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mr murdoc
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Posted - 22/07/2012 : 08:13:35
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quote: Originally posted by dsormaz1
quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
E hebi ga!
Od pismenog i obrazovanog Branimira Pofuka, nekadašnjeg komentatora i kritičara "ozbiljne" glazbe Jutarnjeg lista kao i voditelja Emisije opće prakse, svakako nisam očekivao da će nešto što nije pogledao (poslušao, pročitao, svejedno) paušalno i s visoka otpisati kao "glupavu bajku".
Tekst mi se ne da ni čitati, jer vjerujem da se radi o standardnom desničarskom seruckanju protiv nasilja u filmovima, lošeg utjecaja na mlade, srozavanja civilizacijskih normi itd., itsl.
No dobro, autor se ovime ideološki i svjetonazorno odlično uklapa u konzervativni profil Večernjaka, dok je u Jutarnjem bio bijela vrana, crna ovca, što god.
Kakav desničar, taj Pofuk je ekstremni ljevičar i savršeno se uklapao u Jutarnji list. Ne znam što treba Večernjaku da preuzima te novinarčiće iz Jutarnjeg (prije par mjeseci kod njih je prešla ona svinja Kuljiš, sad ovaj idiot Pofuk)... Baš sam danas s frendovima u kafiću komentirao taj Pofukov članak o Batmanu. Tekst po načinu na koji je intoniran neodoljivo podsjeća na tipične tekstove Jutarnjeg lista.
Ja sam mislio da ti citas samo glas konzila ili godzila ili kako vec  |
“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde |
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Luca_Torelli
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Posted - 22/07/2012 : 08:15:03
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
Mea culpa, mea massima culpa!
Pogledao je film i makar formalno zna o čemu piše.
Ali to opet ne mijenja na stvari da je riječ o paušalnom (desničarskom) seruckanju nekoga tko ne razumije ono što je gledao, od samog naslova "I NOVI BATMAN glupava je bajka" (uđuture se sve diskreditira, i Burtonovi i Nolanovi filmovi), preko rečenice "Analizirati eventualnu umjetničku vrijednost bilo kojeg filma o Batmanu potpuno je besmisleno" (hebi ga, ako ni u Burtonovim ni u Nolanovim filmovima ne nalazi nikakve umjetničke vrijednosti onda ima ozbiljan problem), do glupaovg zaključka "Ali, na idejnom planu, ako skupa s mobitelom ne isključite i mozak, film je obično smeće...".
Neka se Pofuk vrati Brahmsu, Mahleru, Julianu Rachlinu, Pogoreliću i neka se mane ćorava posla. Bit će da je Večernjak zbog rezanja troškova ostao i bez filmskog kritičara, pa su pisanje o novom Batmanu povjerili Pofuku. Tužno...
Pofuk ima fora prezime koje mu sigurno zadaje slatke brige (ili prednosti) dok se upoznaje s nekim. Kao voditelj "Emisije opće prakse" bio je ultradosadan, nimalo provokativan i intrigantan, stalno je podilazio intelektualnom trojcu (u kojem se, naravno, uvelike isticao Mandić), a i tekstovi o glazbi koje je objavljivao u Jutarnjem su se brzo izlizali, postali isti. Na kraju se gotovo svaki njegov "glazbeni" tekst svodio na dodvoračko isticanje Pogorelićevog genija, a sada će se, kako izgleda, pretvoriti u dežurnog dušebrižnika, zamijeniti Kustića i/ili Čička komentirajući američke blockbustere, Severininu šminku i neoprezne bicikliste... |
nebesa nisu humana... (Hrabal)
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Zagor12
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 22/07/2012 : 19:33:36
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quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Ja sam mislio da ti citas samo glas konzila ili godzila ili kako vec 
Čitam skoro sve što mi dođe u ruke. |
Edited by - dsormaz1 on 22/07/2012 19:33:58 |
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Zagor12
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 01:09:15
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dajte se manite baljezgarija, sta me zabole patka koliko je ljudi sa kojom ocenom glasao na imdb |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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PijaniPatak
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 10:44:46
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a brate, otvorim temu da procitam nesto o filmu a oni i dalje o imdbu i zvezdicama abre.... |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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King Warrior
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dosada
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acestroke
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King Warrior
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 13:22:12
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Meni su Keaton i Bale najbolji. Bale je pomalo sam od sebe odbojan tip, pa zato favorizujem Keatona. Obojica su dobro odglumili Batmana. Clooney je totalni promasaj, u svakom pogledu. |
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Leonid
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 13:34:19
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Koja se budala dosjetila Clooneyu dati ulogu Brucea Waynea....taj je stvarno zalutao. Ne znam,meni je Keaton jako dobro odradio posao ali previše je nizak za tu ulogu. Bale je najbolje odradio ulogu jer je na više načina portretirao Batmana,unio se u skroz....ne znam glumca uopće koji bi bolje odglumio Nolanovog realističnog i mračnog Batmana. |
"Liston even smells like a bear. I'm gonna give him to the local zoo after I whup him" |
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manhunter
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 13:37:12
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Meni su svi filmovi o Betmenu pre Nolana smejurija, tako da glasam za Balea. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Nivox
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 14:07:02
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quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Meni su svi filmovi o Betmenu pre Nolana smejurija, tako da glasam za Balea.
