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Turbo
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USA
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:43:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Turbo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zeus

Vecina stripova u Americi su smece. Otprilike 98% se moze kvalifikovati kao toalet papir, i to lose kvalitete. Amerikanci printaju nemoguca sranja, i to u velikom tirazu. Pa samo DC Comics izbaci preko 60 miliona primjeraka mjesecno. (statistika iz 1996 ja vjerujem). To je puno toalet papira!

Cuj ovo, neki dan sam vidio "Superman vs. Terminator" i pazite ovo ... "Tarzan vs. Predator" ...HAHAHAHA Cuj "Tarzan" protiv "Predatora"!? Nemaju kreatori i pisci vise ideja... sta je sljedece? "Mickey Mouse vs. Conan"??? hehe...

Vecina stripova su za djecu, time mislim sve ispod 9-10 godina starosti. Sve neki, super heroji u tjesnim gacama. Pfftt!

Boze me sacuvaj Americke kreativnosti!



pa nisu sranje, mozda za tebe jesu jer si stari pa ti je dosadno citati.I meni je sada dosadno citat NEKE americke stripove jer sam odrasto.Kad si dijete od 10 godina pa ovi americki stripovi super ti todju, sto je najbolje imas dosta izbora i stripovi izlaze jako redovno.Meni je jos Batman i Superman interesantni i kladim se da nisam jedini na forumu.

Ako hoces kupit stare ili nove stripove na engleskom ili francuskom jeziku kao Asterix,Spirou, Flash Gordon,Tintin,Lucky Luck,Gaston,Le secret de l'espadon ... samo mi posalji mail : zetina60@hotmail.com
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:45:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Evo:
http://www.zagor.it/auto/edicola?collana=10&collocazione=3
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:48:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Inace, stvarno je Ferri preterao sa Zagorovom levom rukom, a i pistolj u futroli je kao cackalica u odnosu na samo saku leve ruke, a da ne govorim o celoj ruci...
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byoman
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:52:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send byoman a Private Message
Jednostavno se ne zeli otvorit.
OVO JE NENORMALNO!!!!!
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---dp---
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:57:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Verovatno su linkovi od tvoga provajdera trenutno zakrceni prema serveru na kojem je SBE sajt... meni se isto to ponekad desava sa nekim sajtovima (na primer, cesto ne mogu otvoriti Brazilski sajt o stripovima)
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---dp---
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 00:00:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Evo ti topic na kojem smo bas nedavno diskutovali o tom novom Zagoru u Italiji:
http://www.stripovi.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9005
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Zeus
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 00:59:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zeus a Private Message
Turbo ima tu istine, ja sam malo stariji i ovi super-ultra-mega heroji u sarenim i tjesnim kostimima sa smijesnim maskama (kao nesto iz ranih sezdesetih) meni izgledaju ...kao glupost. Pravo da ti kazem i kad sam bio mladji nisam volio te ne-realisticne "super-heroje". Sto se tice Americkih stripova, besmislene strukture dogadjaja i smijesni kostimi nisu jedini problemi koji se mogu naci. Americki stripovi su vecinom samo 32 stranice! Plus svakojake reklame se mogu naci na svakoj trecoj strani (veoma dosadno!)...to su ogromne reklame koje uzimaju cak i po dvije citave stranice! I naravno, gotovo svi Americki stripovi su u boji. Kao sto sam rekao prije ...ekskluzivno za djecu!

dp? Zagor i Predator? To se moze prihvatiti, i cak zvuci interesantno Ali "Zagor vs. Terminator" ili "Zagor vs. Superman"?
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Turbo
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 01:05:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Turbo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zeus

Turbo ima tu istine, ja sam malo stariji i ovi super-ultra-mega heroji u sarenim i tjesnim kostimima sa smijesnim maskama (kao nesto iz ranih sezdesetih) meni izgledaju ...kao glupost. Pravo da ti kazem i kad sam bio mladji nisam volio te ne-realisticne "super-heroje". Sto se tice Americkih stripova, besmislene strukture dogadjaja i smijesni kostimi nisu jedini problemi koji se mogu naci. Americki stripovi su vecinom samo 32 stranice! Plus svakojake reklame se mogu naci na svakoj trecoj strani (veoma dosadno!)...to su ogromne reklame koje uzimaju cak i po dvije citave stranice! I naravno, gotovo svi Americki stripovi su u boji. Kao sto sam rekao prije ...ekskluzivno za djecu!

dp? Zagor i Predator? To se moze prihvatiti, i cak zvuci interesantno Ali "Zagor vs. Terminator" ili "Zagor vs. Superman"?

ma sve je ok Zeus, i meni idu reklame na onu stvar.

