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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:43:15
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quote: Originally posted by Zeus
Vecina stripova u Americi su smece. Otprilike 98% se moze kvalifikovati kao toalet papir, i to lose kvalitete. Amerikanci printaju nemoguca sranja, i to u velikom tirazu. Pa samo DC Comics izbaci preko 60 miliona primjeraka mjesecno. (statistika iz 1996 ja vjerujem). To je puno toalet papira! 
Cuj ovo, neki dan sam vidio "Superman vs. Terminator" i pazite ovo ... "Tarzan vs. Predator" ...HAHAHAHA  Cuj "Tarzan" protiv "Predatora"!? Nemaju kreatori i pisci vise ideja... sta je sljedece? "Mickey Mouse vs. Conan"??? hehe... 
Vecina stripova su za djecu, time mislim sve ispod 9-10 godina starosti. Sve neki, super heroji u tjesnim gacama. Pfftt! 
Boze me sacuvaj Americke kreativnosti!
pa nisu sranje, mozda za tebe jesu jer si stari pa ti je dosadno citati.I meni je sada dosadno citat NEKE americke stripove jer sam odrasto.Kad si dijete od 10 godina pa ovi americki stripovi super ti todju, sto je najbolje imas dosta izbora i stripovi izlaze jako redovno.Meni je jos Batman i Superman interesantni i kladim se da nisam jedini na forumu.
Ako hoces kupit stare ili nove stripove na engleskom ili francuskom jeziku kao Asterix,Spirou, Flash Gordon,Tintin,Lucky Luck,Gaston,Le secret de l'espadon ... samo mi posalji mail : zetina60@hotmail.com |
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:48:22
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Inace, stvarno je Ferri preterao sa Zagorovom levom rukom, a i pistolj u futroli je kao cackalica u odnosu na samo saku leve ruke, a da ne govorim o celoj ruci... |
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Posted - 13/07/2003 : 23:57:20
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Verovatno su linkovi od tvoga provajdera trenutno zakrceni prema serveru na kojem je SBE sajt... meni se isto to ponekad desava sa nekim sajtovima (na primer, cesto ne mogu otvoriti Brazilski sajt o stripovima) |
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 00:59:28
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Turbo ima tu istine, ja sam malo stariji i ovi super-ultra-mega heroji u sarenim i tjesnim kostimima sa smijesnim maskama (kao nesto iz ranih sezdesetih) meni izgledaju ...kao glupost. Pravo da ti kazem i kad sam bio mladji nisam volio te ne-realisticne "super-heroje". Sto se tice Americkih stripova, besmislene strukture dogadjaja i smijesni kostimi nisu jedini problemi koji se mogu naci. Americki stripovi su vecinom samo 32 stranice! Plus svakojake reklame se mogu naci na svakoj trecoj strani (veoma dosadno!)...to su ogromne reklame koje uzimaju cak i po dvije citave stranice! I naravno, gotovo svi Americki stripovi su u boji. Kao sto sam rekao prije ...ekskluzivno za djecu!
dp? Zagor i Predator? To se moze prihvatiti, i cak zvuci interesantno Ali "Zagor vs. Terminator" ili "Zagor vs. Superman"?  |
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 01:05:43
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quote: Originally posted by Zeus
Turbo ima tu istine, ja sam malo stariji i ovi super-ultra-mega heroji u sarenim i tjesnim kostimima sa smijesnim maskama (kao nesto iz ranih sezdesetih) meni izgledaju ...kao glupost. Pravo da ti kazem i kad sam bio mladji nisam volio te ne-realisticne "super-heroje". Sto se tice Americkih stripova, besmislene strukture dogadjaja i smijesni kostimi nisu jedini problemi koji se mogu naci. Americki stripovi su vecinom samo 32 stranice! Plus svakojake reklame se mogu naci na svakoj trecoj strani (veoma dosadno!)...to su ogromne reklame koje uzimaju cak i po dvije citave stranice! I naravno, gotovo svi Americki stripovi su u boji. Kao sto sam rekao prije ...ekskluzivno za djecu!
dp? Zagor i Predator? To se moze prihvatiti, i cak zvuci interesantno Ali "Zagor vs. Terminator" ili "Zagor vs. Superman"? 
ma sve je ok Zeus, i meni idu reklame na onu stvar.
