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Ignus
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 14:11:39
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quote: Originally posted by maddox031
doci ce, ali samo da kupe nesto sto znaju
ali point sa dolaskom u striparnicu stoji - uvijek je moguce kupiti nesto drugo i vise, dok na webu to i nije slucaj :)
kod mene je prvilo :D Iako imam zacrtano šta ću kupiti uvjek nešto opazim što mi nije bilo ni u peti kupiti. |
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Mr. Bushido
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
12955 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 14:16:03
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
Neko će doći prelistati i kupiti impulzivno ali da li se broj kupljenih stripova od takvih kupaca isplati naprema povećanoj prodaji preko web shopa?
Jesi siguran da bi tada imao veću prodaju? Ja mislim da se ne bi bitno promijenila. Iz jednostavnog razloga što Marko ne izdaje Zagora. |
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Markos
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Croatia
29478 Posts
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 14:36:36
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quote: Originally posted by jaki OK.Neko će doći prelistati i kupiti impulzivno ali da li se broj kupljenih stripova od takvih kupaca isplati naprema povećanoj prodaji preko web shopa? Prelistati se može i privju na webu tako da se tu ne gubi ništa.Može se stavit slika i opis stripa tako da se i to vidi na webu. Meni je kupovanje u striparnici kao i većini Hrvata kao da kupujem u tebe na web shopu Fali nam lanac striparnica da bi imali strip tržište. I ne vidim da će se u budućnosti nešto mijenjati na bolje.
Ja bi se kladio da bi prodaja bila manja, dugoročno gledano. |
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noemis
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Serbia
1320 Posts
Member since 11/05/2010 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 14:40:55
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pfff, ništa od altruizma...
a kakva je ono legendarna rečenica/savet bila... "da se revoltirano vraćaju stripovi izdavaču"... a sve to jer su striparnice potrebne samom savetodavcu, jer dugoročno... pffff
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noemis
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Serbia
1320 Posts
Member since 11/05/2010 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 14:41:37
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a posle ja delam iz koristoljublja... |
"Ja se mnogo bojim ljudi koji hoce da usrece narod... ...niko nema prava da silom svog suseda cini srecnim." |
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jaki
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Croatia
27174 Posts
Member since 13/03/2004 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 14:48:54
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido Jesi siguran da bi tada imao veću prodaju? Ja mislim da se ne bi bitno promijenila. Iz jednostavnog razloga što Marko ne izdaje Zagora.
Trebalo bi probati pa vidjeti. Ionako svi izdavači kažu da se stripovi prodaju u nekoliko stotina komada pa mi je smiješno da za tako fanzinsku tiražu treba netko tko će ih prodavati umjesto tebe i dodati 30% na cijenu stripa za kupca. |
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Tutta
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Germany
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 14:59:06
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ovdje u frankfurtu,comic-shopovi bi slobodno mogli zatvoriti,da ne rade preko web'a. stvar je u tome,utipkajte comic-shops in deutschland. nece netko potrositi goriva za 30 eura,da bi kupio strip vrijedan 10,15,20 eura. |
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Markos
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Croatia
29478 Posts
Member since 27/08/2001 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 15:08:56
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quote: Originally posted by noemis
pfff, ništa od altruizma...
a kakva je ono legendarna rečenica/savet bila... "da se revoltirano vraćaju stripovi izdavaču"... a sve to jer su striparnice potrebne samom savetodavcu, jer dugoročno... pffff
Daj ne seri. |
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feniks
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1923 Posts
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 15:10:05
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Sve je to tacno, kupovina preko neta itd... Ali "mi" nismo toliko izgradjeno trziste, naravno da ima ljudi koji pogledaju prevju malo se informisu preko neta i pada kupovina. Ali takvih ljudi je malo, tacnije nedovoljno Jednostavno ljudi nece odvojiti svoj novac 20, 30, 50 evra za nesto sto nisu vidjeli, opipali omirisali, prelistali. Tako da se slazem s Markom da bi prodaja opala na duze staze. |
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noemis
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Serbia
1320 Posts
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 15:12:52
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
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jaki
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Croatia
27174 Posts
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 15:36:05
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Nije u pitanju kupovina preko interneta vs. kupovina u fizičkoj striparnici. Ionako sve striparnice u HR imaju svoj web, U pitanju je da izdavač prodaje svoje stripove sam preko svog weba i time omogući jeftiniju krajnju cijenu za kupca. Doduše onda bi morao imati dodatnog posla sa pakiranjem i slanjem a to im se besplatno ne radi. |
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Shiva314
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Croatia
336 Posts
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 16:34:19
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Uspoređuje li itko uopće cijene Fibrinih izdanja sa istoimenim izdanjima sa npr. američkog, engleskog, njemačkog itd. tržišta koja su dostupna preko weba (amazon)? Cijene su tu negdje +/- par postotaka... većinom je u slučaju stranih izdanja riječ o tiražama koje višestruko premašuju 500 primjeraka i s mekim koricama. |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 17:26:47
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quote: Originally posted by jaki U pitanju je da izdavač prodaje svoje stripove sam preko svog weba i time omogući jeftiniju krajnju cijenu za kupca. Doduše onda bi morao imati dodatnog posla sa pakiranjem i slanjem a to im se besplatno ne radi.