Ako hoces kupit stare ili nove stripove na engleskom ili francuskom jeziku kao Asterix,Spirou, Flash Gordon,Tintin,Lucky Luck,Gaston,Le secret de l'espadon ... samo mi posalji mail : zetina60@hotmail.com
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---dp---
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 02:36:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Pa, kod Zagora su odavno preterali jos sa Akronjanima, pa i sa paralelnim univerzumima, a poslednji sukob sa Helingenom da i ne spominjem, tako da na svu tu perverziju od preterivanja, predator dodje jos kao pozitivno osvezenje
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ken2
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 09:35:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message
mislim da predator u zagoru može funkcionirat, i original se dogada u šumi
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ken2
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 10:13:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message
a što se zagora tice, on naravno nije (tipicni) superjunak, ali ima dosta dodirnih tocaka: kostim, traumu iz djetinjstva zbog koje život posvecuje borbi protiv nepravde, pa sve do tematike, on pobjeduje nadnaravno iako ne leti, ne baca plamene kugle i nema paucinu
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Verfalk2003
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 10:41:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Verfalk2003's Homepage  Send Verfalk2003 a Private Message
Tako je. Talijanski superjunaci su Zagor (ken2 je objasnio što), Dylan Dog (tko može imati onoliko žena), Miki (zbog dostignuca u gadanju), MN (zbog kronicne neishrane i mogucnosti da preživi to).

Amerika guzove ti širim
Iz njih nova perspektiva viri
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---dp---
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 13:00:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Kako ne leti? Pa leti sa lijane na lijanu
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Verfalk2003
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 02:03:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Verfalk2003's Homepage  Send Verfalk2003 a Private Message
MM, zbog mogucnosti da onoliko prica bez da mu jezik presuši.

Amerika guzove ti širim
Iz njih nova perspektiva viri
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---dp---
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 04:08:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
He, pa onda je tek superheroj onaj jadnik koji mora da titluje Martijeve stripove :o)
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SANdMAN
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Fed Rep Yugoslavia
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 20:27:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mcn

>raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a fenomenalno >se prodaju

Kao na primjer?

mcn



100 bullets, lucifer, y-the last man...

/ Reason is always a kind of brute force /
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Mord
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 21:11:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
lucifer?

Moze malo vise informacija?
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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 21:47:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Mord

lucifer?

Moze malo vise informacija?





When asked to describe Vertigo's LUCIFER series, I often say, "Well, it's about the Devil, who, as we know, is 'a man of wealth and taste.'" Or, to go for something really esoteric, I'm reminded of the time I watched a video montage of X-FILES villain Alex Kryeck set to music by the Cherry Popping Daddies. After it finished, the woman next to me commented, "Krycek may be a bastard, but damn, he has style."



The same could be said of Mike Carey's Lucifer. It's his ineffable sense of style that makes Lucifer so intriguing. One likes him for the same reasons one likes Alex Krycek or Ryan O'Reily (from the TV series OZ). He's not an anti-hero, just an unrepentant, unabashed class-A bastard.



While Vertigo can be accused of strip-mining the SANDMAN name and legacy, LUCIFER does not suffer from the same sort of mediocrity and blandness that has plagued most SANDMAN offshoots, and its origins should not be held against it. Carey is a writer of dynamic vision and savage wit who understands that the problem with most depictions of the devil is that he is neither interesting nor scary, and comes across as little more than a horned buffoon and bully.



Carey's Lucifer is utterly chilling in his penetrating intellect, cold gaze, and utter lack of empathy or compassion. Like Milton's Satan, Carey's Lucifer has only one love: himself. The action in the stories contained in this trade collection flows from this fact. Lucifer cares not a wit about others and is always out to further his own ends. The protagonists damn themselves through their own weaknesses, through pursuit of their own selfish ends. Lucifer is not the architect of the suffering seen in these stories. Nobody goes to hell that does not put himself there. Lucifer does little more than capitalise upon their mistakes. (All right, he greases the skids here and there, but the protagonists can always choose not to smash that Champagne bottle.) Lucifer never lies to anyone... he just never tells the whole truth about his agenda.



/ Reason is always a kind of brute force /
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Mord
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 22:11:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
Thanks, opaka spika, teski hedonista ovaj lucifer.
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sAdam
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 23:16:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sAdam an ICQ Message  Send sAdam a Private Message
ja imam samo 3 broja lucifera, crtez nije bogznašto, al su mi price iz sandman svijeta uvijek interesantne...

quote:
quote:
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Originally posted by mcn

>raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a fenomenalno >se prodaju

Kao na primjer?

mcn

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100 bullets, lucifer, y-the last man...




pa cuj meni je tu lucifer ipak superjunak, pa serijal na kraju krajeva nosi njegovo ime
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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 23:49:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by sAdam
pa cuj meni je tu lucifer ipak superjunak, pa serijal na kraju krajeva nosi njegovo ime



pa ako jeste onda je to neki vrlo atipican superjunak. nema super moci, ne bori se protiv krimosa.

skoro svaki strip serijal nosi ime junaka (zato se i kaze junak! )
Asterix, Dzeremaja, Dilan Dog, Ken Parker, Korto Malteze... Sandman...