Ako hoces kupit stare ili nove stripove na engleskom ili francuskom jeziku kao Asterix,Spirou, Flash Gordon,Tintin,Lucky Luck,Gaston,Le secret de l'espadon ... samo mi posalji mail : zetina60@hotmail.com |
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 02:36:11
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Pa, kod Zagora su odavno preterali jos sa Akronjanima, pa i sa paralelnim univerzumima, a poslednji sukob sa Helingenom da i ne spominjem, tako da na svu tu perverziju od preterivanja, predator dodje jos kao pozitivno osvezenje |
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 10:13:47
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a što se zagora tice, on naravno nije (tipicni) superjunak, ali ima dosta dodirnih tocaka: kostim, traumu iz djetinjstva zbog koje život posvecuje borbi protiv nepravde, pa sve do tematike, on pobjeduje nadnaravno iako ne leti, ne baca plamene kugle i nema paucinu |
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Posted - 14/07/2003 : 10:41:25
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Tako je. Talijanski superjunaci su Zagor (ken2 je objasnio što), Dylan Dog (tko može imati onoliko žena ), Miki (zbog dostignuca u gadanju ), MN (zbog kronicne neishrane i mogucnosti da preživi to ).
Amerika guzove ti širim Iz njih nova perspektiva viri |
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 20:27:09
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quote: Originally posted by mcn
>raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a fenomenalno >se prodaju
Kao na primjer?
mcn
100 bullets, lucifer, y-the last man...
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 21:47:02
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quote: Originally posted by Mord
lucifer?
Moze malo vise informacija?

When asked to describe Vertigo's LUCIFER series, I often say, "Well, it's about the Devil, who, as we know, is 'a man of wealth and taste.'" Or, to go for something really esoteric, I'm reminded of the time I watched a video montage of X-FILES villain Alex Kryeck set to music by the Cherry Popping Daddies. After it finished, the woman next to me commented, "Krycek may be a bastard, but damn, he has style."

The same could be said of Mike Carey's Lucifer. It's his ineffable sense of style that makes Lucifer so intriguing. One likes him for the same reasons one likes Alex Krycek or Ryan O'Reily (from the TV series OZ). He's not an anti-hero, just an unrepentant, unabashed class-A bastard.

While Vertigo can be accused of strip-mining the SANDMAN name and legacy, LUCIFER does not suffer from the same sort of mediocrity and blandness that has plagued most SANDMAN offshoots, and its origins should not be held against it. Carey is a writer of dynamic vision and savage wit who understands that the problem with most depictions of the devil is that he is neither interesting nor scary, and comes across as little more than a horned buffoon and bully.

Carey's Lucifer is utterly chilling in his penetrating intellect, cold gaze, and utter lack of empathy or compassion. Like Milton's Satan, Carey's Lucifer has only one love: himself. The action in the stories contained in this trade collection flows from this fact. Lucifer cares not a wit about others and is always out to further his own ends. The protagonists damn themselves through their own weaknesses, through pursuit of their own selfish ends. Lucifer is not the architect of the suffering seen in these stories. Nobody goes to hell that does not put himself there. Lucifer does little more than capitalise upon their mistakes. (All right, he greases the skids here and there, but the protagonists can always choose not to smash that Champagne bottle.) Lucifer never lies to anyone... he just never tells the whole truth about his agenda.

