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Pirgavi
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 21:06:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pirgavi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

još jedno gluzpo pitanje

kako biste vi čitali zadužbinu
evo ubacujem je na spisak i listu
ali me zanima kako da čitam

preferiram KRONOLOŠKI kako je objavljivano

međutim kako je bolje u ovom slučaju?




To ti je pitanje kao: Ima Boga, nema Boga? :))

Svatko kaže drugačije. Ja sam čitao prvo orginalnu trilogiju, a onda Rub i Zemlju, pa tek onda Preludij i Ususret...meni je pasalo...samo što je Fondacija i Zemlja...nedajbože... posložim ih po ukusu:

1. Fondacija
2. Druga Fondacija
3. Fondacija i Carstvo
4. Preludij
5. Rub
6. Ususret
7. Fondacija i Zemlja

U svakom slučaju remek-djelo nad remek-djelima

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zeljko
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 21:13:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a kako uklopiti robote i carstvo :D

Utabanim stazama ocaja!
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Ernie Pike
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 23:03:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ernie Pike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

a kako uklopiti robote i carstvo :D



Prije bi trebalo procitati trilogiju o carstvu, trilogiju o robotima i Na rubu zaduzbine.
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DeeCay
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Posted - 05/11/2012 : 12:13:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nisu li Roboti kronološki prije Carstva i Fondacije? Ja bih to onda rađe kronološki čitao...

Evo tu jednog stranog topica o istoj temi...
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/2335/what-order-should-asimovs-foundation-series-be-read-in

Sam Asimov predlaže isto kronološki, mislim da to ima najviše smisla:

The Complete Robot (1982) Collection of 31 Short Stories about robots.
The Caves of Steel (1954) His first Robot novel.
The Naked Sun (1957) The second Robot novel.
The Robots of Dawn (1983) The third Robot novel.
Robots and Empire (1985) The fourth (final) Robot novel.
(End of Eternity (1955) quasi-prequel to Empire)
The Currents of Space (1952) The first Empire novel.
The Stars, Like Dust-- (1951) The second Empire novel.
Psychohistorical Crisis (2001) is a science fiction novel by Donald Kingsbury
Pebble in the Sky (1950) The third and final Empire novel.
Prelude to Foundation (1988) The first Foundation novel.
Foundation's Fear (1997) is a science fiction novel by Gregory Benford,
Forward the Foundation (1992) The second Foundation novel. (Not in Asimov's list as it had not been written yet. "Emperor Cleon" included!)
Foundation and Chaos (1998) is a science fiction novel by Greg Bear
Foundation's Triumph (1999) is a science fiction novel by David Brin
Possible sequel "Denouement" by David Brin
Foundation (1951) The third Foundation novel, comprised of 5 stories originally published between 1942-1949.
Foundation and Empire (1952) The fourth Foundation novel, comprised of 2 stories originally published in 1945.
Second Foundation (1953) The fifth Foundation novel, comprised of 2 stories originally published in 1948 and 1949.
Foundation's Edge (1982) The sixth Foundation novel.
Foundation and Earth (1983) The seventh Foundation novel.
"Foundation's Friends, Stories in Honor of Isaac Asimov" (1989) antologija kratkih priča smještenih u Asimovljev univerzum Robot/Empire/Foundation universe. Autori: Ray Bradbury, Robert Silverberg, Frederik Pohl, Poul Anderson, Harry Turtledove, and Orson Scott Card. Ima na linku opis gdje ide koja priča.

Ima i na hr wikiju lijepa kronologija:
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serijal_o_Zakladi

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."

Edited by - DeeCay on 06/11/2012 10:24:31
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Ernie Pike
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Posted - 05/11/2012 : 21:16:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ernie Pike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dee, taj raspored je isto OK, ali Roboti i carstvo su naknadno pisani kako bi spojili dvije serije i nekako mi vise pripadaju uz Zaduzbinu i zemlju na kraj.
Kraj vjecnosti bi se isto trebao procitati prije kako bi se shvatile sve reference (mada nije problem i ako se ne procita).
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Paka01
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 00:40:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote


GEORGE R. R. MARTIN - Pjesma Sudnjeg Dana

Da ne duljim puno, meni se knjiga strašno svidila. Glavni lik je pisac, nekadašnji underground novinar i pripadnik hipi generacije koji prati ponovno okupljanje nekada planetarno popularnog (imaginarnog) benda Nazgul. Međutim, taj put je isprepleten ubojstvima, spletkama i urotama, mistikom i mračnom magijom... Međutim, ono šta ovaj roman čini tako odličnim su sudbine prijatelja glavnog lika, točnije nekadašnjih prijatelja koji su danas raštrkani po Americi, svatko živi drugačiji život, a sve je to prepleteno sjećanjima iz prošlosti uz veliki utjecaj glazbe. Za sve koji vole Hendrixa, Doorse, Grateful Dead i slične bendove, ovo bi vam se moglo svidit Dodajte još u to malo magije, nešto ubojstva, droge i seksa i imate ovu knjigu.

