 bojeva od texa! Ima tu i zagora, a nikako nisam primetio Magic Vento i slicne stripove...

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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 15:10:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
big joco nije tocno da je najprodavaniji DD. Pogotovo ne of broja 10 jer npr. broj 13 je bio kritican, uopce se nije znalo da li ce nastaviti sa izlazenjem ili ne, mislili su ga ugasiti, zato je taj broj i jedan od rijedjih. Bio je najprodavaniji neko kratko vrijeme (godinu - dvije) da bi se opet pao... Tex je definitivno najprodavaniji, tu nema govora, dok se MM i ZG jos dobro drze, ali i MV i Dampyr i Julia i Nathan se bolje prodaju od njih.

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70.000 primjeraka od Zagora!!!jeste vi normalni.italija ima 60 miliona stanovnika.
prodaju se bar 150.000 komada
de to pise da se prodaju 70.000 komada...dajte mi link
Tex najpopularni strip,hahaha

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Nisam znao da je Tex najpopularniji u Italiji.
Znade li netko kako tamo kotira Mister No, tj. u koliko se primjeraka prodaje?
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Markos je iznijeo najpreciznije podatke. Politika izdavacke kuce je ta da se tirazi ne objelodanjuju, ali neformalno se moze doci do cifara.
Ali, posto trazite link, evo jedan od prije par godina, u kojem jos nisu uvrsteni "novi" junaci Julia, Dampyr i Magico Vento. Napominjem da ove cifre danas mogu biti samo daleko NIZE, vise ni slucajno.
http://www.bvzm.com/elenco1.html
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Markos
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 16:24:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Nesto novije:

Tex 330.000
Dylan Dog 280.000
Julia 95.000
Dampyr 80.000
Nathan Never 70.000
Zagor, Magico Vento 65.000

Fin qua, tutti promossi. Le note + o - dolenti iniziano ora.

Martin Mystcre 55.000
Jonathan Steele 45.000
Mister No, Brendon,
Napoleone, Nick
Raider, Legs 35-40.000
Gregory Hunter sotto le 35.000

Fuori dalla Bonelli
Diabolik 120.000
Alan Ford 35.000

Da Mister No in giu, tutte fanno fatica a sopravvivere, soprattutto Legs e Gregory Hunter.

Chiudo con un dato assai triste: circa 20 anno or sono, chiudeva dopo soli 16 numeri una collana western edita da Bonelli, Judas.
Vendeva 35.000 copie. Le stesse che oggi garantiscono la sopravvivenza per 5 o 6 testate...

http://www.informacitta.it/texwiller/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=769&FORUM_ID=12&CAT_ID=5&Topic_Title=Tirature+Bonelli%2E&Forum_Title=I+fumetti


Nesto starije:

(Fonte non verificata, via Internet, ottobre 2000, dati del venduto
mensile, circa:) (Nepotvrdjen izvor sa interneta, oktobar 2000, okvirni podaci o mjesecnoj prodaji)
Tex: 300.000
Dylan Dog: 270.000
Nathan Never: 130.000
Dampyr: 95.000
Julia: 85.000
Magico Vento: 85.000
Brendon: 75.000 (a numero)
Martin Myst#232;re: 65.000
Zagor: 55.000
Gea: 55.000 (a numero)
Jonathan Steele: 45.000
Legs Weaver: 45.000
Mr. No: 40.000
Nick Raider: 40.000
Napoleone: 40.000 (a numero).

Lo so che i dati sono vecchi di quasi 2 anni, ma purtroppo non esistono dati
ufficiali.


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iznenadujuce male brojke, kad to podijeliš s brojem kioska u italiji ispadne ~1 kom/kiosku, nije ni cudo što ti cura nije ništa pronašla
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Posted - 03/07/2003 : 17:31:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Ma nije to bas tako. Od 55.000 prodanih, stampa se bar 80.000, a to ti je po 2 broja po kiosku.

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Ja mislim da joj se nije dalo tražiti.

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zanimljivo kako MNo slabo kotira,ali me razocaralo sto je NN pao

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zanimljive brojke
ali još zanimljivije bi bilo kad bi dobili i od Ludensa da usporedimo tu suprotnost od talijana, ipak je nama zagor nažalost "glavna faca"
nisam znao da je naš darkvudski dobrocinitelj tako nisko u Italiji
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