OK, dakle možemo popisu mojih mana dodati još i lijenost. Hvala ti, jaki, na tome doprinosu. Imam nekih poteškoća sa zdravljem, možda znaš i tu o čemu je riječ, zašto da bezveze idem kod doktora kad tebi dijagnostika tako dobro ide? |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 17:31:04
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quote: Originally posted by Shiva314
Uspoređuje li itko uopće cijene Fibrinih izdanja sa istoimenim izdanjima sa npr. američkog, engleskog, njemačkog itd. tržišta koja su dostupna preko weba (amazon)? Cijene su tu negdje +/- par postotaka... većinom je u slučaju stranih izdanja riječ o tiražama koje višestruko premašuju 500 primjeraka i s mekim koricama.
Ne trudi se, jer "E a znaš li ti koliki je standard u Americi, Njemačkoj, Francuskoj, a koliki kod nas..."
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Deers
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Croatia
9469 Posts
Member since 29/03/2004 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 17:51:24
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by jaki U pitanju je da izdavač prodaje svoje stripove sam preko svog weba i time omogući jeftiniju krajnju cijenu za kupca. Doduše onda bi morao imati dodatnog posla sa pakiranjem i slanjem a to im se besplatno ne radi.
OK, dakle možemo popisu mojih mana dodati još i lijenost. Hvala ti, jaki, na tome doprinosu. Imam nekih poteškoća sa zdravljem, možda znaš i tu o čemu je riječ, zašto da bezveze idem kod doktora kad tebi dijagnostika tako dobro ide?
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D.J.
stripovi.com suradnik
    

USA
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trolodtroje
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Member since 14/09/2010 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 18:17:30
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
Nije u pitanju kupovina preko interneta vs. kupovina u fizičkoj striparnici. Ionako sve striparnice u HR imaju svoj web, U pitanju je da izdavač prodaje svoje stripove sam preko svog weba i time omogući jeftiniju krajnju cijenu za kupca. Doduše onda bi morao imati dodatnog posla sa pakiranjem i slanjem a to im se besplatno ne radi.
quote je samo da se navežem: pa pitajmo onda babilon, kako jim ide web prodaja. šalju ponude na (možda) sve forume i ja sam siguran, da su prodali daleko više preko interneta nego bi prodali samo iz striparnice. |
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Nostromo
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Croatia
476 Posts
Member since 16/12/2008 |
Posted - 10/09/2012 : 19:27:49
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Darkwood ima drugačiju situaciju koliko ja vidim. Cijelu Srbiju pokrivaju samo Darkwood i Alan Ford. Čini se da nemaju neki posebno dobar odnos, ono, zdrava konkurencija. Ostale knjižare sporadično prodaju stripove tako da su ovdje prilično nevažne. Znači DW je u prilično komotnoj situaciji, nemaju se kome zamjeriti. Sve što u Srbiji prodaju prodaju preko svojih kanala, striparnice i weba i mogu kako hoće. Vide koja im je minimalna cijena pokrivanja i tako rade. Pametno. Ali oni to mogu. Ovdje je druga pjesma. Ipak ima nekoliko striparnica, Zagreb, Rijeka, Đakovo i nijedna nije Markova. Kada bi ovdje uveo web prodaju mogao bi prekrižiti striparnice. U prvo vrijeme prodaja bi možda malo porasla ali to sigurno ne bi dugo trajalo. Striparnice bi ostale bez kupaca i adio. Cilj je valjda uvesti strip u više knjižara a ne povući ih i iz striparnica. Sve u svemu ja bih sa takvim popustom na slijedećoj turi uštedio oko 150kn plus put do Đakova. Ali ovako mi je draže jer volim kad vidim da je Zlatko Babilon u gomili papira, da zamata pakete, da ima nešto posla. Netko mu naiđe da posudi film, vidi strip, kupi ga. Ja naiđem, hoću kupiti Rip Kirbyja, vidim nesretnog Zagora, uhvati me nostalgija i kupim oba stripa. Hej! Ne mogu ga čitati koliko mi je budalast sada ali kad sam ga vidio... vremeplov. A Zlatko je zaradio neku kunu. Sve u svemu izdavač koji se u Hrvatskoj osloni samo na web prodaju osuđen je na propast. Ima nas stotinjak, sve smo starijii osipamo se polako. Striparnice i ovaj sajt jedine su točke koje pokazuju da nas još ima. Paradoksalno, jer se trenutno štampaju najbolji stripovi ikada izašli i izbor je stvarno prekrasan. Ustvari, mi smo privilegirani
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jaki
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 20:19:35
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
OK, dakle možemo popisu mojih mana dodati još i lijenost. Hvala ti, jaki, na tome doprinosu. Imam nekih poteškoća sa zdravljem, možda znaš i tu o čemu je riječ, zašto da bezveze idem kod doktora kad tebi dijagnostika tako dobro ide?
