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dosada
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 16:36:33
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da se malo poigramo jezikom ulice i probame ocijenit i one filmske elemente koje manje ocjenjujemo, mi laici. S obzirom da je film umjetnost koja spaja nekoliko drugih, idemo videti kak su se te druge umjetnosti izrazile u pojednim naslovima. Za početak legendarna Casa!
priča-ljubavna s elemtima općih ljudskih karakteristika u teškim vremenima. Vrlo zanimljivo ispirčana zahvaljujući dobrom scenariju i humirističnim dijalozima! gluma- spontana i upečatljiva! scenografija- solidna, pogorovo kaj ovdje nije riječ o filmu za kojeg se očekival neki posebni uspjeh pa nije ni priprema bila posebna. Ovo je samo jedan od pedeset filmova koje je `wood u to vreme snimal. kinematografija (vizualizacija)- nenadmašna, kak vele u dokumentarcu "slikanje sjanama". Majstorstvo M. Kersetza (Curtiza)! glazba (zvukovi i sl.)- Steinerov klasicni posel, zvukovi stopljeni sa slikom a glavna tema se čuje taman svaki put kad je to potrebno. Vrlo dobro!
opći dojam- Vrhunski klasik kojem su se zvezde i kreativnost odlično poklopile...
popis filmova: Casablanca Apocalypse Now Appaloosa TP Fire Walk With Me Il grande silenzio Tko pjeva zlo ne misli O Brother, Where Art Thou? Punishment Park Dark Star Barfly Waterland Kill Bill Two-Lane Blacktop Cemetery Without Crosses McCabe and Mrs Miller Naked Lunch Prometheus Down by Law
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Edited by - dosada on 30/08/2013 20:03:11
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mcn
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lwood
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 17:31:19
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ništa posebno. možda i je bia nešto u svoje vrime,danas ne. pogleda bi ga ponovo jedino pod prijetnjom streljanjem  |
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dosada
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 17:40:38
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i jebiga...jel da crtam a crtati ne znam. Tema je predviđena da se se rasclani film i da vidimo koliko se obračaju pozornosti na ostale filmske segmente. A vi sad raspredate o tome jel vam film dobar ili nije. Kakav vam je film uopće nije bitno!
Bitno je ocijenit ostale elemente filma koje sam uostalom i izdvojil!
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Darth Ivan
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dosada
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 18:16:27
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quote: Originally posted by Darth Ivan
moje pitanje je: zašto je uopće otvoren topic samo zbog tog filma?
...kao i obično je potpuno promašeno.
quote: Originally posted by dosada
da se malo poigramo jezikom ulice i probame ocijenit i one filmske elemente koje manje ocjenjujemo, mi laici. S obzirom da je film umjetnost koja spaja nekoliko drugih, idemo videti kak su se te druge umjetnosti izrazile u pojednim naslovima. Za početak legendarna Casa!
znači ne i za kraj, imena filmova bi se trebala izmjenjivat. Ali kak vidim da ste u stanju same gluposti pisati a ne se držati teme i bit konstruktivni, onda je vjerojatno početak ujedno i kraj!
p.s. vidiš DI da stalno dolazimo do rezoniranja napisanog i zate sam ti spominjal faks. Ovak rezonirat stvari...... |
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lwood
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 18:28:23
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quote: Originally posted by dosada
i jebiga...jel da crtam a cvrtati ne znam. Tema je predviđena da se se rasclani film i da vidimo koliko se obračaju pozornosti na ostale filmske segmente. A vi sad raspredate o tome jel vam film dobar ili nije. Kakav vam je film uopće nije bitno!
Bitno je ocijenit ostale elemente filma koje sam uostalom i izdvojil!
Hvala 
a šta me briga za segmente ako mi se film ne sviđa?
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 18:28:29
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quote: Originally posted by dosada
...kao i obično je potpuno promašeno.
a ova tema je potpuno nepotrebna, kao i obično.
quote: znači ne i za kraj, imena filmova bi se trebala izmjenjivat. Ali kak vidim da ste u stanju same gluposti pisati a ne se držati teme i bit konstruktivni, onda je vjerojatno početak ujedno i kraj!
p.s. vidiš DI da stalno dolazimo do rezoniranja napisanog i zate sam ti spominjal faks. Ovak rezonirat stvari......
kak smo mi svi glupani, a ti jedini pametan (kao i uvijek)...zamisli ti to! |
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 18:32:14
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
a šta me briga za segmente ako mi se film ne sviđa?