/ Reason is always a kind of brute force /
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Mord
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 23:52:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
ja isto imam neke sandman presents - 3 komada, ali vidim na netu da toga ima par tpb-a
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Tomek
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Posted - 16/07/2003 : 00:28:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tomek a Private Message
joj što sve debilni ameri mogu da stvore:-((((

Hajduk živi vjecno

We want to see old Ireland free once more.
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SANdMAN
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Posted - 16/07/2003 : 00:37:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
ma ima ih na desetine: The Thessaliad, The Furies, The Dead Boy Detectives, Bast, Love Street, Everything You Wanted To Know About Dreams But Where
Afraid To Ask, Petrefax, Merv Pumpkinhead Agent of Dream...
Darko je radio The Corinthian. samo prva Careyeva prica o Luciferu objavljena je kao Sandman Presents pod nazivom The Morningstar Option

/ Reason is always a kind of brute force /

Edited by - SANdMAN on 16/07/2003 02:57:55
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mcn
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Posted - 16/07/2003 : 09:31:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>>>raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a
>>>fenomenalno se prodaju

>>Kao na primjer?

>100 bullets, lucifer, y-the last man...

Oprosti, ali pitanje je bilo koji se to stripovi fenomenalno prodaju, a ne koji su mozze biti sami po sebi fenomenalni. Niti jedan od ovih ne prelazi 15-20 000 u izvornoj prodaji (ssto je, recimo, tocka na kojoj Marvel gasi naslove), s par somova dodatnih u knjigama. (Okej, ispravak: Y je poskocio iznad 25 000, skoro se zduplao u zadnjih 6 mjeseci, zasluzzeno jer je od tri navedena naslova jedini koji valja ) Koliko uopche joss mozzemo govoriti o fenomenalnoj prodaji u SAD (gdje Loeb/Leejev Batman ide nekih bijednih 140 000 na 275 milijuna stanovnika), fenomenalni su samo superheroji koji uredno drzze prvih 50 mjesta ljestvice, a mozzda i visse (aberacija za ovaj mjesec je DARK DAYS koji je visoko samo zato sstoje nastavak stripa za kojeg je Hollywood platio milju dolara).

Enivej, da ne lupam, evo liste za lipanj/jun:

QtyRank
Index
Title
Price
Pub
Est.Qty

1
100
BATMAN #616
$2.25
DC
141,736

2
78.1
ULTIMATE X-MEN #34
$2.25
MAR
110,753

3
70.7
ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #42
$2.25
MAR
100,151

4
70.5
WOLVERINE #2
$2.25
MAR
99,867

5
69.1
NEW X-MEN #142
$2.25
MAR
97,897

6
64.6
UNCANNY X-MEN #425
$2.25
MAR
91,547

7
63.3
UNCANNY X-MEN #426
$2.25
MAR
89,719

8
48.4
INCREDIBLE HULK #56
$2.25
MAR
68,529

9
47.4
TRANSFORMERS GENERATION ONE VOL 2 #3 (Of 6)
$2.95
DRE
67,211

10
47.2
VENOM #2
$2.25
MAR
66,956

11
47.1
SPIDER-MAN & WOLVERINE #1 (Of 4)
$2.99
MAR
66,729

12
45.1
X-TREME X-MEN #27
$2.99
MAR
63,923

13
44.8
BORN #1 (Of 4) (MR)
$3.50
MAR
63,554

14
42.2
DAREDEVIL #48
$2.99
MAR
59,869

15
41.3
JLA #82
$2.25
DC
58,480

16
40.6
AVENGERS #68
$2.25
MAR
57,587

17
37.4
FANTASTIC FOUR #70
$2.25
MAR
53,066

18
35.3
MARVEL UNIVERSE THE END #6 (Of 6)
$2.99
MAR
50,004

19
34.4
PETER PARKER SPIDER-MAN #57
$2.25
MAR
48,686

20
33.6
OUTSIDERS #1
$2.50
DC
47,666

21
33.2
GREEN ARROW #27
$2.50
DC
47,113

22
32.2
CAPTAIN AMERICA #14
$2.99
MAR
45,639

23
32.2
NEW MUTANTS #2
$2.50
MAR
45,568

24
30.9
JSA #49
$2.50
DC
43,740

25
29
GI JOE #18
$2.95
IMA
41,146

26
28.8
KINGPIN #1 (Of 6)
$2.50
MAR
40,777

27
28.1
BATMAN/SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN TRINITY #1
$6.95
DC
39,870