Ne valja ti niti Burtonov prvi Batman iz 1989 ? |
Sve što zna za smrt, može se ponovo roditi! |
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Darth Ivan
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 14:12:46
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Meni su Keaton i Bale najbolji. Bale je pomalo sam od sebe odbojan tip, pa zato favorizujem Keatona. Obojica su dobro odglumili Batmana. Clooney je totalni promasaj, u svakom pogledu.
Clooney jest možda najgori Batman dosad, ali mislim da je ipak nepošteno reći da je on bio totalni promašaj, budući da je i sam film ("Batman i Robin") bio promašaj sam po sebi (ili bolje rečeno propast), od režije do scenarija. |
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 14:14:42
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quote: Originally posted by Leonid
Koja se budala dosjetila Clooneyu dati ulogu Brucea Waynea....taj je stvarno zalutao.
a znate li kako je Kilmer dobio ulogu Batmana? tako što je Schumacher pogledao "Tombstone" i bio oduševljen Kilmerovom ulogom. |
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Mairosu
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 14:37:58
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quote: Originally posted by Nivox
quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Meni su svi filmovi o Betmenu pre Nolana smejurija, tako da glasam za Balea.
Ne valja ti niti Burtonov prvi Batman iz 1989 ?
Manhunter je izgleda jedan od onih sto misli da je Batman visoko filozofsko stivo za intelektualce, sva ta unutrasnja borba, tenzija, psihoze, tako da mu sigurno nije legao campy Burtonov omaz originalnim stripovima Boba Kanea... :D |
Ko igra za raju, i zanemaruje taktiku, zavrsit ce karijeru u nizerazrednom Vratniku.
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 14:41:38
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campy, kažeš? taj pojam bi se definitivno mogao primijeniti na onu blesavu seriju iz 60-ih, i "Batmana i Robina". |
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Zagor12
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manhunter
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Posted - 23/07/2012 : 16:09:28
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quote: Originally posted by Mairosu
quote: Originally posted by Nivox
quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Meni su svi filmovi o Betmenu pre Nolana smejurija, tako da glasam za Balea.
Ne valja ti niti Burtonov prvi Batman iz 1989 ?
Manhunter je izgleda jedan od onih sto misli da je Batman visoko filozofsko stivo za intelektualce, sva ta unutrasnja borba, tenzija, psihoze, tako da mu sigurno nije legao campy Burtonov omaz originalnim stripovima Boba Kanea... :D
Dobro što si odgovorio već na pitanje upućeno meni, ali je odgovor ipak netačan. Generalno ne mislim ni za jedan strip da je intelektualno štivo. A ovde pričamo o filmu kao mediju i od svih navedenih su mi oni raniji smejurija OD FILMA. Burtonov može još i da prodje, ali ništa posebno. Šta meni kao gledaocu filma znači i "omaž" i pogodjena atmosfera iz stripa, ako mi se film ne svidja? |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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