Author |
Topic  |
tinton
stripovi.com suradnik
    
United Kingdom
19815 Posts
Member since 23/10/2011 |
|
maddox031
Senior Member
   
Croatia
1941 Posts
Member since 23/09/2011 |
Posted - 13/01/2013 : 16:42:53
|
svagdanja borba 1 je jedini fibrin rasprodani naslov kojeg nikak nemogu nabavit :D
Ima li kakvih razlika izmedju originalnog Pakla i ovog, osim u tirazu u cijeni ? |
There can be only one, me! |
 |
|
Markos
Webmaster
    

Croatia
29481 Posts
Member since 27/08/2001 |
|
austin
Junior Member
 

Serbia
400 Posts
Member since 15/07/2009 |
Posted - 14/01/2013 : 13:05:19
|
hm....radije bih imao integral nego pojedinacne albume...problem sa prostorom je uvek prisutan :) Bilo bi super da najavish malo ranije kad bude planirana svagdanja ...da na vreme prodam moje pojedinacne albume. Pakao sam iz nekog razloga mislio da si odustao od reprinta, a kako mi je jedini falio u Orka biblioteci , nabavih ga nedavno pristojno ocuvanog za originalnu cenu koliko je kostao...mada bi mozda radije uzo glanc novi za iste pare :) I jedna zamerka....iskreno kojim si rezonom dosao do toga da Mebijusa inicijalno stampas u samo 500 primeraka....a da na drugoj strani reprintujes pomenute naslove....ne da mi nije jasno nego ... pre ces se zakopas sa jos 300 Paklova nego da odradis jos 500 Mebijusa. Pa Inkal ti se i pored Vistinog :P i Sistemovog izdanja , rasprodao bez problema...to ti je trebao biti neki pokazatelj za status koji Mebijus uziva na ovim prostorima. Mali detalj - u Beogradu su se u striparnicama, posle par godina nedolazenja, pored potpuno novih lica ,pojavljivali pojedinci samo da pokupe tvog Mebijusa ;) |
Dr. Evil: Quid pro-quo, Mr. Powers. Austin Powers: Yes, squid pro row. |
Edited by - austin on 14/01/2013 13:15:52 |
 |
|
Markos
Webmaster
    

Croatia
29481 Posts
Member since 27/08/2001 |
Posted - 14/01/2013 : 13:17:05
|
300 Paklova košta jedno 6 puta manje nego 500 kutija Moebiusa:) Što se statusa i ugleda Mebijusa tiče, sve je to meni bilo jasno, ali s druge strane, to čudo košta 600 kuna. U današnje vrijeme je to ljudima velik novac, nisam vjerovao da će ljudi biti spremni izdvojiti ga "za jedan strip". |
Trouble will find me |
 |
|
austin
Junior Member
 

Serbia
400 Posts
Member since 15/07/2009 |
Posted - 14/01/2013 : 20:23:48
|
kosta to cudo 600 kuna, ali i izgleda to chudo bas ko pravo chudo - ubedljivo najbolji dizajn od svih kolekcija koje su izasle (francuska,nemacka....), izbor papira je fantastichan....ja sam se raspametio kad sam ga uzeo u ruku! O sadrzaju da ne govorim....al ne mogu da prezalim sto nisam uzeo i onaj francuski integral Les annees metal hurlant :((( Izgleda da Mebijusovas udovica ne da ni francuzima da ga reprintuju u c/b....vec su samo odradili istu edition USA kolekciju..il sam to cak negde ovde na forumu procitao. |
Dr. Evil: Quid pro-quo, Mr. Powers. Austin Powers: Yes, squid pro row. |
 |
|
Poli
Advanced Member
    

