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big joco
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 11:35:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit big joco's Homepage  Send big joco a Private Message
Ako pratite strip junake, valjda ste primetili da je mesto dogadaja uvek u SAD (USA): Tex, MM, Zagor, Komandant Mark (OK on nija 100% - na granici sa Kanadom), Kit Teller, Kapetan Miki, Blek, Alan Ford, Nick Rajder, Ken Parker...
Dilan Dog se dogada u Engleskoj, a Mister No u Braziliji...aha i Asterix u Francuskoj....ostalo sve nekako u USA.

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jang
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 11:42:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jang a Private Message
kaj pa Tarzan, Konan, Valijant. BLEK je bil v Franciji, Angliji.
Mister No je bil v Afriki, Italiji, Aziji.
Samo za Avstralijo se mi zdi, da še nisem bral stripa. Si predstavljate Zagorja med kenguruji?
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ken2
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 12:09:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message
zanimljivo je i da stripovi s vestern tematikom uspijevaju uglavnom u europi, evo nrp. italija (ken parker, bil adams, zagor,magico vento, tex, miki, kit, pa iz razdoblja borbe za nezavisnost mark, blek), francuska (bluberi), švicarska? (badi longvej)... dok u americi vladaju superjunaci
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ken2
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 12:11:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message
e da, zna li netko nekog popularnog vestern junaka iz amerike, ja se ne mogu sjetit nijednog (ciji je cisko kid?)
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Maximuss
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 12:48:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Maximuss's Homepage  Send Maximuss a Private Message
Cisko je meksikanac, cini mi se!
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mcn
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 12:56:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>e da, zna li netko nekog popularnog vestern junaka iz amerike, ja se
>ne mogu sjetit nijednog (ciji je cisko kid?)

Danas popularnog ili opchenito? Western je imao svoje faze u USA (Kid Colt, Two Gun Kid etc), a zadnji popularni je bio, valjda Jonah Xex. U novinskom stripu si imaospomenutog Ciska, ali i stripove Stana Lyndea (Latigo i onaj prije njega, kojemu se sadne mogu sjetiti imena.)

Al' da, jebiga, Evropa ima americcki san, dok Ameri sanjaju o supersilnima...:)

mcn
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 14:58:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
quote by ken2:
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... dok u americi vladaju superjunaci
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pa kad je njihov prosecni citalac debil
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jgoran5
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 16:19:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit jgoran5's Homepage  Send jgoran5 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ---dp---

quote by ken2:
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... dok u americi vladaju superjunaci
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NE SLAŽEM SE BAŠ DA U AMERICI VLADAJU SAMO SUPER JUNACI.
KRENEŠ OD NEKIH DARK HORSE IZDANJ I VERTIGA KOJI JE U AMERICI SINONIM ZA STRIPOVE KOJI NEMAJU BAŠ VEZE SA SUPERJUNACIMA

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ken2
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 16:49:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message
ima li u europi koji superjunak, osim zagora?
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 16:57:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Zagor nije superjunak vec je junak koji je super :o)
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ken2
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 17:01:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message
pa tako sam i mislio
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Tomek
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 17:02:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tomek a Private Message
quote:
pa kad je njihov prosecni citalac debil

tako je
quote:
Originally posted by ---dp---

Zagor nije superjunak vec je junak koji je super :o)

zagor nije superjunak ali je radnja jednako debilna kao i kod americkih superjunaka

Hajduk živi vjecno

We want to see old Ireland free once more.
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Maximuss
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 17:06:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Maximuss's Homepage  Send Maximuss a Private Message
Ciko je superjunak!
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mcn
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 17:12:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>NE SLAŽEM SE BAŠ DA U AMERICI VLADAJU SAMO SUPER JUNACI.

Usporedi naklade, pa priccaj.

mcn
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jgoran5
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 19:42:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit jgoran5's Homepage  Send jgoran5 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mcn

>NE SLAŽEM SE BAŠ DA U AMERICI VLADAJU SAMO SUPER JUNACI.

Usporedi naklade, pa priccaj.

mcn


ma ne mislim na naklade,znam da superheroji idu u par stotina tisuca prodanih primjeraka,ali ne bazira se samo na njima,ima dosta raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a fenomenalno se prodaju

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Spectre
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 20:06:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Spectre a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ken2

e da, zna li netko nekog popularnog vestern junaka iz amerike, ja se ne mogu sjetit nijednog (ciji je cisko kid?)


Jonah Hex
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Scalphunter
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Turbo
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 20:13:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Turbo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by big joco

Ako pratite strip junake, valjda ste primetili da je mesto dogadaja uvek u SAD (USA): Tex, MM, Zagor, Komandant Mark (OK on nija 100% - na granici sa Kanadom), Kit Teller, Kapetan Miki, Blek, Alan Ford, Nick Rajder, Ken Parker...
Dilan Dog se dogada u Engleskoj, a Mister No u Braziliji...aha i Asterix u Francuskoj....ostalo sve nekako u USA.