onda je bar lako. samo u svakom napišeš sranje, sranje, sranje    |
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Mord
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 18:39:39
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Pa kad kazes da nesto ne bi gledao ponovo obicno to znaci da ti prica nije bila nesto spektakularno i da gluma nije toliko dobra da izvuce malo losiju pricu. Tako da su komentari skroz ok.
Ajmo dalje, super tema. Mene bas zanima sto ljudi misle o tim nekim klasicima.
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lwood
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 18:47:04
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quote: Originally posted by Darth Ivan
quote: Originally posted by lwood
a šta me briga za segmente ako mi se film ne sviđa?

onda je bar lako. samo u svakom napišeš sranje, sranje, sranje   
bah,to nema smisla.ka šta napisah,možda je taj film bia zakon u svoje vrime .uziman u obzir vremenski odmak  |
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 18:58:21
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
bah,to nema smisla.ka šta napisah,možda je taj film bia zakon u svoje vrime .uziman u obzir vremenski odmak 
ne možda, nego sigurno.
ali ja te skroz razumijem. koliko god ti filmovi iz tog "klasičnog" hollywoodskog studijskog razdoblja bili popularni u svoje vrijeme, upravo je fora u tome - svaki je bio napravljen s obzirom na svoje mogućnosti u to vrijeme, tako da ih je iz današnje perspektive jako teško ocijeniti. |
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dosada
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 19:00:38
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quote: Originally posted by Mord
Pa kad kazes da nesto ne bi gledao ponovo obicno to znaci da ti prica nije bila nesto spektakularno i da gluma nije toliko dobra da izvuce malo losiju pricu. Tako da su komentari skroz ok.
Ajmo dalje, super tema. Mene bas zanima sto ljudi misle o tim nekim klasicima.
ok, gluma i priča vjerojatno nisu...ali zakaj ti se npr. ne bi svidla fotografija ili muzika u nekom filmu koji ti nije dobar?
Da se bar netko potrudi odgovoriti na temu kak treba...
ps. lwood i društvo u RH je generalno sranje, ali ipak ima dosta segmenta koji su i više nego ok  |
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lwood
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 19:03:41
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quote: Originally posted by dosada
quote: Originally posted by Mord
Pa kad kazes da nesto ne bi gledao ponovo obicno to znaci da ti prica nije bila nesto spektakularno i da gluma nije toliko dobra da izvuce malo losiju pricu. Tako da su komentari skroz ok.
Ajmo dalje, super tema. Mene bas zanima sto ljudi misle o tim nekim klasicima.
ok, gluma i priča vjerojatno nisu...ali zakaj ti se npr. ne bi svidla fotografija ili muzika u nekom filmu koji ti nije dobar?
Da se bar netko potrudi odgovoriti na temu kak treba...
ps. lwood i društvo u RH je generalno sranje, ali ipak ima dosta segmenta koji su i više nego ok 
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 20:35:16
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quote: Originally posted by mcn
Meni je to kao Čarobnjak iz Oza: gledao sam jednom, bilo mi je okej, pogotovo za svoje vrijeme, ali nikad nisam shvatio globalnu onaniju oko bilo kojeg od ta dva filma i nisam ih nikad poželio pogledati ponovo.
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Eto, to je otprilike i moje mišljenje, s tim da mi je Čarobnjak iz Oza ostao u boljem sjećanju  |
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 21:01:52
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quote: Originally posted by dosada Za početak legendarna Casa!
priča-ljubavna s elemtima općih ljudskih karakteristika u teškim vremenima. Vrlo zanimljivo ispirčana zahvaljujući dobrom scenariju i humirističnim dijalozima! gluma- spontana i upečatljiva! scenografija- solidna, pogorovo kaj ovdje nije riječ o filmu za kojeg se očekival neki posebni uspjeh pa nije ni priprema bila posebna. Ovo je samo jedan od pedeset filmova koje je `wood u to vreme snimal. kinematografija (vizualizacija)- nenadmašna, kak vele u dokumentarcu "slikanje sjanama". Majstorstvo M. Kersetza (Curtiza)! glazba (zvukovi i sl.)- Steinerov klasicni posel, zvukovi stopljeni sa slikom a glavna tema se čuje taman svaki put kad je to potrebno. Vrlo dobro!
opći dojam- Vrhunski klasik kojem su se zvezde i kreativnost odlično poklopile...