28
27.8
PUNISHER #28
$2.99
MAR
39,431

29
27.6
EXILES #28
$2.99
MAR
39,048

30
27.3
DARK DAYS #1 30 DAYS O/NIGHT SEQUEL (MR)
$3.99
IDW
38,751

31
27.3
PLANETARY/BATMAN NIGHT ON EARTH
$5.95
DC
38,666

32
26.9
JSA ALL STARS #2 (Of 8)
$2.50
DC
38,127

33
26.8
MYSTIQUE #3
$2.99
MAR
37,943

34
26.6
WOLVERINE SNIKT #2 (Of 6)
$2.99
MAR
37,631

35
26.5
DETECTIVE COMICS #783
$2.75
DC
37,603

36
26.4
HULK NIGHTMERICA #1 (Of 6)
$2.99
MAR
37,347

37
26.2
AUTHORITY VOL 2 #2 (MR)
$2.95
DC
37,092

38
26
TRANSFORMERS ARMADA #12
$2.95
DRE
36,908

39
25.4
GREEN LANTERN #166
$2.25
DC
35,973

40
25.2
TITANS/YOUNG JUSTICE GRADUATION DAY #3 (Of 3)
$2.50
DC
35,774

41
24.2
X-MEN UNLIMITED #48
$2.50
MAR
34,314

42
24.1
THUNDERCATS DOGS O/WAR #1 (Of 5)
$2.95
DC
34,130

43
23.9
TRUTH RED WHITE BLACK #6 (Of 7) (RES)
$3.50
MAR
33,875

44
23.8
THUNDERCATS RETURN #5 (Of 5)
$2.95
DC
33,662

45
23.7
SUPERMAN #194
$2.25
DC
33,563

46
23.6
THOR #65
$2.99
MAR
33,450

47
23.4
ASTRO CITY LOCAL HEROES #3 (Of 5)
$2.95
DC
33,180

48
23.1
SUPERMAN RED SON #2 (Of 3)
$5.95
DC
32,698

49
22.9
FLASH #199
$2.25
DC
32,458

50
22.8
TMNT ANIMATED #1*
$2.95
DRE
32,273

51
22.6
IRON MAN #69
$2.99
MAR
31,976

52
22.5
HULK MOVIE ADAPTATION
$3.50
MAR
31,891

53
22.2
ACTION COMICS #804
$2.25
DC
31,494

54
21.6
AQUAMAN #7
$2.50
DC
30,615

55
21.4
BATGIRL YEAR ONE #7 (Of 9)
$2.95
DC
30,289

56
21
BATGIRL #41
$2.50
DC
29,694

57
20.9
NIGHTWING #82
$2.25
DC
29,552

58
20.8
HAWKMAN #16
$2.50
DC
29,481

59
20.8
BATMAN GOTHAM KNIGHTS #42
$2.75
DC
29,410

60
20.6
ADVS O/SUPERMAN #617
$2.25
DC
29,183

61
20.2
INHUMANS #2
$2.50
MAR
28,645

62
20.1
NAMOR #3
$2.25
MAR
28,503

63
19.8
CAPTAIN MARVEL #11
$2.99
MAR
28,021

64
19.7
ARKHAM ASYLUM LIVING HELL #2 (Of 6)
$2.50
DC
27,851

65
19.5
PARADISE X #11
$2.99
MAR
27,639

66
19.4
ALIAS #23 (MR)
$2.99
MAR
27,426

67
19.3
WOLVERINE DOOP #2 (Of 2) (RES)
$2.99
MAR
27,398

68
19.3
LOBO UNBOUND #1 (Of 6) (MR)
$2.95
DC
27,327

69
19
X-MEN RONIN #5 (Of 5)
$2.99
MAR
26,859

70
18.9
JLA SCARY MONSTERS #4 (Of 6)
$2.50
DC
26,831

71
18.9
MAGDALENA VAMPIRELLA*
$2.99
IMA
26,831

72
18.9
BIRDS O/PREY #56
$2.50
DC
26,802

73
18.9
POWERS #32 (MR)
$2.95
IMA
26,774

74
18.8
SUPERMAN & BATMAN GENERATIONS III #6 (Of 12)
$2.95
DC
26,604

75
18.7
DARKNESS VOL 2 #4
$2.99
IMA
26,561

76
18.4
ELEKTRA #24
$2.99
MAR
26,023

77
18.4
BATMAN LEGENDS O/T DARK KNIGHT #168
$2.50
DC
26,009

78
18.3
Y THE LAST MAN #12 (MR)
$2.95
DC
25,966

79
18.2
AGENT X #11
$2.99
MAR
25,824

80
18.1
WONDER WOMAN #193
$2.25
DC
25,598

81
17.8
HUMAN TORCH #3
$2.50
MAR
25,286

82
17.8
DOMINO #2
$2.50
MAR
25,272

83
17.8
FABLES #14 (MR)
$2.50
DC
25,229

84
17.8
ETERNAL #1 (MR)
