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osim
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jetset
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Croatia
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 20:18:05
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znaš kaj markose?tvoj je forum i možeš radit što te volja i možeš izbacit koga hoceš.meni ni iz džepa ni u džep.a u tvom džepu ce sigurno ostati tisucu-dvije kuna manje jer cu ih radije potrošiti u more comicsu nego u tvom libellusu.pa kad tako napravi njih još 10 zagriženih stripofila kojima ceš se sa svojom arogancijom prije ili kasnije zamjeriti pitat ceš se gdje su ti klijenti.U MORE COMICSU,kolega.bok |
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 04/08/2005 : 17:40:20
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quote: Originally posted by jetset
znaš kaj markose?tvoj je forum i možeš radit što te volja i možeš izbacit koga hoceš.meni ni iz džepa ni u džep.a u tvom džepu ce sigurno ostati tisucu-dvije kuna manje jer cu ih radije potrošiti u more comicsu nego u tvom libellusu.pa kad tako napravi njih još 10 zagriženih stripofila kojima ceš se sa svojom arogancijom prije ili kasnije zamjeriti pitat ceš se gdje su ti klijenti.U MORE COMICSU,kolega.bok
Znas sta pametnjakovicu? Striparnica Libellus nije moja, cak ni izdavacka kuca nije moja, sto se lako provjeri https://sudreg.pravosudje.hr/SUDREG3/SudregController?subMbs=080501772&act=tempod . Ja sa striparnicom nemam nikakve veze niti koristi od nje, dapace, imam samo stetu jer me se dovodi u vezu s njom i time se raspredaju raznorazne teorije zavjere. Dakle, ostavi svoj novac gdje god hoces, to je tvoje pravo, ali nemoj mene mijesati u to, jer ja s tim nemam nikakve veze. bok.
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osim
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Vatican City
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Posted - 04/08/2005 : 19:52:39
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pogledajte kako se zove ovaj topic: MALI RENDZER-ORIGINALI. Zato vas sve molim da u ovom topicu pisete iskljucivo o onome sto je vezano za naslov. Za ostalo molim vas otvorite novi topic. HVALA! |
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---dp---
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osim
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Vatican City
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 09:27:03
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hel, pa stvarno, ovde ako ima 2-3 reply-a vezana za temu, a sve ostalo neka prepucavanja, i tako vec godinu dana, a meni na moja pitanja niko ne odgovara, i to ne samo u ovom topicu |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 10:54:19
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To samo govori koliko Tim i Dasti, Kit teller i ostali zanimaju danasnje citatelje.
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jetset
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 12:11:33
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ok,markose,cemu da se prepucavamo uzalud,nema smisla.malo smo naglijih karaktera pa se uvijek neš prepiremo,ali to ovdje nikog ne zanima kad su rasprave o stripovima.nudim primirje... što se kita tellera tice imam samo lms u kolekciji i cak ih nisam baš sve niti procitao jer su neke epizode(prve pogotovo) meni osobno nikakve...a ono poslije i nije toliko loše i može se svariti.ipak usporedujuci to sa mikijem ili blekom razina profesionalizma je daleko,daleko na k. tellerovoj strani. |
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---dp---
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osim
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Vatican City
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 16:18:04
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pa sad, ne znam kako ovo da razuem? istina je da Tim i Dati i Kit Teller verovatno manje zanimaju ljude od Zagora ili mozda Texa, ali sigurno jos manje ljudi danas zanimaju Dostojevski ili James Joyse, pa da li onda treba da pricamo samo o onome sto najvise ljudi voli? Necu da poredim Tima i Datija ili Kita sa drugim junacima, ali mislim da smo sto puta ponovili da su ukusi individualni. Svi znamo da pre 20-ak godina Ken Parker je bio ubedljivo najnepopularniji junak na ovim prostorima, za razliku od Bleka, Kapetana Mikija, Kita Tellera... A naravno da se radi o neuporedivo boljem stripu.Sta da je neko tada razmisljao "ocigledno da KP zanima jako malo ljudi, hajde da prestanemo da ga izdajemo"... A i sa druge strane, nije li ovaj forum i prvestveno namenjen Bonellijevim junacima, ne vidim da negde pise da je ovo forum namenjen Zagoru. Ako grseim, uredu, pricacemo samo o Zagoru...
quote: Originally posted by Markos
To samo govori koliko Tim i Dasti, Kit teller i ostali zanimaju danasnje citatelje.