Slovenia
38181 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
Posted - 14/01/2013 : 20:34:08
|
nekima 600 kuna, nekima 500 na IL, nekima 480 kod Lastana... :)
razumijem da Marko nije riskirao u startu, ali ocigledno bi se sigurno moglo prodati jos 250 kutija, znaci reprint?
|
Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
|
 |
|
Paka01
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
11449 Posts
Member since 14/02/2009 |
|
Paka01
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
11449 Posts
Member since 14/02/2009 |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 16:20:42
|
Nešto sam tražija po forumu i naiša na ovo. Simpatično je pročitat ova 2 posta (posebno boldane dijelove) iz današnje perspektive 
quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by The Hammer of Hell
Uz pretpostavku da se proda samo pedesetak komada domaćeg izdanja "From hell", bi li bilo jeftinije obustaviti sve radove u ovom trenutku, prije samog tiskanja, ili riskirati sa knjigom koja bi mogla biti najneprodavanije domaće strip-izdanje svih vremena?
Ne podjebajem, nego stvarno mislim da bi ova moglo oboriti sve rekorde: crtež, uvjetno rečeno, neatraktivan; dostupno na engleskom, tako da ga je većina zainteresiranih već nabavila/pročitala; gust i hermetičan tekst, sa brdom anotacija; debelo, tako da je zbog toga cijena, gledano apsolutno, veća. Perfect Storm.
Ima skupih filmova koji propadnu na blagajnama i praktično unište filmska studija koja ih produciraju. Bilo bi šteta da se tako nešto dogodi i Fibri.
Cijena bi trebala biti 250 kn, a kako je englesko izdanje u MC 230, ali u mekanim koricama, ne bih rekao da je to nesto posebno skuplje. Moje pesimisticke, ali relativno realne prognoze su da ce se prodat otprilike 150 komada (knjiznice 40, Hrvatska 60, Slovenija 10, Srbija 30), sto je otprilike dovoljno da se plati tisak. Dakle, otprilike sam u minusu za prava i prijevod, nekih 3000 Eura, ali da se sve obustavi sada, taj mi minus i dalje ostaje:) Stoga nema smisla nista obustavljati. S druge strane, nikad ne znas kako ce ljudi nesto prihvatiti. Da mi je netko prije godinu dana ponudio okladu da cu prodati 300 primjeraka Svagdanje borbe, a samo 140 Crvenog gospodara, kladio bih se u sve sto imam da necu, nego da ce biti obrnuto... Enivej, nije bitno. Sigurno necu propasti samo zbog From Hella.
|
Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud
https://www.last.fm/user/Pakaa |
 |
|
Shiva314
Junior Member
 

Croatia
336 Posts
Member since 16/07/2004 |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 09:17:12
|
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Možda. Ali sigurno ne u naredne dvije godine.
Drago mi je da će ići reprint Alvara, nije važno što neće biti tako brzo kao što bi volio. Ionako sam ih pročitao, a u knjižnici ih mogu posuditi kad ih se zaželim. Bravo i za reprint Pakla, te najavljeni integral Svagdanje. |
I am the Lord of all Evil...but you can call me Cookie |
 |
|
Amos
Senior Member
   

Croatia
2896 Posts
Member since 03/01/2011 |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 10:22:31
|
Vrag odnija i taj Pakao! Imam onaj Knockaboutov SC i nisam baš raspoložen za dupliranje , ali imam "gut feeling" da bi trebalo kupiti i ovaj. Malo stvari bih duplirao.. Možda još Watchmene, s tim da bih svakako prodao engleski, što kod Pakla nije slučaj. Dupliranje prvenstveno radi prijevoda na hrvatski i boljeg razumijevanja.
Drugi reprinti mi nisu zanimljivi jer ono što sam htio imati tj. Alvara i Eternauta već imam, a Svagdanja me baš bogznašto i ne zanima.
|
Uža san gledati Inspektora Rexa, ali odusta san kad su prominili pasa. |
 |
|
Poli
Advanced Member
    

Slovenia
38181 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 12:53:49
|
quote: Originally posted by Amos
a Svagdanja me baš bogznašto i ne zanima.
Samo da neces pozaliti jednog dana. 
|
Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
|
 |
|
Amos
Senior Member
   

Croatia
2896 Posts
Member since 03/01/2011 |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 13:33:56
|
quote: Originally posted by Poli
quote: Originally posted by Amos
a Svagdanja me baš bogznašto i ne zanima.
Samo da neces pozaliti jednog dana. 
Gledajući strogo s kolekcionarskog gledišta, mislim da bi svakako bilo oportuno kupiti ovaj integral zato da bi ga se imalo kao nešto što bi moglo predstavljati određenu vrijednost u budućnosti. A vjerojatno hoće biti određena vrijednost, jer ne vjerujem da će se netko drugi upustiti u daljnja izdavanja ovoga stripa.. Osobno me puno ne dira perspektiva mogućih budućih vrijednosti stripova koje kupujem jer kupujem za gušt, a ne iz nekih drugih pobuda.
Na forumu je veliko oduševljenje ovim stripom, ali mene baš ne obara s nogu. Daleko od toga da je loš, onako solidan slajs of lajfić, na momente odličan.
Blast mi je puno bolji Larcenetov rad (barem ovaj 1. dio). |
Uža san gledati Inspektora Rexa, ali odusta san kad su prominili pasa. |
 |
|
NESVRSTANI
Advanced Member
    

Croatia
10519 Posts
Member since 08/02/2006 |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 14:41:47
|
quote: Originally posted by Amos
Na forumu je veliko oduševljenje ovim stripom, ali mene baš ne obara s nogu. Daleko od toga da je loš, onako solidan slajs of lajfić, na momente odličan.
Blast mi je puno bolji Larcenetov rad (barem ovaj 1. dio).
Slajs of lajfić   Sram te bilo . Ja za Blast recimo ne kužin čemu oduševljenje. Ne samo kod tebe. od više ljudi san čuja da in je odličan. Biće da je do mene... |
Doli sve stranke!!! Živili naši dušmani!!! |
 |
|
Poli
Advanced Member
    

