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cronos six
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 12:08:42
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Ovo je isključivo subjektivni post, napisan na temelju osobnog iskustva, bez ikakvih loših primisli i stavova o izdavačima i svima koji razmišljaju drugačije.
Ova dva Arkonina izdanja MM & NN superbooka ne uzimam jer ih imam u izvrsnom LL izdanju, pa čemu? Isto vrijedi i za najavljen NN grande ristampa, kao i za sve serijale koji će se možda izdavati, a koji su kod LL-a već daleko dogurali.
Isto vrijedi i za Agarthi-izdanja Magičnog, Martina itd., jer ne vidim nikakav smisao u dupliranju ili utrostručavanju bilo kojih stripova.
Pored kompletiranog SA Torpeda i Rustemagićevog albuma na 100 stranica i s Eisnerovim predgovorom iz druge polovine 80-ih i to smatram zaključenim, i više ni lipe neću potrošiti na Torpeda.
Uvijek razmišljam ovako: LL izdanja (baš kao i Fibrina, HC Belog puta, BG i SA albumi itd.) koštaju koliko koštaju, često poprilično - osobito intehrali - ali nude najbolji mogući kvalitet, pa bez obzira koliko ih platio znam da imam odlično urađena i trajna izdanja. Za 5 ili 10 godina neću se ni sjećati cijena, ali ću imati stripove koji izgledaju kao i na dan kupnje.
Ovo vrijedi i za bolje odrađena SC izdanja DW-a, PP-a, Padore, možda Malagme, Akrone, Agarthija itd., s kvalitetnijim papirom, plastificiranim koricama itd.
S druge strane, odabir SC-izdanja bilo kojeg izdavača dosad je završavao tako da su se ista nakon nekog, kraćeg ili dužeg vremena počela habati, deformirati, raspadati i(li) mijenjati boju, pa bih iste zamijenio HC-om čim bi izašli. Odnosno, ako bih za neki kupljeni strip vjerovao da sam prošao bolje jer sam ga jeftinije platio, poslije bi se uvijek pokazalo da sam bio u krivu. Pa se naposljetku uvijek odlučujem za skuplje a trajno, a ne jeftinije ali privremeno.
Ovo je samo moje mišljenje a ne nekakav polemički tekst, bez bilo kakve uvrede spomenutim izdavačima. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Imrahil
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 12:29:08
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Slažem se, i meni dosta SC-izdanja i nakon više godina izgleda odlično, pod uvjetom da ih nakon čitanja stavim na policu i više ne diram. Ali čišćenja, preslagivanja, brisanja prašine itd. sve dovode u pitanje, osim ako ne radim vrlo oprezno i "u rukavicama".
Stvar je samo u tome da ću između SC i HC izdanja nekog stripa, osobito umjetnički ili osobno relevantnijeg i vrjednijeg, uvijek izabrati HC. Eto recimo, da danas kupujem Autocestu sunca, opet bih kupio Fibrino izdanje a ne ono Besne kobile. No ponavljam, ovo je isključivo moj stav. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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wolf
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 12:31:50
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quote: Originally posted by Imrahil
Kako li meni SC stripovi izgledaju isto i posle 5 god, da mi je znati    Ali dobro, svako ima svoj ukus 
Imaš ljudi koji strip pročitaju jednom i onda s njim trajno u vrećicu/policu/ormar/kutiju. A ima i onih koji ga pročitaju i više puta, posude nekome i sl. Prvima i drugima strip sigurno neće jednako izgledati nakon nekoliko godina.
Što se tiče predmetnih stripova, neću ih uzimati samo zato jer već imam Libellusove, pa bi mi dupliciranje uz ove cijene bilo znatna investicija. Ipak, tko nema Libellusove ili mu je previše izdvojiti za iznose koje ovi postižu na aukcijama ovo je svakako povoljnija investicija. |
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kasper
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 13:05:47
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Juce nabavih ovo, iako nisam planirao. Imao sam stresan dan, pa me shoping opustio . Stampa dobra, sken, jedino su trebali da stave fortmat - visinu stripa ko ostali izdavaci. Ne samo sto vise volim kad je sve uklopljeno/simetricno, nego ovaj strip tesko staje u moj Boneli ostavu. Prva polovina stripa je jako dobra, ostatak cu valjda danas procitati. Uzimao sam par puta od brata ovaj strip (inace on ima sva NN izdanja sa ovijeh prostora), i nesto mi se nije citao. Kako bilo, strip me opustio, sto je bio cilj    . Ova godina ce biti kod mene godina NN, bas sam ovih dana krenuo da citam NN od broja 0. |
Edited by - kasper on 14/04/2012 00:20:03 |
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feniks
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 13:39:47
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Mislim da je ovo odlican potez izdavaca, ako ova dva izdanja (koja privlace i ljubitelje MM a ne samo NN) ne mogu da se prodaju u dovoljnom broju, onda nema smisla uopste izdavati NN u Srbiji jer trziste ne postoji. Ja imam LL izdanja ovih stripova i da su 500 dinara ne bih ih kupio- za 1000 dinara kupicu druge stripove. Ono sto ne mogu da shvatim da ljudi nemaju ovaj strip a opet kukaju na cijenu WTF???
