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dosada
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:29:00
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
E hebi ga!
Od pismenog i obrazovanog Branimira Pofuka, nekadašnjeg komentatora i kritičara "ozbiljne" glazbe Jutarnjeg lista kao i voditelja Emisije opće prakse, svakako nisam očekivao da će nešto što nije pogledao (poslušao, pročitao, svejedno) paušalno i s visoka otpisati kao "glupavu bajku".
Tekst mi se ne da ni čitati, jer vjerujem da se radi o standardnom desničarskom seruckanju protiv nasilja u filmovima, lošeg utjecaja na mlade, srozavanja civilizacijskih normi itd., itsl.
No dobro, autor se ovime ideološki i svjetonazorno odlično uklapa u konzervativni profil Večernjaka, dok je u Jutarnjem bio bijela vrana, crna ovca, što god.
Pofuk desničari 
i zanimljivo kak mu zamjeraš komentar nečeg kaj nije pogledal (a pogledal je pa onda i komentira) ali istovremeno komentiraš nekaj kaj nisi pročital  |
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dosada
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 22:33:23
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inače sam baš namjeraval pa odustal (nemaš s kim to raspravljati) o tome kak se ne bu digla graja oko nelogičnosti u Batmanu (pogotovo politička pozadina, koja još u TDK-u bila na razine utopije) kao kaj se digla oko "nelogičnog" scenarija Prometeja. Nolan to zapakira i klinci prepametni izlaze iz kina pogledaju film  |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 23:15:24
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Mea culpa, mea massima culpa!
Pogledao je film i makar formalno zna o čemu piše.
Ali to opet ne mijenja na stvari da je riječ o paušalnom (desničarskom) seruckanju nekoga tko ne razumije ono što je gledao, od samog naslova "I NOVI BATMAN glupava je bajka" (uđuture se sve diskreditira, i Burtonovi i Nolanovi filmovi), preko rečenice "Analizirati eventualnu umjetničku vrijednost bilo kojeg filma o Batmanu potpuno je besmisleno" (hebi ga, ako ni u Burtonovim ni u Nolanovim filmovima ne nalazi nikakve umjetničke vrijednosti onda ima ozbiljan problem), do glupaovg zaključka "Ali, na idejnom planu, ako skupa s mobitelom ne isključite i mozak, film je obično smeće...".
Neka se Pofuk vrati Brahmsu, Mahleru, Julianu Rachlinu, Pogoreliću i neka se mane ćorava posla. Bit će da je Večernjak zbog rezanja troškova ostao i bez filmskog kritičara, pa su pisanje o novom Batmanu povjerili Pofuku. Tužno... |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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dosada
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Posted - 20/07/2012 : 23:28:56
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iz ovog se da zaključit da ni formalno ne zna.....
...ali s naslovom, a na osnovu ova dva ranija Batmena, bi se slžil. S obzirom da Nolan sad mora dati neku poruku pozabavil bu se politikom, a to je baš prikazival u BB i TDK kao bajku. Film je inače, ako smo na te događaje isključili mozak, fantstično funkcioniral. Mnogi filmski "zahvati" su odlično odrađeni. Pogođena dinamika psihološkog profila gledatelja, ono zajedničko...odlični filmovi! Tak da Pofuk ima i promašenih i pogođenih teza, ali nek se ostavi filma! |
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 08:03:51
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quote: Originally posted by dosada
inače sam baš namjeraval pa odustal (nemaš s kim to raspravljati) o tome kak se ne bu digla graja oko nelogičnosti u Batmanu (pogotovo politička pozadina, koja još u TDK-u bila na razine utopije) kao kaj se digla oko "nelogičnog" scenarija Prometeja. Nolan to zapakira i klinci prepametni izlaze iz kina pogledaju film 
Nazalost ne prepametni, ali sretni sto su zivi.pogledaj danasnji jutarnji list na strani 7.Ovaj ce tragicni dogadaj opet zarolati lavinu dusebriznika i licemjera i nas istinske stripofile svrstati u ladice u koje ne pripadamo...jebiga |
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Luca_Torelli
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 08:47:38
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quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
quote: Originally posted by dosada
inače sam baš namjeraval pa odustal (nemaš s kim to raspravljati) o tome kak se ne bu digla graja oko nelogičnosti u Batmanu (pogotovo politička pozadina, koja još u TDK-u bila na razine utopije) kao kaj se digla oko "nelogičnog" scenarija Prometeja. Nolan to zapakira i klinci prepametni izlaze iz kina pogledaju film 
Nazalost ne prepametni, ali sretni sto su zivi.pogledaj danasnji jutarnji list na strani 7.Ovaj ce tragicni dogadaj opet zarolati lavinu dusebriznika i licemjera i nas istinske stripofile svrstati u ladice u koje ne pripadamo...jebiga
Š'o piše, š'o?! |
nebesa nisu humana... (Hrabal)
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dosada
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 09:10:31
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quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
quote: Originally posted by dosada
inače sam baš namjeraval pa odustal (nemaš s kim to raspravljati) o tome kak se ne bu digla graja oko nelogičnosti u Batmanu (pogotovo politička pozadina, koja još u TDK-u bila na razine utopije) kao kaj se digla oko "nelogičnog" scenarija Prometeja. Nolan to zapakira i klinci prepametni izlaze iz kina pogledaju film 
Nazalost ne prepametni, ali sretni sto su zivi.pogledaj danasnji jutarnji list na strani 7.Ovaj ce tragicni dogadaj opet zarolati lavinu dusebriznika i licemjera i nas istinske stripofile svrstati u ladice u koje ne pripadamo...jebiga
nisam se osvrtal na ovaj incident jer on je upravo to, incident, na koji se nije moglo reagirati....a ljudi poput ovog manijaka uopće ne zaslužuju da ih se spominje i žalosno je kaj su mu uopće objavili ime (: |
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Zagor12
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fler
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 18:15:25
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i kome sad vjerovati?    
