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acestroke
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 14:17:59
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by acestroke
Stvarno je ovo tragedija. Opet Colorado, opet manijak s mitraljezom (kao Columbine u 1999-oj godini). I naravno, sad ce politicari ovdje krivit ovaj film i citav Hollywood sa ovaj masakr. :(
A koga bi ti krivio? Ti bolje poznaješ Amerikance od nas...
Ja bi krivio one kompanije ovdje koje omogucavaju ovakvim idiotima da onako lagano nabave machine guns. Plus, jebi ga, ludost je strasna stvar: to se ne moze da predvidi. Ako nekom pukne film, zbog bilo kojeg razloga, i on onda odluci da poubija nevine ljudi zbog nikakvog razloga, kako se to uopste moze sprijecit? |
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acestroke
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 14:21:34
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quote: Originally posted by sandyboy
quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Užas! Što je najgore, vjerojatno će okriviti film jer se taj bolesnik obukao kao Bane. Super.
Uh, u Fox News su zbog toga vjerojatno doživjeli kolektivni orgazam.
  
hehehehehe, ovo sam i ja pomislio jutros kad sam cuo vijesti o ovome |
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Zagor12
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Billy_the_Kid
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acestroke
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 14:43:31
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Ne kužim to s Fox News, može mi netko objasniti?
Ovdje u USA Fox news je Republican news station. Republicans uvijek krive Democrats za ovakve slucajeve, kao ovo je liberalni kriminalni slucaj koji smo mi (Democrats) dozvolili sa svojim liberalnim nacinom zivota, dozvoljavamo previse nasilja u filmovima, na televiziji, itd.
Napravice od ovog politicko sranje koje ce u sledecih par mjeseci da upotrebe protiv Obame u presidential debates (protiv onog konzervativnog Romney-a).
Ali vidi ti mene... lupam o politici. Sorry. Necu vise. ;) |
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Zagor12
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ken2
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 15:04:27
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prestrašno, nemam riječi
što se fox newsa i republikanaca tiče, mislim da im je bolje da ne čačkaju tu temu, jer osnovni problem je dostupnost oružja, a ograničavanje oružja koče njihovi u drugim zemljama isto ima nasilja po tvu, ima ludih, kretena... ali oni eventualno mogu legalno nabavit nekakav pištolj ili lovačku pušku, a ostalo na crnom tržištu, dok u americi možeš sve, skoro na svakom uglu |
if you tolerate this, then your children will be next |
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sandyboy
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 15:40:59
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Ne, ok, sad mi je sve puno jasnije. Znači, Fox je televizija oporbe.
Mozgu i zdravom razumu, da
Nego, da se mi vratimo na pametne stvari. Ne znam za vas ali ja jedva čekam film, begins i dark knight sam gledao dvaput u kinu, nadam se da ću i ovog |
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Mairosu
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 16:15:58
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Mozda mu se nije svideo prevod Phoenix Pressovog "Ubistvenog vica" ? Ocekujem Coltovu izjavu. |
Ko igra za raju, i zanemaruje taktiku, zavrsit ce karijeru u nizerazrednom Vratniku.
Kakav ti je kupus, takva ti je sarma -- otac Tadej |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 16:41:53
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Užas! Što je najgore, vjerojatno će okriviti film jer se taj bolesnik obukao kao Bane. Super.
Ma jok. Ogromne su pare u pitanju kada se radi o hollywoodskim produkcijama. Znas kako Ameri misle: Prvo lova, onda ljudi.  Okrivit ce pojedince i prepucavati se jedno vrijeme o lakoj nabavi oruzja. I tako do sljedeceg masakra. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 16:43:37
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quote: Originally posted by sandyboy
Nego, da se mi vratimo na pametne stvari. Ne znam za vas ali ja jedva čekam film, begins i dark knight sam gledao dvaput u kinu, nadam se da ću i ovog
Ne ocekujem mnogo od filma, mislim da su sa Jokerom prosli put dostigli vrhunac.
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Torghal
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 21:08:31
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Evo, počelo je dovođenje filma u kontekst ove pucnjave:
http://www.vecernji.hr/kultura/i-novi-batman-glupava-je-bajka-a-mrtvi-aurori-krvava-stvarnost-clanak-433416
Još kad sam vidio prvi trailer tamo negdje prije šest mjeseci imao sam dojam da će se film baviti temama trulog kapitalizma i anarhije kao oblika bunta protiv današnjeg načina (ne)života. Film nisam gledao, niti znam išta o radnji ali me je jedna rečenica iz trailera povela na ovakvo razmišljanje:
"When it hits, you're all going to wonder how you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us."