Dva dodatna bonusa:
1) Na koricama s unutarnje strane imamo naslovnice prva 4 albuma benda Nazgul koje je nacrtao Igor Kordej Super izgleda i vjerno dočarava Martinov opis iz knjige.
2) Knjiga košta samo 30 kn šta stvarno nije puno.

8,5/10

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And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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zeljko
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:02:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
kako ba 30 kuna
to je bilo 56 maraka ravno 15 godina stoji u izlogu
tek nedavno kad je bilo na sniženju od 50% je neko kupio :D

mozda je to novo izdanje s tvrdim koricama?

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zeljko
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:05:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeeCay
The Complete Robot (1982) Collection of 31 Short Stories about robots. ĆITO
The Caves of Steel (1954) His first Robot novel. ĆITO
The Naked Sun (1957) The second Robot novel. ĆITO
The Robots of Dawn (1983) The third Robot novel.
Robots and Empire (1985) The fourth (final) Robot novel.
The Currents of Space (1952) The first Empire novel. ĆITO
The Stars, Like Dust-- (1951) The second Empire novel. ĆITO
Pebble in the Sky (1950) The third and final Empire novel. ĆITO
Prelude to Foundation (1988) The first Foundation novel.
Forward the Foundation (1992) The second Foundation novel. (Not in Asimov's list as it had not been written yet.)
Foundation (1951) The third Foundation novel, comprised of 5 stories originally published between 1942-1949.
Foundation and Empire (1952) The fourth Foundation novel, comprised of 2 stories originally published in 1945.
Second Foundation (1953) The fifth Foundation novel, comprised of 2 stories originally published in 1948 and 1949.
Foundation's Edge (1982) The sixth Foundation novel. ĆITO
Foundation and Earth (1983) The seventh Foundation novel. PRODO



većinu sam čitao prije ali tek sams ada sve sakupio što mi treba pa ću lagano krenuti od prve knjige koju sam čitao.... zadužbina... pa ću ići dalje preko robota i carstvo na kraju :D
ima jedna priča u futuri CAR CLEON
i to treba čitati
sjećam se da sam jednom od asimova pročitao kako još ne planira pisati knjigu koja će recimo nemezis povezati sa svim ostalim knjigama

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DeeCay
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:36:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

kako ba 30 kuna
to je bilo 56 maraka ravno 15 godina stoji u izlogu
tek nedavno kad je bilo na sniženju od 50% je neko kupio :D
mozda je to novo izdanje s tvrdim koricama?


Ma to ti je kiosk izdanje od Algoritma, džepno izdanje...

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DeeCay
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:42:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko
ima jedna priča u futuri CAR CLEON
i to treba čitati



Da, imam tu Futuru...
To je kasnije uključeno u Forward the Foundation (Ususret Fondaciji).

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DeeCay
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:53:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ernie Pike

Dee, taj raspored je isto OK, ali Roboti i carstvo su naknadno pisani kako bi spojili dvije serije i nekako mi vise pripadaju uz Zaduzbinu i zemlju na kraj.
Kraj vjecnosti bi se isto trebao procitati prije kako bi se shvatile sve reference (mada nije problem i ako se ne procita).


Ovo je Asimovljeva lista, nisam je ja radio... Mada ok, ovo će i meni poslužiti kao smjernica za čitanje. Stavio End of eternity između Robota i Carstva i Currents of space. A ima između Prelude to Foundation i prve Fondacije još knjiga koje nije napisao Asimov. Upotpunio sam listu i s njima.

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."

Edited by - DeeCay on 06/11/2012 09:56:11
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panzer
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:57:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Ich bin kein Mensch, ich bin kein Tier, ich bin ein Panzer-Grenadier!
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mladjo
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 11:52:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja ipak ne bih miješao u popis Asimovljeve knjige i knjige drugih autora, ma koliko one bile po redosljedu.
Ali dobro, kako već nekome paše...
Inače, Zadužbina se može bez problema čitati bez čitanja drugih knjiga prije toga (npr. u Kraju Vječnosti imaš samo jednu rečenicu koja se dotiče kronologije, a i ta je potpuno nevezana za radnju) ali ako baš ideš čitati sve knjige iz svih ciklusa, onda bi i Zadužbino tebao kronološki

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mladjo
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 12:18:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo kako sam ja čitao:

Fondacija
Fondacija i carstvo
Druga Fondacija
Rub Fondacije
Fondacija i zemlja (tada (2003.) je ovu knjigu bilo gotovo nemoguće nabaviti, uff kad se sjetim...
Preludij u Fondaciju
Ususret Fondaciji


Sam Asimov je htio tu ubaciti još par knjiga (konkretno je govorio između Ususret Fondaciji i Fondacije da bi bilo zgodno) ali nažalost...