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Markos
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 16:56:19
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Krivo si me shvatio, ja ti samo odgovaram na tvoje (opravdano) kukanje kako ti nitko ne odgovara na pitanja, a ne ulazim u rasprave o kvalitetu ovog ili onog stripa a pogotovo ne o tome o kojim junacima trebamo pricati a o kojima ne.
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alen
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 17:51:23
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Jedno on-topic pitanje:
Prvi LMS reprint Kit Tellera je n.697 Lažni žig. Da li je to i prvi Kit Teller iz regularne serije s uobicajenim upoznavanjem likova, ili je bilo sjec-sjec, ili je napravljen Mocvara Mo-Hi-La dribling?
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---dp---
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 19:59:08
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Jeste, to je prvi Kit Teler u italijanskoj seriji, ali nije prvi u LMS/ZS, to jest "Dnevnik" to nije radio sistematski (kao ni kod Zagora ni Teksa). |
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osim
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Vatican City
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 20:18:21
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Izvini, zaista sam te pogresno shvatio, svako je na ponesto osetljiv, ja kao sto vidis na price o kitu telleru... sve je Ok
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Krivo si me shvatio, ja ti samo odgovaram na tvoje (opravdano) kukanje kako ti nitko ne odgovara na pitanja, a ne ulazim u rasprave o kvalitetu ovog ili onog stripa a pogotovo ne o tome o kojim junacima trebamo pricati a o kojima ne.
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osim
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Vatican City
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 20:19:40
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pogledaj pod popisima, tamo o ovome imas dosta detaljnije
quote: Originally posted by alen
Jedno on-topic pitanje:
Prvi LMS reprint Kit Tellera je n.697 Lažni žig. Da li je to i prvi Kit Teller iz regularne serije s uobicajenim upoznavanjem likova, ili je bilo sjec-sjec, ili je napravljen Mocvara Mo-Hi-La dribling?

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alen
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 21:48:41
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Imam ja i svoje popise i ovaj izvrsni Osimov usporedni i znam da je po tom popisu 697.Lažni žig reprint prve epizode, ali me zanima da li je to nesjeckana i neprepravljana prva epizoda. Spomenuo sam Mocvara Mo-Hi-La dribling jer je tamo Dnevnik uzeo prvu Zagorovu epizodu i napravio radnju kao da se Zagor i Ciko vec poznaju. Izmišljali su i krojili dijaloge.
A postavio sam to pitanje za Tellera jer nisam nikada procitao njegovu prvu epizodu, pa me zanima da li je to ta. Puno lakše (i jeftinije) je nju nabaviti nago ZS 54.
Osim ako Ludens ne pocne izdavati Tellera. :))))))))))))))))))
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sdragan@
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Western Sahara
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 21:59:50
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Ja odavno posedujem LMS 697 "Lazni zig", nikada ga nisam stigao procitati,nisam znao da je to reprint prvog Kit Telera,eto sta znaci imati internet...
Sutra ga moram naci pa natenane da ga procitam za vikend |
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alen
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 22:00:47
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quote: Originally posted by sdragan@
Ja odavno posedujem LMS 697 "Lazni zig", nikada ga nisam stigao procitati,nisam znao da je to reprint prvog Kit Telera,eto sta znaci imati internet...
Sutra ga moram naci pa natenane da ga procitam za vikend
I onda mi javi je li to to ili je Dnevnik .
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---dp---
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 22:07:50
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Pa to da li su krojili i isecali ili ne, ne mozes znati dok ne uporedis sa originalnim italijanskim stripom, ali ne znam kako ces to uciniti, osim ako je prica i kod originala i kod "Dnevnika" smestena na striktnih 98 stranica. |
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sdragan@
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 22:11:04
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quote: Originally posted by ---dp---
Pa to da li su krojili i isecali ili ne, ne mozes znati dok ne uporedis sa originalnim italijanskim stripom, ali ne znam kako ces to uciniti, osim ako je prica i kod originala i kod "Dnevnika" smestena na striktnih 98 stranica.
Bas sam to hteo reci Alenu,ne verujem da je nesto prekrajano ako je striktan broj stranica,nesto slicno kao kod Kom.Marka,onda je tesko nesto previse majmunisati i prekrajati... |
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alen
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 22:16:23
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quote: Originally posted by sdragan@
quote: Originally posted by ---dp---
Pa to da li su krojili i isecali ili ne, ne mozes znati dok ne uporedis sa originalnim italijanskim stripom, ali ne znam kako ces to uciniti, osim ako je prica i kod originala i kod "Dnevnika" smestena na striktnih 98 stranica.