Čini se da nisam mnogo fulao, i da je upravo ovo bit filma. I zato mi je sada jako žao što se ovo sve dogodilo jer će ova poruka filma (vidi citat gore) biti dovedena u kontekst terorizma, luđaka sa strojnicama i nevinih žrtava. I to će dati za pravo svima da pljuju po filmu (više nego to zaslužuje - još ga nisam pogledao pa ne znam zaslužuje li) i bunt ljudi protiv sistema će se izjednačiti sa luđacima koji pucaju po djeci. "American way" wins once again, i to na jebeno ironičan način...
...a situacija današnjice je upravo takva da onaj citat gore ima mnogo smisla. |
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Zagor12
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:04:53
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e zbilja, pogledajte kako se zove novinar koji je taj članak napisao. a pazite što jedan korisnik kaže o tome:
"Žao mi je novinara, kao prvo zbog prezimena je sigurno ima teško djetinstvo, a kao drugo, očito ga je neko stisno da napiše ovo, na "valu" današnje tragedije, malo iskorištavamo tuđu smrt zbog jednog članka, veliki - za VL."
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:05:31
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
jednostavno možeš vidjeti da prezire takve filmove... zašto onda uopće piše o njima?
ja se samo nadam da se zajebava... |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:08:41
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E hebi ga!
Od pismenog i obrazovanog Branimira Pofuka, nekadašnjeg komentatora i kritičara "ozbiljne" glazbe Jutarnjeg lista kao i voditelja Emisije opće prakse, svakako nisam očekivao da će nešto što nije pogledao (poslušao, pročitao, svejedno) paušalno i s visoka otpisati kao "glupavu bajku".
Tekst mi se ne da ni čitati, jer vjerujem da se radi o standardnom desničarskom seruckanju protiv nasilja u filmovima, lošeg utjecaja na mlade, srozavanja civilizacijskih normi itd., itsl.
No dobro, autor se ovime ideološki i svjetonazorno odlično uklapa u konzervativni profil Večernjaka, dok je u Jutarnjem bio bijela vrana, crna ovca, što god. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:16:29
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
E hebi ga!
Od pismenog i obrazovanog Branimira Pofuka, nekadašnjeg komentatora i kritičara "ozbiljne" glazbe Jutarnjeg lista kao i voditelja Emisije opće prakse, svakako nisam očekivao da će nešto što nije pogledao (poslušao, pročitao, svejedno) paušalno i s visoka otpisati kao "glupavu bajku".
Tekst mi se ne da ni čitati, jer vjerujem da se radi o standardnom desničarskom seruckanju protiv nasilja u filmovima, lošeg utjecaja na mlade, srozavanja civilizacijskih normi itd., itsl.
No dobro, autor se ovime ideološki i svjetonazorno odlično uklapa u konzervativni profil Večernjaka, dok je u Jutarnjem bio bijela vrana, crna ovca, što god.
 Bring it on, Johnny. |
Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti: http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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Mali_Mate
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:22:21
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
E hebi ga!
Od pismenog i obrazovanog Branimira Pofuka, nekadašnjeg komentatora i kritičara "ozbiljne" glazbe Jutarnjeg lista kao i voditelja Emisije opće prakse, svakako nisam očekivao da će nešto što nije pogledao (poslušao, pročitao, svejedno) paušalno i s visoka otpisati kao "glupavu bajku".
Tekst mi se ne da ni čitati, jer vjerujem da se radi o standardnom desničarskom seruckanju protiv nasilja u filmovima, lošeg utjecaja na mlade, srozavanja civilizacijskih normi itd., itsl.
No dobro, autor se ovime ideološki i svjetonazorno odlično uklapa u konzervativni profil Večernjaka, dok je u Jutarnjem bio bijela vrana, crna ovca, što god.
ko nešto što bi pronašao u tekstu Vedrane Rudan. |
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sandyboy
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:28:14
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Ajde, ljudi, molim vas, novine danas više nitko ne shvaća ni približno toliko ozbiljno kao nekad. Zato i ovo što su nekoć bile prave novine danas pribjegavaju senzacionalizmu i žutilu, popljuvali bi i vlastitu djecu da jedan lajk više na portalu dobiju tako da trkeljati o filmu koji nisu ni gledali ili mu učitavati sve i svašta nije uopće problem. |
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