Jeli se meni cini da strip scenaristi nemaju baš mnogo mašte i da bi se mogao Zagor dogadati i u Africi (ima tamo i više liljana:)

Vrlo pametna ideja, bilo bi fino procitati desetak epizoda o Zagoru koji se bori u Sjevernoj Africi.Tamo ima dosta bogastva pa bi pisci Zagora mogli izmisliti svasta.Pa mogo bi Zagor otici malo i u japan da se tuce protiv zloceastih nindja.

Ako hoces kupit stare ili nove stripove na engleskom ili francuskom jeziku kao Asterix,Spirou, Flash Gordon,Tintin,Lucky Luck,Gaston,Le secret de l'espadon ... samo mi posalji mail : zetina60@hotmail.com
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 21:04:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dsormaz1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jang
BLEK je bil v Franciji, Angliji.


Mjesto radnje Bleka nije Francuska i Engleska (zar se nisi zapitao otkud Indijanci u Bleku?), vec takoder Sjeverna Amerika i obraduje, kao i Komandant Mark, borbu 13. americkih kolonija za nezavisnost od britanske krune.
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mcn
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 21:22:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a fenomenalno >se prodaju

Kao na primjer?

mcn
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 21:28:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Ja sam se malo zezao, naravno... Inace, ne slusajte Tomeka, on je jedan izraziti Zagoromrzac (gori je cak i od Seje) :o)
Sto se tice mesta desavanja, jasno je da je USA najzgodnije mesto za smestanje radnji koje se odnose na vec razradjena scenarija i na vec provereno trziste koje konzumira takva scenarija. Kod navedenih primera uglavnom su u pitanju rat za nezavisnost, borba sa indijancima i slicni dogadjaji XVIII i XIX veka...
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Turbo
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 21:45:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Turbo a Private Message
ja mislim da su pisaci odabrali Ameriku jer su znali da djeca neznaju mnogo stvari o tom koninentu pa su mogli pisati stvari koje nisu tacne kao naprimjer lijani u darkvudskoj sumi.Ljudi i djeca vec imaju nekakvu ideju u glavi na sta lici europa i pisci nisu mogli izmisljeti neke stvari glupe jer bi ljudi vidili da pisci seru.Zato su izabrali Ameriku jer je taj kontinent slabo poznat bio u europi prije 40 godina.


Hmm moram isto tako priznati da su pisci stripova imali u glavi da sttvore Western strip.Pa nisu mogli u tom slucaju izabrat bolji kontinent od Amerike.Ja bi tesko podnio Texa kako jasi kroz Africku pustinju. :-)
Jednostavno Americki kontinent je imao scve sto su pisci trazili.Raja iz europe nezna dosta stvari o americi i istovremeno sanja o western filmovima i pricama.Zato su pisci izabrali western ideju jer su znali da u europi svi vole to.Ko nevoli filmove u kojima se bjelci tuku sa indijancima??? :-)

Ako hoces kupit stare ili nove stripove na engleskom ili francuskom jeziku kao Asterix,Spirou, Flash Gordon,Tintin,Lucky Luck,Gaston,Le secret de l'espadon ... samo mi posalji mail : zetina60@hotmail.com
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Zeus
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 21:53:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zeus a Private Message
Vecina stripova u Americi su smece. Otprilike 98% se moze kvalifikovati kao toalet papir, i to lose kvalitete. Amerikanci printaju nemoguca sranja, i to u velikom tirazu. Pa samo DC Comics izbaci preko 60 miliona primjeraka mjesecno. (statistika iz 1996 ja vjerujem). To je puno toalet papira!

Cuj ovo, neki dan sam vidio "Superman vs. Terminator" i pazite ovo ... "Tarzan vs. Predator" ...HAHAHAHA Cuj "Tarzan" protiv "Predatora"!? Nemaju kreatori i pisci vise ideja... sta je sljedece? "Mickey Mouse vs. Conan"??? hehe...

Vecina stripova su za djecu, time mislim sve ispod 9-10 godina starosti. Sve neki, super heroji u tjesnim gacama. Pfftt!

Boze me sacuvaj Americke kreativnosti!
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 22:53:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Pa imas sad i Zagor protiv predatora (izlazi 2. avgusta u Italiji)
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byoman
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 22:58:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send byoman a Private Message
Daj, dp, ne zajebavaj.:-)))
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:35:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
:o)
Fazon je u tome sto se ne zezam uopste byoman... Idi na SBE sajt i pogledaj opis i isecke iz stripa... :o)
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byoman
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:39:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send byoman a Private Message
SBE sajt mi nesto blokaje. Ne zeli uc i sl.
Daj stavi ovdje link na to.
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