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alexts
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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 23:01:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovaj Betmen je dobar i rado bih ga čitao (kao i svakog).

Sviđa mi se što u američkom stripu prepoznajem vraćanje klasičnom neprevaziđenom stilu.

To znači, čak i kad se radi kompjuterski:
- nove generacije digitalnih tušera shvataju da fotošop ima čitavu paletu četkica i da crtež može da izgleda kao istuširan sa klasičnim četkicama ili perima, lepim linijama promenjive debljine i masnim crnim senkama i linijama. Ne mora da bude sterilan, čist sa neprirodnim čvrstim linijama konstantne debljine, sa minimumom senčenja, kao što se radilo do skoro.
-nove generacije digitalnih kolorista rade prirodniji kolor, bez nepotrebnih šljaštećih prelivajućih efekata, kao da je sve metalizirano i sjajno, kao što se radilo do skoro.
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Mr. Bushido
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Croatia
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 00:49:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Slijedeći strip na redu je Scalphunter. Scenarist je Gerry Conway, a crtač Dick Ayers.
















Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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REJS
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 11:55:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit REJS's Homepage  Send REJS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo i nije tako lose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5qbvnqMClk

Izbacite Facepalm sprecite sukobe,givnite sansu miru !!!


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King Warrior
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 11:55:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poprilicno sam se zaistio superherojskih stripova 70tih godina.
Ovo je tako nesto, manje-vise.
Ovaj tip nije pravi Indijanac vec bijelac? Tja, zasto li nisam iznenadjen.
Vizuelno stvarno izgleda kao losa Conanova kopija.
Neka hvala, prije 15 godina mozda, danas ne.
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REJS
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 12:19:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit REJS's Homepage  Send REJS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo i nije tako lose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5qbvnqMClk

Izbacite Facepalm sprecite sukobe,givnite sansu miru !!!


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mladjo
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 13:18:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Čini se ok ali mislim da ga ne bih kupovao:))

COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT
an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero

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alexts
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 13:26:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo zaista nije superherojski strip, nego vestern.

Slažem se da za današnjeg čitaoca deluje blago prevaziđeno i da verovatno nije izdržao test vremena (premda je solidan strip) da bi ostao upamćen. Za razliku od Hexa, npr.

Dick Ayers je solidan crtač stare garde i sasvim je dobro crtao Hexa u Strip Zabavniku. Ovde ga tušira Villamonte, koji ostavlja veliki pečat na crtež, a na Hexu je bio Tony DeZuniga koji je vrhunski tušer, pa je to bila još bolja kombinacija.

King Warrior ovo naziva superherojskim stripom jer je glavni lik (a i ostali - indijanci) jako mišićav. Tih godina su američki autori (koji su radili za Marvel/DC) imali običaj da crtaju u marvelovskom stilu sve (jer je to prolazilo) od horora, preko vesterna i samuraja do istorijskih tema. Negde se preterivanje sa takvim stilom ne čini prikladnim; između ostalog, zato Hex i jeste bio uspešniji, iako je i on crtan pomenutim stilom, ali u blažoj varijanti - sam Hex i drugi likovi nisu crtani prenaglašeno kao bilderi.

Inače Ayers koji je crtao superheroje imao je smisla i za vesterne tj crtanje konja, vestern scenografiju itd.

Edited by - alexts on 02/05/2011 13:28:41
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d.r.p
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 13:28:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send d.r.p a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne sviđa mi se,prevaziđeno.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 13:39:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexts


King Warrior ovo naziva superherojskim stripom jer je glavni lik (a i ostali - indijanci) jako mišićav.


Stvarno?
Eto, nisam znao, dobro da si mi objasnio.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 14:56:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovdje to možda nije toliko očito, ali u proteklim epizodama je Ayers prvenstveno Ke-Woh-No-Taya crtao pomalo nabildano, kako vi kažete "superherojski", kako bi izgledao impozantnije naspram protivnika. Strip jest malo over-the-top, zato mu takav prikaz likova odgovara.

Ayers je jedan majstor koji je ispekao zanat crtajući uglavnom westerne i ratne stripove. On je tvorac originalnog Ghost Ridera, koji je bio western junak.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 18:27:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

quote:
Originally posted by alexts


King Warrior ovo naziva superherojskim stripom jer je glavni lik (a i ostali - indijanci) jako mišićav.


Stvarno?
Eto, nisam znao, dobro da si mi objasnio.



Znam ja da ti znaš šta pričaš i zašto - moj komentar i nije bio namenjen tebi.

Hteo sam da naglasim da bi nešto bilo avion, nije dovoljno samo da liči na avion.

Edited by - alexts on 02/05/2011 18:28:24
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austin
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 18:44:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send austin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
crtezh krshina....otaljano i to loshe, svi deluju ukocheno i neprirodno ....moze da prodje ko malo bolji bonelli, prica...ne znam dovoljno da procenim
da li je dobar crtac ili ne...tek ovakvih je bilo na stotine..pa i boljih

Dr. Evil: Quid pro-quo, Mr. Powers. Austin Powers: Yes, squid pro row.
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alexts
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 01:06:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by austin

crtezh krshina....otaljano i to loshe, svi deluju ukocheno i neprirodno ....moze da prodje ko malo bolji bonelli, prica...ne znam dovoljno da procenim
da li je dobar crtac ili ne...tek ovakvih je bilo na stotine..pa i boljih



Nije otaljano, jeste neprirodno, ne može Ejers mnogo bolje, prosečan je on crtač, zato i nije poznatiji, jeste takvih zanatlija bilo puno, on je vrlo stara generacija (1924) i poštovan od kolega.


Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandoes
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 01:15:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Njegov Sgt. Fury, kojeg je radio prema fenomenalnim scenarijima Garyja Friedricha je klasik samo takav.

Kažem ja, Ayers je jedan od velikana američkog stripa.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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austin
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 12:24:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send austin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovaj sgt.fury stvarno izgleda dosta bolje, dal sto nisu svi prenapucani , a i na ovim pane;lima nema akcije pa sve izgleda dosta prirodnije.

Dr. Evil: Quid pro-quo, Mr. Powers. Austin Powers: Yes, squid pro row.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 04/05/2011 : 23:55:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Slijedeći strip na redu je Batwoman. Scenarist je Greg Rucka, a crtač J. H. Williams III.










Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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alexts
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 00:04:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kupljeno.

Premda ne mirišem previše taj preterani realizam-detaljizam, deluje kao dobar strip.
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Paka01
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 00:06:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo je ona Batwoman iz serijala 52? Nikako mi nije bila draga dok sam to čita...

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa
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alexts
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 00:08:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Šta, ovo je već 52. serijal!? Nisam čitao ni prethodnih 51.
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Paka01
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 00:09:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52_(comics)

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 02:12:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52_(comics)


Mali ispravak linka.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52_%28comics%29

Inače, rekao bih da se Batwoman ponešto promijenila nakon 52. To nam je bilo tek neko upoznavanje.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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sandyboy
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 09:51:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sandyboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Svaka stranica ima ovako 'nekonvencionalan' layout kadrova? :)

Ne izgleda loše, definitivno me privuklo pročitati...
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 11:13:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sandyboy

Svaka stranica ima ovako 'nekonvencionalan' layout kadrova? :)


Kada Williams crta, da. To je njegov zaštitni znak, taj nekonvencionalni razmještaj i dizajn kadrova.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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King Warrior
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 11:21:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ma nema sanse
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Paka01
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 12:48:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Super mi je način slaganja kadrova, al generalno mi se ne sviđa baš strip :/

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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