$2.99
MAR
25,172

85
17.2
AGENT X #12
$2.99
MAR
24,350

86
16.5
TERRA OBSCURA #1 (Of 6)
$2.95
DC
23,443

87
16.5
SPIDER-GIRL #61
$2.99
MAR
23,429

88
16.4
CATWOMAN #20
$2.50
DC
23,231

89
16.4
SENTINEL #3
$2.50
MAR
23,174

90
16.2
VOLTRON DEFENDER O/T UNIVERSE #2 (Of 5)
$2.95
IMA
22,975

91
16.2
WAR MACHINE 2.0 #1 (Of 3) (MR)
$2.99
MAR
22,947

92
16.1
LEGION #21
$2.50
DC
22,749

93
16
ROBOTECH LOVE & WAR #1 (Of 6)
$2.95
DC
22,706

94
16
SOJOURN #24
$2.95
CRO
22,678

95
15.6
ROBIN #115
$2.25
DC
22,054

96
15.5
WITCHBLADE #65
$2.99
IMA
21,941

97
15.3
CREW #2
$2.50
MAR
21,615

98
15.1
WAR MACHINE 2.0 #2 (Of 3) (MR)
$2.99
MAR
21,402

99
15
TOMB RAIDER #31
$2.99
IMA
21,317

100
14.7
WITCHBLADE #66
$2.99
IMA
20,835

101
14.7
RUNAWAYS #3
$2.50
MAR
20,778

102
14.4
STAR WARS REPUBLIC #54
$2.99
DAR
20,467

103
14.1
JLA WELCOME TO WORKING WEEK
$6.95
DC
19,928

104
14
HELLBOY WEIRD TALES #3
$2.99
DAR
19,900

105
14
HERO #5
$2.50
DC
19,886

106
14
LOSERS #1 (MR)
$2.95
DC
19,815

107
13.9
STARTLING STORIES THING NIGHT FALLS ON YANCY ST #1
$3.50
MAR
19,715

108
13.8
CRIMINAL MACABRE CAL MCDONALD MYSTERY #2 (Of 5)
$2.99
DAR
19,503

109
13.8
BATMAN NEVERMORE #3 (Of 5)
$2.50
DC
19,489

110
13.7
FILTH #11 (Of 13) (MR)
$2.95
DC
19,446

111
13.5
TRANSFORMERS MORE THAN MEETS EYE OFFICIAL GUIDE #3
$5.25
DRE
19,063

112
13.4
STAR WARS TALES #16*
$5.99
DAR
19,035

113
13.4
MOTU VOL 2 SANTALUCIA CVR #4
$2.95
IMA
19,007

114
13.4
BRIAN PULIDO LADY DEATH #5
$2.95
CRO
18,964

115
13.2
THUNDERBOLTS #80 (Note Price)
$2.25
MAR
18,766

116
12.9
TOKYO STORM WARNING #1 (Of 3)
$2.95
DC
18,341

117
12.6
RED STAR VOL 2 #2
$2.95
ARC
17,802

118
12.4
SOLDIER X #12
$2.99
MAR
17,547

119
12.3
GOTHAM CENTRAL #8
$2.50
DC
17,391

120
12.1
100 BULLETS #45 (MR)
$2.50
DC
17,207

121
11.9
PROMETHEA #26
$2.95
DC
16,895

122
11.9
SOLUS #4
$2.95
CRO
16,895

123
11.7
MOTU ICONS O/EVIL BEAST MAN #1
$4.95
IMA
16,626

124
11.7
BIRDS O/PREY SECRET FILES 2003
$4.95
DC
16,569

125
11.7
HELLBLAZER #185 (MR)
$2.75
DC
16,555

126
11.6
STARTLING STORIES THING NIGHT FALLS ON YANCY ST #2
$3.50
MAR
16,413

127
11.6
BOTP JASON ONE-SHOT
$4.99
IMA
16,371

128
11.4
SUPERMAN METROPOLIS #5 (Of 12)
$2.95
DC
16,200

129
11.4
VICTORY CVR #1
$2.95
IMA
16,158

130
11.4
BLACK PANTHER #60
$2.99
MAR
16,115

131
11.3
WILDCATS VERSION 3.0 #10 (MR)
$2.95
DC
16,073

132
11.3
HARLEY QUINN #33
$2.50
DC
16,030

133
11.2
GEN 13 #10
$2.95
DC
15,860

134
11.1
BLACK PANTHER #61
$2.99
MAR
15,704

135
11
BATMAN ADVENTURES #3
$2.25
DC
15,534

136
10.9
WILDCATS VERSION 3.0 #11 (MR)
$2.95
DC
15,435

137
10.6
OUT THERE #18
$2.95
DC
14,981

138
10.6
WAY O/T RAT #14
$2.95
CRO
14,953

139