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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 23:16:44
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ja imam samo 3 broja lucifera, crtez nije bogznašto, al su mi price iz sandman svijeta uvijek interesantne...
quote: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by mcn
>raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a fenomenalno >se prodaju
Kao na primjer?
mcn
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100 bullets, lucifer, y-the last man...
pa cuj meni je tu lucifer ipak superjunak, pa serijal na kraju krajeva nosi njegovo ime |
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Posted - 15/07/2003 : 23:49:26
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quote: Originally posted by sAdam pa cuj meni je tu lucifer ipak superjunak, pa serijal na kraju krajeva nosi njegovo ime
pa ako jeste onda je to neki vrlo atipican superjunak. nema super moci, ne bori se protiv krimosa.
skoro svaki strip serijal nosi ime junaka (zato se i kaze junak! ) Asterix, Dzeremaja, Dilan Dog, Ken Parker, Korto Malteze... Sandman... 
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ma ima ih na desetine: The Thessaliad, The Furies, The Dead Boy Detectives, Bast, Love Street, Everything You Wanted To Know About Dreams But Where Afraid To Ask, Petrefax, Merv Pumpkinhead Agent of Dream... Darko je radio The Corinthian. samo prva Careyeva prica o Luciferu objavljena je kao Sandman Presents pod nazivom The Morningstar Option
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Posted - 16/07/2003 : 09:31:35
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>>>raznoraznih serijala koji nemaju veze sa superjunacima a >>>fenomenalno se prodaju
>>Kao na primjer?
>100 bullets, lucifer, y-the last man...
Oprosti, ali pitanje je bilo koji se to stripovi fenomenalno prodaju, a ne koji su mozze biti sami po sebi fenomenalni. Niti jedan od ovih ne prelazi 15-20 000 u izvornoj prodaji (ssto je, recimo, tocka na kojoj Marvel gasi naslove), s par somova dodatnih u knjigama. (Okej, ispravak: Y je poskocio iznad 25 000, skoro se zduplao u zadnjih 6 mjeseci, zasluzzeno jer je od tri navedena naslova jedini koji valja ) Koliko uopche joss mozzemo govoriti o fenomenalnoj prodaji u SAD (gdje Loeb/Leejev Batman ide nekih bijednih 140 000 na 275 milijuna stanovnika), fenomenalni su samo superheroji koji uredno drzze prvih 50 mjesta ljestvice, a mozzda i visse (aberacija za ovaj mjesec je DARK DAYS koji je visoko samo zato sstoje nastavak stripa za kojeg je Hollywood platio milju dolara).
Enivej, da ne lupam, evo liste za lipanj/jun:
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130 11.4 BLACK PANTHER #60 $2.99 MAR 16,115 131 11.3 WILDCATS VERSION 3.0 #10 (MR) $2.95 DC 16,073 132 11.3 HARLEY QUINN #33 $2.50 DC 16,030 133 11.2 GEN 13 #10 $2.95 DC 15,860 134 11.1 BLACK PANTHER #61 $2.99 MAR 15,704 135 11 BATMAN ADVENTURES #3 $2.25 DC 15,534 136 10.9 WILDCATS VERSION 3.0 #11 (MR) $2.95 DC 15,435 137 10.6 OUT THERE #18 $2.95 DC 14,981 138 10.6 WAY O/T RAT #14 $2.95 CRO 14,953 139 10.4 BTVS #58 SLAYER INTERRUPTED (3 Of 4)* $2.99 DAR 14,698 140 10.3 WARLANDS VOL 3 #6 $2.95 DRE 14,585 141 10.3 BLOOD & WATER #4 (Of 5) (MR) $2.95 DC 14,542 142 10.3 BTVS CHAOS BLEEDS ONE-SHOT* $2.99 DAR 14,542 143 10 CHIMERA #4 (Of 4) $2.95 CRO 14,230 144 9.92 JUSTICE LEAGUE ADVS #20 $2.25 DC 14,060 145 9.9 SIMPSONS COMICS #83 $2.50 BON 14,032 146 9.9 EMPIRE #0 (Of 6) $4.95 DC 14,032 147 9.87 BRATH #5 $2.95 CRO 13,989 148 9.66 LUCIFER #39 (MR) $2.50 DC 13,692 149 9.53 STORMWATCH TEAM ACHILLES #12 (MR) $2.95 DC 13,507 150 9.47 CASEFILES SAM & TWITCH #1 (MR) $2.50 IMA 13,422 151 9.45 SCION #37 $2.95 CRO 13,394 152 9.41 BEWARE THE CREEPER #3 (Of 5) (MR) $2.95 DC 13,337 153 9.17 MICRONAUTS #8 $2.95 IMA 12,997 154 9.07 POWER COMPANY #17 $2.75 DC 12,855 155 9.03 SILKEN GHOST #2 (Of 5) $2.95 CRO 12,799 156 8.79 HUMANS DEFENSE CORPS #2 (Of 6) $2.50 DC 12,459 157 8.7 DOOM PATROL #21 $2.50 DC 12,331 158 8.5 NEGATION #19 $2.95 CRO 12,048 159 8.31 MYSTIC #37 $2.95 CRO 11,778 160 8.14 CRUX #27 $2.95 CRO 11,537 161 8.04 STRANGERS IN PARADISE VOL III #58 $2.95 ABS 11,396 162 8.02 SIGIL #37 $2.95 CRO 11,367 163 7.91 HUNTER AGE O/MAGIC #24 (MR) $2.75 DC 11,211 164 7.91 RUSE #21 $2.95 CRO 11,211 165 7.88 MARK OF CHARON #4 (Of 5) $2.95 CRO 11,169 166 7.87 ROUTE 666 #13 $2.95 CRO 11,155 167 7.82 MERIDIAN #37 $2.95 CRO 11,084 168 7.79 FIRST #32 $2.95 CRO 11,041 169 7.73 JUDGE DREDD VS ALIENS INCUBUS #4 (OF 4) $2.99 DAR 10,956 170 7.62 CALL #3 $2.25 MAR 10,800 171 7.11 MOTU VOL 2 VALLEJO BELL CVR #4 $5.95 IMA 10,077 172 6.82 XIN JOURNEY O/T MONKEY KING #2* $2.99 HAR 9,666 173 6.77 EVEN MORE SECRET ORIGINS 80-PG GIANT $6.95 DC 9,596 174 6.75 SANDSCAPE #4 $2.95 DRE 9,567 175 6.75 DH GOON #1 $2.99 DAR 9,567 176 6.66 SLEEPER #6 (MR) $2.95 DC 9,440 177 6.61 PATH #16 $2.95 CRO 9,369 178 6.46 SPYBOY 13.2 MANGA AFFAIR #2 (Of 3) $2.99 DAR 9,156 179 6.32 CROSSOVERS #6 $2.95 CRO 8,958 180 6.31 SHONEN JUMP VOL 1 #7 JUL 2003 $4.95 VIZ 8,944 181 6.31 AMERICAN CENTURY #25 (MR) $2.75 DC 8,944 182 6.26 MOTU VOL 2 EDWARDS HOLOFOIL CVR $5.95 IMA 8,873 183 6.15 VAMPIRELLA #21 REG ED $2.99 HAR 8,717 184 6.01 R A SALVATORE DEMON WARS VOL 2 #2 EYE FOR EYE $2.95 CRO 8,518 185 5.96 TOP COW BOOK