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Mali_Mate
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 21:03:00
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quote: Originally posted by dosada
da se malo poigramo jezikom ulice i probame ocijenit i one filmske elemente koje manje ocjenjujemo, mi laici. S obzirom da je film umjetnost koja spaja nekoliko drugih, idemo videti kak su se te druge umjetnosti izrazile u pojednim naslovima. Za početak legendarna Casa!
priča-ljubavna s elemtima općih ljudskih karakteristika u teškim vremenima. Vrlo zanimljivo ispirčana zahvaljujući dobrom scenariju i humirističnim dijalozima! gluma- spontana i upečatljiva! scenografija- solidna, pogorovo kaj ovdje nije riječ o filmu za kojeg se očekival neki posebni uspjeh pa nije ni priprema bila posebna. Ovo je samo jedan od pedeset filmova koje je `wood u to vreme snimal. kinematografija (vizualizacija)- nenadmašna, kak vele u dokumentarcu "slikanje sjanama". Majstorstvo M. Kersetza (Curtiza)! glazba (zvukovi i sl.)- Steinerov klasicni posel, zvukovi stopljeni sa slikom a glavna tema se čuje taman svaki put kad je to potrebno. Vrlo dobro!
opći dojam- Vrhunski klasik kojem su se zvezde i kreativnost odlično poklopile...
priča: manje me impresionirala sama priča koliko pojedini dijalozi u njoj
gluma: ovo je povezano s prethodnom stavkom, iz mnogih današnjih usta rečenice koje mnogi znaju napamet zvučale bi užasno i forsirano...B&I su to izveli perfektno
scenografija: za studijski holivudski film iz četrdesetih, sasvim prosječna
kinematografija: briljantna -> napravit od spomenute scenografije neke scene bilo je pravo umijeće
muzika: uglavnom nisam obraćao pozornost, jedino mi se bljuvalo (a bljuje mi se i danas) na onu Marseljezu u birtiji.... |
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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 23:06:39
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
bah,to nema smisla.ka šta napisah,možda je taj film bia zakon u svoje vrime .uziman u obzir vremenski odmak 
taj film je klasik i zacudio bi se koliko je njegova prica suvremena.. kad ga gledas iz prave perspektive.  |
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 23:08:59
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quote: Originally posted by Just_Charlie
taj film je klasik i zacudio bi se koliko je njegova prica suvremena.. kad ga gledas iz prave perspektive. 
suvremena?
u tadašnje vrijeme (40-e godine 20. st.) svakako.
danas? ne. |
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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 23:14:33
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quote: Originally posted by Darth Ivan
quote: Originally posted by dosada
...kao i obično je potpuno promašeno.
a ova tema je potpuno nepotrebna, kao i obično.
quote: znači ne i za kraj, imena filmova bi se trebala izmjenjivat. Ali kak vidim da ste u stanju same gluposti pisati a ne se držati teme i bit konstruktivni, onda je vjerojatno početak ujedno i kraj!
p.s. vidiš DI da stalno dolazimo do rezoniranja napisanog i zate sam ti spominjal faks. Ovak rezonirat stvari......
kak smo mi svi glupani, a ti jedini pametan (kao i uvijek)...zamisli ti to!
momci, ne znam nista o vama iz profila na koji nisam zavirivala ..mozda poslije hocu ..ali, smatram da ste ovdje jednostavno - premladi. Nije niti to grijeh ..ali, pustite ...  |
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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 23:20:12
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quote: Originally posted by Darth Ivan
quote: Originally posted by Just_Charlie
taj film je klasik i zacudio bi se koliko je njegova prica suvremena.. kad ga gledas iz prave perspektive. 
suvremena?
u tadašnje vrijeme (40-e godine 20. st.) svakako.
danas? ne.
bejbe, ta prica ti se vrti svakodnevno, ali je ti ne bi prepoznao ni da ti je u strip pretvore  |
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 23:24:52
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quote: Originally posted by Just_Charlie
bejbe, ta prica ti se vrti svakodnevno, ali je ti ne bi prepoznao ni da ti je u strip pretvore 
a po čemu znaš da je tako kako ti kažeš? bejbe? |
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manhunter
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Posted - 27/12/2012 : 23:32:06
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Odlična tema. Imali smo nešto slično u topicu "oceni film", ali zašto da ne. Kasnije i ocene iz studija u Alpima. :) |
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