10.4
BTVS #58 SLAYER INTERRUPTED (3 Of 4)*
$2.99
DAR
14,698

140
10.3
WARLANDS VOL 3 #6
$2.95
DRE
14,585

141
10.3
BLOOD & WATER #4 (Of 5) (MR)
$2.95
DC
14,542

142
10.3
BTVS CHAOS BLEEDS ONE-SHOT*
$2.99
DAR
14,542

143
10
CHIMERA #4 (Of 4)
$2.95
CRO
14,230

144
9.92
JUSTICE LEAGUE ADVS #20
$2.25
DC
14,060

145
9.9
SIMPSONS COMICS #83
$2.50
BON
14,032

146
9.9
EMPIRE #0 (Of 6)
$4.95
DC
14,032

147
9.87
BRATH #5
$2.95
CRO
13,989

148
9.66
LUCIFER #39 (MR)
$2.50
DC
13,692

149
9.53
STORMWATCH TEAM ACHILLES #12 (MR)
$2.95
DC
13,507

150
9.47
CASEFILES SAM & TWITCH #1 (MR)
$2.50
IMA
13,422

151
9.45
SCION #37
$2.95
CRO
13,394

152
9.41
BEWARE THE CREEPER #3 (Of 5) (MR)
$2.95
DC
13,337

153
9.17
MICRONAUTS #8
$2.95
IMA
12,997

154
9.07
POWER COMPANY #17
$2.75
DC
12,855

155
9.03
SILKEN GHOST #2 (Of 5)
$2.95
CRO
12,799

156
8.79
HUMANS DEFENSE CORPS #2 (Of 6)
$2.50
DC
12,459

157
8.7
DOOM PATROL #21
$2.50
DC
12,331

158
8.5
NEGATION #19
$2.95
CRO
12,048

159
8.31
MYSTIC #37
$2.95
CRO
11,778

160
8.14
CRUX #27
$2.95
CRO
11,537

161
8.04
STRANGERS IN PARADISE VOL III #58
$2.95
ABS
11,396

162
8.02
SIGIL #37
$2.95
CRO
11,367

163
7.91
HUNTER AGE O/MAGIC #24 (MR)
$2.75
DC
11,211

164
7.91
RUSE #21
$2.95
CRO
11,211

165
7.88
MARK OF CHARON #4 (Of 5)
$2.95
CRO
11,169

166
7.87
ROUTE 666 #13
$2.95
CRO
11,155

167
7.82
MERIDIAN #37
$2.95
CRO
11,084

168
7.79
FIRST #32
$2.95
CRO
11,041

169
7.73
JUDGE DREDD VS ALIENS INCUBUS #4 (OF 4)
$2.99
DAR
10,956

170
7.62
CALL #3
$2.25
MAR
10,800

171
7.11
MOTU VOL 2 VALLEJO BELL CVR #4
$5.95
IMA
10,077

172
6.82
XIN JOURNEY O/T MONKEY KING #2*
$2.99
HAR
9,666

173
6.77
EVEN MORE SECRET ORIGINS 80-PG GIANT
$6.95
DC
9,596

174
6.75
SANDSCAPE #4
$2.95
DRE
9,567

175
6.75
DH GOON #1
$2.99
DAR
9,567

176
6.66
SLEEPER #6 (MR)
$2.95
DC
9,440

177
6.61
PATH #16
$2.95
CRO
9,369

178
6.46
SPYBOY 13.2 MANGA AFFAIR #2 (Of 3)
$2.99
DAR
9,156

179
6.32
CROSSOVERS #6
$2.95
CRO
8,958

180
6.31
SHONEN JUMP VOL 1 #7 JUL 2003
$4.95
VIZ
8,944

181
6.31
AMERICAN CENTURY #25 (MR)
$2.75
DC
8,944

182
6.26
MOTU VOL 2 EDWARDS HOLOFOIL CVR
$5.95
IMA
8,873

183
6.15
VAMPIRELLA #21 REG ED
$2.99
HAR
8,717

184
6.01
R A SALVATORE DEMON WARS VOL 2 #2 EYE FOR EYE
$2.95
CRO
8,518

185
5.96
TOP COW BOOK O/REVELATIONS 2003
$3.99
IMA
8,447

186
5.61
VERTIGO POP BANGKOK #2 (Of 4) (MR)
$2.95
DC
7,951

187
5.59
SOUL O/SAMURAI #1 (Of 4)
$5.95
IMA
7,923

188
5.54
21 DOWN #10
$2.95
DC
7,852

189
5.51
POWERPUFF GIRLS #39
$2.25
DC
7,810

190
5.28
USAGI YOJIMBO #66
$2.99
DAR
7,484

191
5.18
SWEATSHOP #3
$2.95
DC
7,342

192
4.99
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES #10 (Note Price)
$3.95
MIR
7,073

