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tinton
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Posted - 20/04/2014 : 16:56:20
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Zasto bi nesto za djecu moralo biti glupo i naivno. Nisu djeca maloumnici. |
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Rahazlam
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Posted - 20/04/2014 : 19:41:13
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quote: Originally posted by tinton
Zasto bi nesto za djecu moralo biti glupo i naivno. Nisu djeca maloumnici.
Pa gle dijete od 10 godina sigurno nije na razini covijeka od 30 godina bilo u fizickom ili psihickom smislu nije mu se jos razvila inteligencija i da nesto sto je za tebe glupo naivno i dosadno njemu je zabavno!!   |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 20/04/2014 : 21:16:59
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
Nego, u slijedećem broju je legendarna Saratoga, a tek se to ne može čitati od naive i gluposti. Ali hajde ti odoli...
A, što možemo, kada nas je to odgojilo u djetinjstvu! Tko može pucati iz topa u rukama? Nitko, osim Bleka! No, uzbudljivo je vidjeti prožimanje povijesnih elemenata i okolnosti, osobito povijesnih osoba, u tim epizodama (eto, u posljednjoj na Blekovom sprovodu, od Washingtona, preko Franklina, Jeffersona, Lafayita, pa do indijanskih poglavica). U Saratogi ćemo vidjeti i povijesni slijed bitke, sa nezaobilaznom završnicom i pomoći u zadnji čas trupa generala Arnolda, onog istog, koji će nekoliko godina poslije, od nacionalnog heroja kod Saratoge, postati najveći narodni izdajnik Amerike, jer će se prodati Englezima, kao visoki vojni i diplomatski špijun. To je ono što održava Mittonove epizode (naravno, zahvaljujući i scenaristima) na zadovoljavajućoj razini. A, o naivnosti... Toga nikada dosta, ali to je jednostavno razina tih stripova! Što bih, sada i ja, po tko zna koji put, trebao upozoriti na glupost u drugoj, Cedronijevoj epizodi, kada devedesetak godina prije što je izumljen, dinamitom (vide se lijepo svezani štapini)odvaljuju stijene! u Zagoru je to barem prihvatljivih 30-ak godina ranije... |
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sergej773
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Hajo
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Posted - 20/04/2014 : 23:12:32
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quote: Originally posted by sergej773
Ne vredjajte mi Bleka, da nije njega, sta bih ja citao u WC-u?
Ono što piše po šamponima.  |
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sergej773
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Cuba
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Posted - 20/04/2014 : 23:38:40
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quote: Originally posted by Hajo
quote: Originally posted by sergej773
Ne vredjajte mi Bleka, da nije njega, sta bih ja citao u WC-u?
Ono što piše po šamponima. 
Hahaha, ova ti je dobra.  |
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velka031
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Posted - 20/04/2014 : 23:40:52
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quote: Originally posted by Hajo
quote: Originally posted by sergej773
Ne vredjajte mi Bleka, da nije njega, sta bih ja citao u WC-u?
Ono što piše po šamponima. 
I to je nekad manji smor od Bleka  |
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tinton
stripovi.com suradnik
    
United Kingdom
19812 Posts
Member since 23/10/2011 |
Posted - 21/04/2014 : 10:25:21
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quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
quote: Originally posted by tinton
Zasto bi nesto za djecu moralo biti glupo i naivno. Nisu djeca maloumnici.
Pa gle dijete od 10 godina sigurno nije na razini covijeka od 30 godina bilo u fizickom ili psihickom smislu nije mu se jos razvila inteligencija i da nesto sto je za tebe glupo naivno i dosadno njemu je zabavno!!  
Ja sam upravo zbog naivnosti Bleka ostavio s 11 godina, isto tako, vecina djece je pametnije od pojedinih clanova ovoga foruma. |
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teller
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Slovenia
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Posted - 21/04/2014 : 10:46:11
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quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
quote: Originally posted by tinton
Zasto bi nesto za djecu moralo biti glupo i naivno. Nisu djeca maloumnici.
Pa gle dijete od 10 godina sigurno nije na razini covijeka od 30 godina bilo u fizickom ili psihickom smislu nije mu se jos razvila inteligencija i da nesto sto je za tebe glupo naivno i dosadno njemu je zabavno!!  
Ja sam upravo zbog naivnosti Bleka ostavio s 11 godina, isto tako, vecina djece je pametnije od pojedinih clanova ovoga foruma.
sta ti to treba?....vredat clanove foruma?... Bleka citam iz nostalgije a moj luka ga cita kad nema zagora novog... Ti si sazro kao sa 11 godina,ali to nije garancija da si pametniji...po takvim postovima covjek pomisli da si sa 11 i dosego svoj intelektualni vrh. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 21/04/2014 : 10:57:58
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quote: Originally posted by mogorovic Tko može pucati iz topa u rukama? Nitko, osim Bleka!
Lako je njemu pucati iz beztrzajnog topa.  |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:10:27
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quote: Originally posted by teller Bleka citam iz nostalgije
Ajde ti to objasni nekome tko ne zna što znači nostalgija jer za vrijeme Dnevnika nije bio niti u planovima. Naravno, malo tko od starijih čitatelja očekuje od Bleka neku realnost i ozbiljnost ali niti jedan stari serijal to nema (i Zagor također).   |
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tinton
stripovi.com suradnik
    
United Kingdom
19812 Posts
Member since 23/10/2011 |
Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:25:25
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quote: Originally posted by teller
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
quote: Originally posted by tinton
Zasto bi nesto za djecu moralo biti glupo i naivno. Nisu djeca maloumnici.