Zalosno je sve ovo |
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jaki
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 13:45:14
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
S druge strane, odabir SC-izdanja bilo kojeg izdavača dosad je završavao tako da su se ista nakon nekog, kraćeg ili dužeg vremena počela habati, deformirati, raspadati i(li) mijenjati boju, pa bih iste zamijenio HC-om čim bi izašli.
jebate,pa šta ti radiš sa tim svojim stripovima? 90% mojih sc stripova izgleda isto kao i kad sam ih kupio(da,čitao sam ih). a i ako se malo pohabaju s vremenom šta onda?zar stripove ne kupujemo da bi smo ih čitali? ili sam ja naivan? |
Ja sam fetišist papira! |
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 14:35:23
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
Uvijek razmišljam ovako: LL izdanja (baš kao i Fibrina, HC Belog puta, BG i SA albumi itd.) koštaju koliko koštaju, često poprilično - osobito intehrali - ali nude najbolji mogući kvalitet, pa bez obzira koliko ih platio znam da imam odlično urađena i trajna izdanja. Za 5 ili 10 godina neću se ni sjećati cijena, ali ću imati stripove koji izgledaju kao i na dan kupnje.
Ovo vrijedi i za bolje odrađena SC izdanja DW-a, PP-a, Padore, možda Malagme, Akrone, Agarthija itd., s kvalitetnijim papirom, plastificiranim koricama itd.
S druge strane, odabir SC-izdanja bilo kojeg izdavača dosad je završavao tako da su se ista nakon nekog, kraćeg ili dužeg vremena počela habati, deformirati, raspadati i(li) mijenjati boju, pa bih iste zamijenio HC-om čim bi izašli. Odnosno, ako bih za neki kupljeni strip vjerovao da sam prošao bolje jer sam ga jeftinije platio, poslije bi se uvijek pokazalo da sam bio u krivu. Pa se naposljetku uvijek odlučujem za skuplje a trajno, a ne jeftinije ali privremeno.
Ovo je samo moje mišljenje a ne nekakav polemički tekst, bez bilo kakve uvrede spomenutim izdavačima.
bez ikakve uvrede tebi ali sta je sa nama kojima su SC stripovi ocuvani dugo dugo vremena i sto su nam HC pohabani i prebledeli a prilicno se "humano" odnosimo prema njima
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Imrahil
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Dr. Zistis
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 15:54:47
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Kupio...stripovi odlicno izgledaju,otisak i prevod tkdj. dobri. Kako Kasper gore rece,cini se da ce i meni ova godina biti u znaku NN. Yuhuuuuuuuuuu!! 
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night
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 19:38:47
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Uzeo - preporučujem. Sviđa mi se i prevod i obrada stripa. I vredi svaki dinar. Momci iz Arkone, samo napred. Odvajam pare za vaša izdanja. |
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legaz
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 21:50:34
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quote: Originally posted by night
Uzeo - preporučujem. Sviđa mi se i prevod i obrada stripa. I vredi svaki dinar. Momci iz Arkone, samo napred. Odvajam pare za vaša izdanja.
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Junaci ne ubijaju one koji ne mogu da se brane. |
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qboy
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Posted - 13/04/2012 : 22:21:22
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Ja ne razmišljam puno o ovome - jednostavno sam od same najave odlučio da ću ih kupiti i to je to. Kad se samo sjetim koliko sam "balio" nad onim LL-ovim i kontao eh kad bi to neko objavio u sc ili malo jeftinije. Nema se šta raznišljatri fan sam MM-a a ni NN mi nije mrzak tako da je ovo za uzeti pod obavezno. Jedino moram sačekati da dođe kod Hogara ili Almira u stripovi.ba i to je to. Uzimaću i NN GR tako da puna podrška Arkoni. Momci samo naprijed.
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kasper
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Posted - 14/04/2012 : 00:22:46
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Zavrsih strip, prevod je mogao i bolje. Posebno me nerviraju zarezi, stavljaju se tamo gde ne treba u neverovatnim kolicinama, nema se osecaj za tacku i slicno. Steta. |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 14/04/2012 : 12:24:05
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@ jaki i Lord Vader89
Pa rekao sam da je ovo moj osobni stav temeljen na osobnom iskustvu, dakle bez ikakve namjere da nešto zagovaram ili ne znam što. Jednostavno, one stripove koji su mi iz ovih ili onih razloga važni, a samo takve i spremam jer ne čuvam sve, volim imati očuvane najbolje što je moguće, pri čemu ne mislim na pakiranja u vrećice i slično. Stripove koje spremam u pravilu i čitam više puta, pa još ako ih nekome i posudim naravno da su izloženi djelovanju i vremena i tuđih ruku. Kod HC-a znam da će i nakon o-ho-ho godina izgledati kao ispod čekića, dok mi se kod SC-a često po rubovima počnu raslojavati ili deformirati korice, hrpti/rikne bivaju okrhnuti itd. To je sve. Opet kažem da imam i mnoštvo odlično očuvanih SC-izdanja, ali ću kod mogućnosti izbora uvijek odabrati HC.  |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Posted - 14/04/2012 : 16:22:35
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quote: Originally posted by Tex Willer
quote: Originally posted by cronos six
@night sto naopacke?
Okreni monitor, opet si pio
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Juznjak! Tex Willer.
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Bruce Springsteen
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Posted - 14/04/2012 : 16:55:35
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quote: Originally posted by Tex Willer
quote: Originally posted by cronos six
@night sto naopacke?
Okreni monitor, opet si pio
Samo je malo zagrejan, da je više popio pitao bi gde su slike    |
Edited by - Bruce Springsteen on 14/04/2012 16:56:04 |
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