193
4.99
UNCLE SCROOGE #319
$6.95
GEM
7,073

194
4.98
QUEEN & COUNTRY #16 (MR)
$2.99
ONI
7,058

195
4.96
GRENDEL GOD & DEVIL #5 (Of 10) (MR)
$3.50
DAR
7,030

196
4.95
TERMINATOR 3 BEFORE THE RISE #1 (MR)
$5.95
BEC
7,016

197
4.93
KORE #2
$2.95
IMA
6,988

198
4.92
REX MUNDI #4
$2.95
IMA
6,973

199
4.85
BATMAN #615
$2.25
DC
6,874

200
4.83
OH MY GODDESS #98 PHANTOM RACER (3 Of 4)
$2.99
DAR
6,846

201
4.78
KNIGHTS O/T DINNER TABLE #80
$3.99
KZR
6,775

202
4.73
NOBLE CAUSES EXTENDED FAMILY ONE-SHOT
$6.95
IMA
6,704

203
4.69
CLOCKMAKER #4 (Of 12)
$2.50
IMA
6,647

204
4.58
MYTHSTALKERS #3
$2.95
IMA
6,492

205
4.55
KODT MINI-SERIES PX SP VOL 1 #3 (Of 3)*
$2.99
KZR
6,449

206
4.33
BLADE O/T IMMORTAL #79 WIND & CRANE (MR)
$2.99
DAR
6,137

207
4.29
CEREBUS #289 & #290
$4.50
AAR
6,080

208
4.27
SONIC THE HEDGEHOG #124
$2.19
ARC
6,052

209
4.18
SCOOBY DOO #73
$2.25
DC
5,925

210
3.89
GRRL SCOUTS WORK SUCKS #4 (Of 4)
$2.95
IMA
5,514

211
3.82
HEIRS O/ETERNITY #2 (Of 5)
$2.95
IMA
5,414

212
3.65
BLACKBURNE COVENANT #3 (Of 4)
$2.99
DAR
5,173

213
3.49
SUPER MANGA BLAST #32 (MR)
$5.99
DAR
4,947

214
3.42
CVO COVERT VAMPIRIC OPERATIONS (MR)
$5.99
IDW
4,847

215
3.41
BEAR #1
$2.95
SLA
4,833

216
3.22
CANNON GOD EXAXXION #14 (MR)
$3.50
DAR
4,564

217
3.22
WALT DISNEYS COMICS & STORIES #634
$6.95
GEM
4,564

218
2.86
LOVE FIGHTS #1
$2.99
ONI
4,054

219
2.85
PLANETARY READER
$5.95
DC
4,039

220
2.83
MOTU VOL 2 #1*
$2.95
IMA
4,011

221
2.59
TOO MUCH HOPELESS SAVAGES #1 (Of 4)
$2.99
ONI
3,671

222
2.5
LOONEY TUNES #103
$2.25
DC
3,543

223
2.47
WARREN ELLIS SCARS #6 (Of 6) (MR)
$3.50
AVA
3,501

224
2.41
ZEET #1
$2.95
SLA
3,416

225
2.41
ARCHIE #537
$2.19
ARC
3,416

226
2.33
ARTESIA AFIRE #1 (Of 6) (MR)
$3.95
ARC
3,302

227
2.32
GLOOM COOKIE #16 (MR)
$2.95
SLA
3,288

228
2.27
DEATHMASK #2
$2.99
FUT
3,217

229
2.26
ZEN #1
$2.95
ZEN
3,203

230
2.18
BETTY & VERONICA #189
$2.19
ARC
3,090

231
2.1
KODT ILLUSTRATED #23
$2.99
KZR
2,976

232
2.08
NIGHTMARES & FAIRY TALES #5
$2.95
SLA
2,948

233
2.06
BETTY #127
$2.19
ARC
2,920

234
2.02
VERONICA #141
$2.19
ARC
2,863

235
2
SABRINA VOL 2 #46
$2.19
ARC
2,835

236
1.99
MUCHA LUCHA #3 (Of 3)
$2.25
DC
2,821

237
1.92
POPBOT #4 (MR)
$7.99
IDW
2,721

238
1.91
UNCANNY X-MEN #424
$2.25
MAR
2,707

239
1.87
BETTY & VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #116
$3.59
ARC
2,650