Što se mene tiče, kao i obično - samo sebi. Ne interesiraju me piskaranja kritičara (kao uostalom i što kažu drugi, bez obzira preporučuju li ili pljuju), pogledat ću film i formirati mišljenje.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 18:32:55
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Tom Hardy (Bane) mi je zaista u posljednje vrijeme postao drag glumac. Tip je bas faca i cool, samo sto sam i prije primjetio da ja bas mali. Iako na imdb pise da je 178 cm visok, nesto cisto sumnjam u to. e sada, Bane je poslije transformacije postao bas ogroman, pa pitam se koliko je vjerodostojno da on glumi ovog lika. Ako u filmu ne bude upadljiva njegova visina, to znaci da su kamermani i reziser odradili dobar posao. |
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dosada
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King Warrior
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 19:31:50
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Ok, pitanje je samo da li je Nolan mislio na to ili mu je bilo svejedno i ostavio sve onako kako jeste. Mislim na Tomovu visinu. |
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 20:05:47
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quote: Originally posted by fler
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i kome sad vjerovati?    
Što se mene tiče, kao i obično - samo sebi. Ne interesiraju me piskaranja kritičara (kao uostalom i što kažu drugi, bez obzira preporučuju li ili pljuju), pogledat ću film i formirati mišljenje.
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Zagor12
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Posted - 21/07/2012 : 23:39:57
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Ih, ja sam 195 cm visok mogao sam ja glumit Hulka umjesto Ruffala a jos imam medicinsko znanje pa bi se uzivio u Bannera. Danas pogledao samo sat vremena drugog djela "Dark knighta" , malo pred treci dio u kinu... |
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Posted - 22/07/2012 : 00:05:01
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quote: Originally posted by emirem
Ih, ja sam 195 cm visok mogao sam ja glumit Hulka umjesto Ruffala a jos imam medicinsko znanje pa bi se uzivio u Bannera.
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Posted - 22/07/2012 : 01:46:13
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
E hebi ga!
Od pismenog i obrazovanog Branimira Pofuka, nekadašnjeg komentatora i kritičara "ozbiljne" glazbe Jutarnjeg lista kao i voditelja Emisije opće prakse, svakako nisam očekivao da će nešto što nije pogledao (poslušao, pročitao, svejedno) paušalno i s visoka otpisati kao "glupavu bajku".
Tekst mi se ne da ni čitati, jer vjerujem da se radi o standardnom desničarskom seruckanju protiv nasilja u filmovima, lošeg utjecaja na mlade, srozavanja civilizacijskih normi itd., itsl.
No dobro, autor se ovime ideološki i svjetonazorno odlično uklapa u konzervativni profil Večernjaka, dok je u Jutarnjem bio bijela vrana, crna ovca, što god.
Kakav desničar, taj Pofuk je ekstremni ljevičar i savršeno se uklapao u Jutarnji list. Ne znam što treba Večernjaku da preuzima te novinarčiće iz Jutarnjeg (prije par mjeseci kod njih je prešla ona svinja Kuljiš, sad ovaj idiot Pofuk)... Baš sam danas s frendovima u kafiću komentirao taj Pofukov članak o Batmanu. Tekst po načinu na koji je intoniran neodoljivo podsjeća na tipične tekstove Jutarnjeg lista. |
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