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Pirgavi
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 15:06:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pirgavi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zeljko

kako ba 30 kuna
to je bilo 56 maraka ravno 15 godina stoji u izlogu
tek nedavno kad je bilo na sniženju od 50% je neko kupio :D

mozda je to novo izdanje s tvrdim koricama?



Baš kupovao cigare i skontam ovu knjigu u kiosku...29,90 kn


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mladjo
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 15:21:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Možda se promijenio kurs marka/kuna


Inače, nikak' da pročitam tu knjigu.
Jel' to na kraju SF, cFantasy, horror ili nešto treće?

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Paka01
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 15:26:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Malo fantasyja, malo horrora, malo krimića i malo drame, sve prošarano duhom muzike s kraja 60ih i hipi pokretom.
Stvarno ne znan kako bi bolje opisa, knjiga je jednostavno takva

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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mladjo
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 15:33:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ok, thnx

Inače, za čitatelje SIRIUSA, preporučam Martinovu KRALJEVI PIJESKA, objavljenu u broju 99. Remek - djelo

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DeeCay
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 17:15:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mladjo
Sam Asimov je htio tu ubaciti još par knjiga (konkretno je govorio između Ususret Fondaciji i Fondacije da bi bilo zgodno) ali nažalost...



Pa ubacili su ih drugi autori... A on da je dalje pisao bilo bi još tu gomile knjiga. Ionako je cijeli svoj opus na neki način povezao u jedan veliki Asimovljev univerzum.

Jesi čitao koju od neAsimovljevih?

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DeeCay
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 17:19:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

Malo fantasyja, malo horrora, malo krimića i malo drame, sve prošarano duhom muzike s kraja 60ih i hipi pokretom.
Stvarno ne znan kako bi bolje opisa, knjiga je jednostavno takva


Privukao te onaj gitarista na naslovnici, priznaj!

Meni se nekako ne da čitati Martinove ostale knjige, ne bih si htio pokvariti okus Igara vatra i leda u slučaju da ostali romani nisu tako dobri. Nekako mi ovi Armagedon rag i Fevre dream izgledaju kao hororci.

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Pirgavi
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 22:09:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pirgavi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Danas kupio Non-stop od Aldissa. Jel čitao netko?

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Ernie Pike
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 22:15:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ernie Pike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Benford, Bear i Brin su napisali knjige koje su obavezna lektira za ljubitelje Zaduzbine.
Postoji i antologija Foundation's Friends u kojoj ima nekoliko dobrih prica (najbolja mi je bila Originist od O.S. Carda). To je bila prva knjiga koju sam kupio u Algoritmu u Gajevoj po otvaranju, a zelio sam je otkad sam cuo od Anticevica za nju.
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 23:04:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeeCay

quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

Malo fantasyja, malo horrora, malo krimića i malo drame, sve prošarano duhom muzike s kraja 60ih i hipi pokretom.
Stvarno ne znan kako bi bolje opisa, knjiga je jednostavno takva


Privukao te onaj gitarista na naslovnici, priznaj!

Meni se nekako ne da čitati Martinove ostale knjige, ne bih si htio pokvariti okus Igara vatra i leda u slučaju da ostali romani nisu tako dobri. Nekako mi ovi Armagedon rag i Fevre dream izgledaju kao hororci.



Yep Na prvi pogled me naslovnica privukla, a onda kad sam pročita kratak sadržaj na stražnjoj korici, mora sam je odma kupit jer me baš zainteresiralo. A čuj, nemaš šta pokvarit, čak i ako ti se ovo ne svidi, Pjesma Vatre i Leda će idalje ostat odlična stvar

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panzer
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Posted - 07/11/2012 : 09:20:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send panzer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mladjo

ok, thnx

Inače, za čitatelje SIRIUSA, preporučam Martinovu KRALJEVI PIJESKA, objavljenu u broju 99. Remek - djelo



Ima i TV verzija:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandkings

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Posted - 07/11/2012 : 10:07:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Čovječe, nisam pojma imal
thnx

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