O/REVELATIONS 2003 $3.99 IMA 8,447 186 5.61 VERTIGO POP BANGKOK #2 (Of 4) (MR) $2.95 DC 7,951 187 5.59 SOUL O/SAMURAI #1 (Of 4) $5.95 IMA 7,923 188 5.54 21 DOWN #10 $2.95 DC 7,852 189 5.51 POWERPUFF GIRLS #39 $2.25 DC 7,810 190 5.28 USAGI YOJIMBO #66 $2.99 DAR 7,484 191 5.18 SWEATSHOP #3 $2.95 DC 7,342 192 4.99 TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES #10 (Note Price) $3.95 MIR 7,073 193 4.99 UNCLE SCROOGE #319 $6.95 GEM 7,073 194 4.98 QUEEN & COUNTRY #16 (MR) $2.99 ONI 7,058 195 4.96 GRENDEL GOD & DEVIL #5 (Of 10) (MR) $3.50 DAR 7,030 196 4.95 TERMINATOR 3 BEFORE THE RISE #1 (MR) $5.95 BEC 7,016 197 4.93 KORE #2 $2.95 IMA 6,988 198 4.92 REX MUNDI #4 $2.95 IMA 6,973 199 4.85 BATMAN #615 $2.25 DC 6,874 200 4.83 OH MY GODDESS #98 PHANTOM RACER (3 Of 4) $2.99 DAR 6,846 201 4.78 KNIGHTS O/T DINNER TABLE #80 $3.99 KZR 6,775 202 4.73 NOBLE CAUSES EXTENDED FAMILY ONE-SHOT $6.95 IMA 6,704 203 4.69 CLOCKMAKER #4 (Of 12) $2.50 IMA 6,647 204 4.58 MYTHSTALKERS #3 $2.95 IMA 6,492 205 4.55 KODT MINI-SERIES PX SP VOL 1 #3 (Of 3)* $2.99 KZR 6,449 206 4.33 BLADE O/T IMMORTAL #79 WIND & CRANE (MR) $2.99 DAR 6,137 207 4.29 CEREBUS #289 & #290 $4.50 AAR 6,080 208 4.27 SONIC THE HEDGEHOG #124 $2.19 ARC 6,052 209 4.18 SCOOBY DOO #73 $2.25 DC 5,925 210 3.89 GRRL SCOUTS WORK SUCKS #4 (Of 4) $2.95 IMA 5,514 211 3.82 HEIRS O/ETERNITY #2 (Of 5) $2.95 IMA 5,414 212 3.65 BLACKBURNE COVENANT #3 (Of 4) $2.99 DAR 5,173 213 3.49 SUPER MANGA BLAST #32 (MR) $5.99 DAR 4,947 214 3.42 CVO COVERT VAMPIRIC OPERATIONS (MR) $5.99 IDW 4,847 215 3.41 BEAR #1 $2.95 SLA 4,833 216 3.22 CANNON GOD EXAXXION #14 (MR) $3.50 DAR 4,564 217 3.22 WALT DISNEYS COMICS & STORIES #634 $6.95 GEM 4,564 218 2.86 LOVE FIGHTS #1 $2.99 ONI 4,054 219 2.85 PLANETARY READER $5.95 DC 4,039 220 2.83 MOTU VOL 2 #1* $2.95 IMA 4,011 221 2.59 TOO MUCH HOPELESS SAVAGES #1 (Of 4) $2.99 ONI 3,671 222 2.5 LOONEY TUNES #103 $2.25 DC 3,543 223 2.47 WARREN ELLIS SCARS #6 (Of 6) (MR) $3.50 AVA 3,501 224 2.41 ZEET #1 $2.95 SLA 3,416 225 2.41 ARCHIE #537 $2.19 ARC 3,416 226 2.33 ARTESIA AFIRE #1 (Of 6) (MR) $3.95 ARC 3,302 227 2.32 GLOOM COOKIE #16 (MR) $2.95 SLA 3,288 228 2.27 DEATHMASK #2 $2.99 FUT 3,217 229 2.26 ZEN #1 $2.95 ZEN 3,203 230 2.18 BETTY & VERONICA #189 $2.19 ARC 3,090 231 2.1 KODT ILLUSTRATED #23 $2.99 KZR 2,976 232 2.08 NIGHTMARES & FAIRY TALES #5 $2.95 SLA 2,948 233 2.06 BETTY #127 $2.19 ARC 2,920 234 2.02 VERONICA #141 $2.19 ARC 2,863 235 2 SABRINA VOL 2 #46 $2.19 ARC 2,835 236 1.99 MUCHA LUCHA #3 (Of 3) $2.25 DC 2,821 237 1.92 POPBOT #4 (MR) $7.99 IDW 2,721 238 1.91 UNCANNY X-MEN #424 $2.25 MAR 2,707 239 1.87 BETTY & VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #116 $3.59 ARC 2,650 240 1.83 CARTOON CARTOONS #19 $2.25 DC 2,594 241 1.83 ARCHIE & FRIENDS #72 $2.19 ARC 2,594 242 1.8 SIDEKICKS SUPER SUMMER FUN SP ONE-SHOT $2.99 ONI 2,551 243 1.79 GHOST I/T SHELL 2 MAN/MACHINE INTERFACE #2 NEW PRTG $3.50 DAR 2,537 244 1.79 METALLIX #5 $3.50 FUT 2,537 245 1.73 ALICE IN SEXLAND EXTREME #2 (A) $3.50 ERO 2,452 246 1.72 NINJA HIGH SCHOOL #106 $3.50 ANT 2,438 247 1.67 PALS N GALS DOUBLE DIGEST #76 $3.59 ARC 2,367 248 1.66 AKIKO #50 $3.50 SIR 2,353 249 1.66 BETTY & VERONICA DIGEST #139 $2.39 ARC 2,353 250 1.62 NEW X-MEN #141 $2.25 MAR 2,296 251 1.61 ARCHIE DIGEST #199 $2.39 ARC 2,282 252 1.59 JUGHEADS DOUBLE DIGEST #95 $3.59 ARC 2,254 253 1.57 HOT MOMS #1 (A) $3.95 ERO 2,225 254 1.56 WOLVERINE #1 $2.25 MAR 2,211 255 1.53 JUGHEAD #151 $2.19 ARC 2,169 256 1.45 BLACK TIDE #6* $2.95 ANG 2,055 257 1.45 TITANS/YOUNG JUSTICE GRADUATION DAY #2 (Of 3) $2.50 DC 2,055 258 1.42 GENUS #59 (A) (Note Price) $3.50 RAD 2,013 259 1.42 CAVEWOMAN HE SAID SHE SAID ONE-SHOT (RES) $3.50 AMR 2,013 260 1.4 ARCHIE MYSTERIES #28 $2.19 ARC 1,984 261 1.39 ULTIMATE X-MEN #33 $2.25 MAR 1,970 262 1.37 FLASH #198 $2.25 DC 1,942 263 1.34 LURID #3 (MR) $2.99 IDW 1,899 264 1.33 MIKE HOFFMANS LOST WORLDS O/FANTASY & SCI-FI #1 $2.95 AMR 1,885 265 1.32 CRIMINAL MACABRE CAL MCDONALD MYSTERY #1 (OF 5) $2.99 DAR 1,871 266 1.32 JUGHEAD W/ARCHIE DIGEST #184 $2.39 ARC 1,871 267 1.31 RAIJIN COMICS #25 (MR) $4.95 GUT 1,857 268 1.31 RAIJIN COMICS #26 (MR) $4.95 GUT 1,857 269 1.3 RAIJIN COMICS #27 (MR) $4.95 GUT 1,843 270 1.28 RAIJIN COMICS #28 (MR) $4.95 GUT 1,814 271 1.27 ALRAUNE #6 (A) $3.50 ERO 1,800 272 1.21 HALO & SPROCKET #4 $2.95 SLA 1,715 273 1.19 VAMPI OMEGA #1 PROTOTYPE ED $4.95 HAR 1,687 274 1.18 SUPERMAN #193 $2.25 DC 1,672 275 1.18 BATMAN #614 $2.25 DC 1,672 276 1.16 PS238 #2 $2.99 DOR 1,644 277 1.16 NEOTOPIA #5 $3.95 ANT 1,644 278 1.13 ULTIMATES #10 $2.25 MAR 1,602 279 1.1 COUNTER OPS #2 (Of 5) $3.95 ANT 1,559 280 1.08 LITTLE SCROWLIE #2 $2.95 SLA 1,531 281 1 LUFTWAFFE 1946 #10 $5.95 ANT 1,417 282 0.98 WARREN ELLIS SCARS WRAP CVR #6 (Of 6) (MR) $3.95 AVA 1,389 283 0.97 GHOST I/T SHELL 2 MAN/MACHINE INTERFACE #4 (MR) $3.50 DAR 1,375 284 0.96 FINDER #31 (MR) $2.95 LIG 1,361 285 0.96 INCREDIBLE HULK ACE ED #1 $13.99 WIZ 1,361 286 0.94 BIG O PART 4 #4 (Of 4) $3.50 VIZ 1,332 287 0.93 TRANSFORMERS GENERATION ONE VOL 2 #1 (Of 6) $2.95 DRE 1,318 288 0.93 HERO DOUBLE FEATURE $4.95 DC 1,318 289 0.91 SHOUJO #1 $5.95 ANT 1,290 290 0.9 SNAPDRAGONS #3 $2.99 DOR 1,276 291 0.9 ARKHAM ASYLUM LIVING HELL #1 (Of 6) $2.50 DC 1,276 292 0.89 BIPOLAR #4 $2.95 ALT 1,261 293 0.89 FADE FROM BLUE #7 $1.50 SEC 1,261 294 0.88 SOUL ASSASSIN ONE-SHOT $3.50 AER 1,247 295 0.88 SPIRIT O/T AMAZON #2 (RES) (MR) $2.95 NWS 1,247 296 0.79 MONSTER CLUB #6 $3.50 CMX 1,120 297 0.79 PETEY #1 $2.95 BAB 1,120 298 0.78 REHD #0 $2.50 ANT 1,106 299 0.78 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #53 $2.25 MAR 1,106 300 0.78 CLASSIC ILLUS JR #519 PAUL BUNYAN $3.99 JAC 1,106