Slovenia
38181 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 14:55:38
|
Ja kod Blasta 1 jos ne znam zapravo pri cemu sam. Tek se mora razviti odnosno mora se negdje usmeriti... tu u prvom broju mi jos nesto fali da bi mogao povuci pravi zakljucak. Ali na prvu loptu mi nije blizu Svagdanje borbe. No, ako nas u 2. i 3. broju povuce odnosno nesto potresno se dogodi... jer trenutno (jos) nemam previse empatije za glavnog junaka.
|
Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
|
 |
|
anto
Advanced Member
    

Serbia
21454 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 15/02/2013 : 20:11:40
|
Započeh sa Paklom. Pročitao sam prolog i dve glave. Ide polako, ali uživanje je maksimalno. to be continued ...
@Jerko složio bih se u potpunosti sa tobom oko Blasta i Svagdanje - moraće Larsene da još punooooo potrudi u Blastu da bi došao do kvaliteta Svagdanje borbe
Edit: završena 7-a glava. Nema šta - strip koji se ne ispušta iz ruku. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
Edited by - anto on 16/02/2013 01:20:21 |
 |
|
Zlotvor
Advanced Member
    

7094 Posts
Member since 03/02/2010 |
|
lwood
Advanced Member
    

Colombia
47468 Posts
Member since 09/12/2005 |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 13:32:31
|
quote: Originally posted by Zlotvor
anto meštre, zar si ti tek sada nabavia Pakao ili se varan?
ka ono puno je propustia  |
depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala |
 |
|
Poli
Advanced Member
    

Slovenia
38181 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 13:33:17
|
A kako nisi pricekao DW?
Drukcije, sigurno da je From Hell top shit sto se stripova tice - like svih vremena. Ajd, uz ovako pripremljenu "pricu" je i crtez (skoro pa) nebitan. Mada je ona "masonska voznja po Londonu" majstorsko nacrtana.
|
Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
|
 |
|
anto
Advanced Member
    

Serbia
21454 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 13:57:01
|
@Zlotvor Nabavio sam ga u zimu 2009/2010, od tipa koji ga je prodavao na aukcijama.Tada je već bio rasprodat.A tek sad je došao na red za čitanje.
@lwood pa mogu ti reći, da bih propustio puno
@poli objasnih sve u odgovoru zlotvoru.Nisam te najbolje razumeo - tebi je strip top shit ili? |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
 |
|
vladar
Average Member
  

Serbia
773 Posts
Member since 05/09/2002 |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 14:57:21
|
quote: Originally posted by maddox031
svagdanja borba 1 je jedini fibrin rasprodani naslov kojeg nikak nemogu nabavit :D
Cini mi se da je ovog albuma bilo prosle nedelje u striparnici Alan Ford. Neko je doneo na prodaju svoju kolekciju Fibrinih albuma, medju kojima sam nasao Eternauta. Imaju (imali su) i Pakao/prvo izdanje i veliku vecinu starijih Fibrinih izdanja. |
 |
|
Poli
Advanced Member
    

Slovenia
38181 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 15:19:22
|
@anto I sam sam ga procitao, cini mi se tek prosle godine na moru, a kupio na Interliberu 2008. Nekako "predebeo" je izgledao, crtez me nije privlacio a i nekako sam ocekivao da ce mozda tesko da mi padne. Kad ono stripcina koju retko dobivas u ruke. Ma, ovo je puno vise od samo dobrog ili odlicnog stripa. 
top shit = do jaja, vrh, svrs 
|
Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
|
 |
|
anto
Advanced Member
    

Serbia
21454 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 17:10:34
|
quote: Originally posted by Poli
@anto I sam sam ga procitao, cini mi se tek prosle godine na moru, a kupio na Interliberu 2008. Nekako "predebeo" je izgledao, crtez me nije privlacio a i nekako sam ocekivao da ce mozda tesko da mi padne. Kad ono stripcina koju retko dobivas u ruke. Ma, ovo je puno vise od samo dobrog ili odlicnog stripa. 
top shit = do jaja, vrh, svrs 
glavu bih dao da je top shit izraz za mega sranje, u negativnom smislu. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
 |
|
anto
Advanced Member
    

Serbia
21454 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 17/02/2013 : 20:15:09
|
Dva dana čitanja i završen Pakao (sinoć sam ga završio). Sa pravom nosi epitet jednog od najboljih stripova. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
 |
|
Poli
Advanced Member
    

Slovenia
38181 Posts
Member since 26/10/2007 |
|
Topic  |
|