Bas sam to hteo reci Alenu,ne verujem da je nesto prekrajano ako je striktan broj stranica,nesto slicno kao kod Kom.Marka,onda je tesko nesto previse majmunisati i prekrajati...
Da li mi pricamo o istom Dnevniku? Valjda znate da je kod njih sve moguce . Mene samo zanima da li se na pocetku te epizode pojavi golobradi momak u uniformi i kaže: Dobar dan, ja sam Kit Teler .
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sdragan@
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Western Sahara
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 22:21:51
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-alen- da li mi pricamo o istom Dnevniku? Valjda znate da je kod njih sve moguce. Mene samo zanima da li se na pocetku te epizode pojavi golobradi momak u uniformi i kaže: Dobar dan, ja sam Kit Teler.
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---dp---
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 23:31:33
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E pa, to vec ne znam, da je imam makar skeniranu, bilo bi lako... inace, vec dugo imam nameru da skupim celog Kit Telera, on mi je uz Zagora, Dilana i Martija najbolji Bonelijev strip (ne racunam Kena Perkera, on je posebna kategorija koja je daleko iznad bilo cega sto lici na Boneli iako ga je Boneli ustvari izdavao) |
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miha
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Posted - 06/08/2005 : 08:51:44
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Na prvoj slici jedan mladic, od nekih 15 godina, na crnom konju, jaše kroz krajolik koji lici na stepu ili pustinju u pratnji brkatog starca. U starca brkovi pola metra a surla veca od Bob Rockove. Mladic u uniformi lici pomalo na Kapetana Mikija. Sliku prati natpis: Nekoliko dana docnije, dvojica prijatelja, prolaze kroz planinu. Gore iznad te slike nalazi se naslov Covek sa poternice i ilustracija, na ilustraciji vidimo tri indijanca sa noževima koji love neke likove. Ti likovi su tri silhuete koje beže kroz izlaz iz pecine, ispostavice se da su to rendžeri.
-Brkati jahac: Hiljadu mi kockarnica sve me kosti bole -Mladic: Hm... uskoro cemo se odmarati -I to mi je odmaranje: ležanje na tvrdoj i vlažnoj zemlji sa oblacima insekata... i probuditi s kakvom zmijom zvecarkom ispred nosem. -Cuti Frenki, možda cemo imati više srece... pogledaj onamo -Hiljadu mi podešenih kocki, ranc. To bar obecava dobru šolju kafe, a ako nam padne u deo i kakva prava meka postelja... Hm, da nije to kakav napušten ranc? -Ne govori koješta
Dvojica jahaca galopiraju do poseda i zaustavljaju se. Kad Frenki pozove ljude, dva metka profijucu pored njegovih ogromnih ušiju skidajuci mu šešir sa glave
-Frenki se poceše iza uha: Pa to nije odgovor koji sam ocekivao -Na zemlju! Leži Frenki -A ja sam ocekivao šolju kafe -Ovo je zaista cudan docek Rendžeri se sakrivaju iza cesme
-Frenki: Znaš, nisu prepoznali naše uniforme i... Sad cu ja to da sredim. Hej ljudi stanite...Mi smo rendžeri, evo naše zvezde... Emblem od koga podrhtavaju zlocinci a pošteni ga cene iznad svega.
CING. Metak buši zvezdu koju Frenki drži u rukama.
-Frenki skace u zaklon: Jao, pošteni su ovde prava retkost -Mladic: Ne drži govore, saslušaj me -Frenki: Pretvorio sam se u uši -Mladic: Mislim da imamo posla samo sa jednim protivnikom. Drži ga pod vatrom a ja cu se privuci kuci -Frenki: Hm... u redu... Jesi li Kit? -Kit: Hajde daj muziku
I akcija pocinje
Ovu pricu sam našao na kit.teller@gmail.com. Nije mi poznato ko je pisao scenario za ovaj strip, no mogao bi se kladiti da je to bio sin Žan Luka, jer tata Serdo je u to vreme više vremna provodio pišuci tekstove za rendžera iz Arizone, za Teksa Vilera, za Vilera Kita, i za Kita Karsona, i Tiger Džeka. Prevod koji je uradio Dnevnik je veoma sažet, mnogo sažetiji i tecniji (dinamicniji) nego kasnije u reprintima, gde su krenuli sa gustobesednošcu, toliko znacajnu za Italijane. Italijani uopšte mnogo pricaju. I mlataraju rukama pri tome. Veoma pricljiv narod...
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