Notes on this chart:
Some titles have been truncated or abbreviated for space reasons.
Publisher abbreviations have also been used.
MAR = Marvel
DAR = Dark Horse
DRE = Dreamwave
IMA = Image
FUT = Future Comics
CAR = Cartoon Books
HAR = Harris
CRO = CrossGen
BON = Bongo
TKP = Tokyo Pop
These estimates are based on ICv2 estimates of comic sales by Diamond North America during June, 2003. They do not include sales made by Diamond UK, orders on these titles placed after the end of June, or copies purchased by Diamond but held in inventory at the end of June.
Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, CrossGen, and Image distribute 100% of their comic store orders through Diamond. Some other publishers distribute directly to stores or through other distributors and as a result this analysis may underestimate their sales.
Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, Image, and CrossGen distribute some of their titles through channels other than comic specialty stores, e.g., newsstands and bookstores. These quantity estimates do not reflect distribution through those channels.
Most of the titles on this chart are also distributed to Europe by Diamond UK, which can account for significant sales for the publisher, ranging from 3-20% of the US numbers. Sales by Diamond UK are not included in the numbers above.
One other factor to consider is that sales through Diamond and other comic distributors are non-returnable to retailers. That means that there is a considerable unknown percentage of books unsold at the retailer level, probably amounting to 5-20% of sales.
For the top 50 graphic novels actual orders in May, see "Top 50 Graphic Novels Actual--May 2003".
For the top 300 comic actual orders in May, see "Top 300 Comics Actual--May 2003."
For an overview and analsysis of the actual May orders and an explanation of the transition to our new reporting, see "Wolverine Debuts On Top In May" and "ICv2 Kicks Off New Top 300 Reporting."
For links to all previous Top 300 Comic and Top 50 Graphic Novel articles (going back over three years, including preorder analysis through March 2003 and actual order analysis beginning March 2003) see: "ICv2's Top 300 Comics and Top 50 GNs Index."
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