Sam si rekao da si lijen.Ja to nigdje nisam napisao i nisam ni mislio. Ja mislim da ti se to ne radi jer bi ti to stvorilo dodatnog posla a već si ionako prezauzet s izdanjima. Ah,zaboravija sam,ionako striparnicu plaća kupac. |
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Edited by - jaki on 10/09/2012 20:26:13 |
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jaki
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 20:23:26
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quote: Originally posted by trolodtroje
je samo da se navežem: pa pitajmo onda babilon, kako jim ide web prodaja. šalju ponude na (možda) sve forume i ja sam siguran, da su prodali daleko više preko interneta nego bi prodali samo iz striparnice.
Neću ti grubo odgovoriti jer si iz Slovenije pa pretpostavljam da dobro ne razumiješ hrvatski i nisi mogao s razumijevanjem pročitati napisano na ovom topicu za razliku od nekih drugih članova koji znaju čitati htrvatski ali im uzalud |
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Edited by - jaki on 10/09/2012 20:24:34 |
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petar.pan
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328 Posts
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 20:43:22
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
quote: Originally posted by trolodtroje
je samo da se navežem: pa pitajmo onda babilon, kako jim ide web prodaja. šalju ponude na (možda) sve forume i ja sam siguran, da su prodali daleko više preko interneta nego bi prodali samo iz striparnice.
Neću ti grubo odgovoriti jer si iz Slovenije pa pretpostavljam da dobro ne razumiješ hrvatski i nisi mogao s razumijevanjem pročitati napisano na ovom topicu za razliku od nekih drugih članova koji znaju čitati htrvatski ali im uzalud
e javio se doktor znanosti :) |
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 20:45:33
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
quote: Originally posted by Markos
OK, dakle možemo popisu mojih mana dodati još i lijenost. Hvala ti, jaki, na tome doprinosu. Imam nekih poteškoća sa zdravljem, možda znaš i tu o čemu je riječ, zašto da bezveze idem kod doktora kad tebi dijagnostika tako dobro ide?
Sam si rekao da si lijen.Ja to nigdje nisam napisao i nisam ni mislio. Ja mislim da ti se to ne radi jer bi ti to stvorilo dodatnog posla a već si ionako prezauzet s izdanjima. Ah,zaboravija sam,ionako striparnicu plaća kupac.
Ako ti misliš da je meni svejedno košta li krajnjeg kupca strip 300 ili 210 kuna i da je glavni razlog zašto ipak košta 300 to što se meni "ne da pakirati", onda si, moram ti reći, idiot. |
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petar.pan
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 20:52:16
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by jaki
quote: Originally posted by Markos
OK, dakle možemo popisu mojih mana dodati još i lijenost. Hvala ti, jaki, na tome doprinosu. Imam nekih poteškoća sa zdravljem, možda znaš i tu o čemu je riječ, zašto da bezveze idem kod doktora kad tebi dijagnostika tako dobro ide?
Sam si rekao da si lijen.Ja to nigdje nisam napisao i nisam ni mislio. Ja mislim da ti se to ne radi jer bi ti to stvorilo dodatnog posla a već si ionako prezauzet s izdanjima. Ah,zaboravija sam,ionako striparnicu plaća kupac.
Ako ti misliš da je meni svejedno košta li krajnjeg kupca strip 300 ili 210 kuna i da je glavni razlog zašto ipak košta 300 to što se meni "ne da pakirati", onda si, moram ti reći, idiot.
nemoj tako, nije on kriv, znaš li ti koliko se čovjek naradi, vidiš da će iza njega ostati puno toga. kad je čovjek tako vrijedan i radi isključivo za dobrobit drugih ima pravo ponekoga i kritizirati, e, kad bi svi bili kao on |
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ponki
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/09/2012 : 21:01:39
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Zna se da su popusti na Interliberu i CRŠu, prošle godine si ga mogao dobiti za 225... Ove ćemo još vidjeti. |
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