240
1.83
CARTOON CARTOONS #19
$2.25
DC
2,594

241
1.83
ARCHIE & FRIENDS #72
$2.19
ARC
2,594

242
1.8
SIDEKICKS SUPER SUMMER FUN SP ONE-SHOT
$2.99
ONI
2,551

243
1.79
GHOST I/T SHELL 2 MAN/MACHINE INTERFACE #2 NEW PRTG
$3.50
DAR
2,537

244
1.79
METALLIX #5
$3.50
FUT
2,537

245
1.73
ALICE IN SEXLAND EXTREME #2 (A)
$3.50
ERO
2,452

246
1.72
NINJA HIGH SCHOOL #106
$3.50
ANT
2,438

247
1.67
PALS N GALS DOUBLE DIGEST #76
$3.59
ARC
2,367

248
1.66
AKIKO #50
$3.50
SIR
2,353

249
1.66
BETTY & VERONICA DIGEST #139
$2.39
ARC
2,353

250
1.62
NEW X-MEN #141
$2.25
MAR
2,296

251
1.61
ARCHIE DIGEST #199
$2.39
ARC
2,282

252
1.59
JUGHEADS DOUBLE DIGEST #95
$3.59
ARC
2,254

253
1.57
HOT MOMS #1 (A)
$3.95
ERO
2,225

254
1.56
WOLVERINE #1
$2.25
MAR
2,211

255
1.53
JUGHEAD #151
$2.19
ARC
2,169

256
1.45
BLACK TIDE #6*
$2.95
ANG
2,055

257
1.45
TITANS/YOUNG JUSTICE GRADUATION DAY #2 (Of 3)
$2.50
DC
2,055

258
1.42
GENUS #59 (A) (Note Price)
$3.50
RAD
2,013

259
1.42
CAVEWOMAN HE SAID SHE SAID ONE-SHOT (RES)
$3.50
AMR
2,013

260
1.4
ARCHIE MYSTERIES #28
$2.19
ARC
1,984

261
1.39
ULTIMATE X-MEN #33
$2.25
MAR
1,970

262
1.37
FLASH #198
$2.25
DC
1,942

263
1.34
LURID #3 (MR)
$2.99
IDW
1,899

264
1.33
MIKE HOFFMANS LOST WORLDS O/FANTASY & SCI-FI #1
$2.95
AMR
1,885

265
1.32
CRIMINAL MACABRE CAL MCDONALD MYSTERY #1 (OF 5)
$2.99
DAR
1,871

266
1.32
JUGHEAD W/ARCHIE DIGEST #184
$2.39
ARC
1,871

267
1.31
RAIJIN COMICS #25 (MR)
$4.95
GUT
1,857

268
1.31
RAIJIN COMICS #26 (MR)
$4.95
GUT
1,857

269
1.3
RAIJIN COMICS #27 (MR)
$4.95
GUT
1,843

270
1.28
RAIJIN COMICS #28 (MR)
$4.95
GUT
1,814

271
1.27
ALRAUNE #6 (A)
$3.50
ERO
1,800

272
1.21
HALO & SPROCKET #4
$2.95
SLA
1,715

273
1.19
VAMPI OMEGA #1 PROTOTYPE ED
$4.95
HAR
1,687

274
1.18
SUPERMAN #193
$2.25
DC
1,672

275
1.18
BATMAN #614
$2.25
DC
1,672

276
1.16
PS238 #2
$2.99
DOR
1,644

277
1.16
NEOTOPIA #5
$3.95
ANT
1,644

278
1.13
ULTIMATES #10
$2.25
MAR
1,602

279
1.1
COUNTER OPS #2 (Of 5)
$3.95
ANT
1,559

280
1.08
LITTLE SCROWLIE #2
$2.95
SLA
1,531

281
1
LUFTWAFFE 1946 #10
$5.95
ANT
1,417

282
0.98
WARREN ELLIS SCARS WRAP CVR #6 (Of 6) (MR)
$3.95
AVA
1,389

283
0.97
GHOST I/T SHELL 2 MAN/MACHINE INTERFACE #4 (MR)
$3.50
DAR
1,375

284
0.96
FINDER #31 (MR)
$2.95
LIG
1,361

285
0.96
INCREDIBLE HULK ACE ED #1
$13.99
WIZ
1,361

286
0.94
BIG O PART 4 #4 (Of 4)
$3.50
VIZ
1,332

287
0.93
TRANSFORMERS GENERATION ONE VOL 2 #1 (Of 6)
$2.95
DRE
1,318

288
0.93
HERO DOUBLE FEATURE
$4.95
DC
1,318

289
0.91
SHOUJO #1
$5.95
ANT
1,290

290
0.9
SNAPDRAGONS #3
$2.99
DOR
1,276

291
0.9
ARKHAM ASYLUM LIVING HELL #1 (Of 6)
$2.50
DC
1,276

292
0.89
BIPOLAR #4
$2.95
ALT
1,261

293
0.89
FADE FROM BLUE #7
$1.50
SEC
1,261

294
0.88
SOUL ASSASSIN ONE-SHOT
$3.50
AER
1,247

295
0.88
SPIRIT O/T AMAZON #2 (RES) (MR)
$2.95
NWS
1,247

296
0.79
MONSTER CLUB #6
$3.50
CMX
1,120

297
0.79
PETEY #1
$2.95
BAB
1,120

298
0.78
REHD #0
$2.50
ANT
1,106

299
0.78
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #53
$2.25
MAR
1,106

300
0.78
CLASSIC ILLUS JR #519 PAUL BUNYAN
$3.99
JAC
1,106






Notes on this chart:

Some titles have been truncated or abbreviated for space reasons.

Publisher abbreviations have also been used.

MAR = Marvel

DAR = Dark Horse

DRE = Dreamwave

IMA = Image

FUT = Future Comics

CAR = Cartoon Books

HAR = Harris

CRO = CrossGen

BON = Bongo

TKP = Tokyo Pop






These estimates are based on ICv2 estimates of comic sales by Diamond North America during June, 2003. They do not include sales made by Diamond UK, orders on these titles placed after the end of June, or copies purchased by Diamond but held in inventory at the end of June.



Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, CrossGen, and Image distribute 100% of their comic store orders through Diamond. Some other publishers distribute directly to stores or through other distributors and as a result this analysis may underestimate their sales.



Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, Image, and CrossGen distribute some of their titles through channels other than comic specialty stores, e.g., newsstands and bookstores. These quantity estimates do not reflect distribution through those channels.



Most of the titles on this chart are also distributed to Europe by Diamond UK, which can account for significant sales for the publisher, ranging from 3-20% of the US numbers. Sales by Diamond UK are not included in the numbers above.



One other factor to consider is that sales through Diamond and other comic distributors are non-returnable to retailers. That means that there is a considerable unknown percentage of books unsold at the retailer level, probably amounting to 5-20% of sales.



For the top 50 graphic novels actual orders in May, see "Top 50 Graphic Novels Actual--May 2003".



For the top 300 comic actual orders in May, see "Top 300 Comics Actual--May 2003."



For an overview and analsysis of the actual May orders and an explanation of the transition to our new reporting, see "Wolverine Debuts On Top In May" and "ICv2 Kicks Off New Top 300 Reporting."



For links to all previous Top 300 Comic and Top 50 Graphic Novel articles (going back over three years, including preorder analysis through March 2003 and actual order analysis beginning March 2003) see: "ICv2's Top 300 Comics and Top 50 GNs Index."

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