Pa gle dijete od 10 godina sigurno nije na razini covijeka od 30 godina bilo u fizickom ili psihickom smislu nije mu se jos razvila inteligencija i da nesto sto je za tebe glupo naivno i dosadno njemu je zabavno!!  
Ja sam upravo zbog naivnosti Bleka ostavio s 11 godina, isto tako, vecina djece je pametnije od pojedinih clanova ovoga foruma.
sta ti to treba?....vredat clanove foruma?... Bleka citam iz nostalgije a moj luka ga cita kad nema zagora novog... Ti si sazro kao sa 11 godina,ali to nije garancija da si pametniji...po takvim postovima covjek pomisli da si sa 11 i dosego svoj intelektualni vrh.
Koga sam vrijedao? Nisam rekao da sam ja sqzro s 11, niti sam htio isticati neku pamet, oces reci da na forumu nema osoba koje sam napisao? Meni je drago procitati ponekog Bleka, moja poenta je da djeca nece nuzno prihvatiti svaku glupost koja joj se servira, a ne govorim samo o sebi. |
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roby05
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Croatia
3020 Posts
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Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:31:35
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A sta je ozbiljnost,a sta neozbiljnost?Vecina danasnje ozbiljnosti spada u price o rupama bez dna,raznim zavjerama,dogadjajima...ali nije stvar u tome,vec u onima koji i kako te stvari shvacaju,dozivljavaju...i tko to sve servira,a to obicno bude palamudjenje,filozofiranje i sl.Prema tome,vecina ljubitelja Bleka i sl.junaka nema straha od nekakvog stopiranja serijala,a potcjenjivanja ce uvijek biti,dok oni "ozbiljniji" stripovi nisu bas naisli na puno plodnog tla.Stvar je i u tome sto ima ljudi koji usporedjuju svoje profesije sa stripovima,a one cesto nemaju nikakve veze sa istima.Samo da kazem,da ima srece,vecina djece bi rasla sa Blekom i sl.junacima,opcenito sa knjigom i stripom. |
Evala ti dalmatinski puce,pozdrav tebi s Poljuda Hajduce,nasem moru,galebu i skoju,Boze cuvaj Dalmaciju moju. |
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teller
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Slovenia
19112 Posts
Member since 02/06/2008 |
Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:38:05
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quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by teller
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
quote: Originally posted by tinton
Zasto bi nesto za djecu moralo biti glupo i naivno. Nisu djeca maloumnici.
Pa gle dijete od 10 godina sigurno nije na razini covijeka od 30 godina bilo u fizickom ili psihickom smislu nije mu se jos razvila inteligencija i da nesto sto je za tebe glupo naivno i dosadno njemu je zabavno!!  
Ja sam upravo zbog naivnosti Bleka ostavio s 11 godina, isto tako, vecina djece je pametnije od pojedinih clanova ovoga foruma.
sta ti to treba?....vredat clanove foruma?... Bleka citam iz nostalgije a moj luka ga cita kad nema zagora novog... Ti si sazro kao sa 11 godina,ali to nije garancija da si pametniji...po takvim postovima covjek pomisli da si sa 11 i dosego svoj intelektualni vrh.
Koga sam vrijedao? Nisam rekao da sam ja sqzro s 11, niti sam htio isticati neku pamet, oces reci da na forumu nema osoba koje sam napisao? Meni je drago procitati ponekog Bleka, moja poenta je da djeca nece nuzno prihvatiti svaku glupost koja joj se servira, a ne govorim samo o sebi.
onda oprosti,krivo sam te razumio...naravno da su dijeca danas razvijenija a mozda i pametnija...a mozda i nisu.... samo imaju vise gluposti na dosegu ruke pa su jim stripovi nezanimljivi...a osobe na forumu nebi komentirao...ja jih bar na tom blek topicu ne vidim...tu smo vise manje nostalgicari..i to je ok...cijeli zivot je nostalgija,stalno se covjek neceg prisjeca...neceg lijepog..zasto to nebi bili stripovi iz mladosti? Sve ok tintone i sretan ti ostatak praznika...ja nisam nesto pretjerano vjeran ali ovo sa jajima,lukom,sunkom...i nije lose. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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sergej773
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Cuba
1922 Posts
Member since 03/06/2012 |
Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:43:48
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
quote: Originally posted by Hajo
quote: Originally posted by sergej773
Ne vredjajte mi Bleka, da nije njega, sta bih ja citao u WC-u?
Ono što piše po šamponima. 
I to je nekad manji smor od Bleka 
Blek nikada nije smor.  |
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teller
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Slovenia
19112 Posts
Member since 02/06/2008 |
Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:44:34
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quote: Originally posted by roby05
A sta je ozbiljnost,a sta neozbiljnost?Vecina danasnje ozbiljnosti spada u price o rupama bez dna,raznim zavjerama,dogadjajima...ali nije stvar u tome,vec u onima koji i kako te stvari shvacaju,dozivljavaju...i tko to sve servira,a to obicno bude palamudjenje,filozofiranje i sl.Prema tome,vecina ljubitelja Bleka i sl.junaka nema straha od nekakvog stopiranja serijala,a potcjenjivanja ce uvijek biti,dok oni "ozbiljniji" stripovi nisu bas naisli na puno plodnog tla.Stvar je i u tome sto ima ljudi koji usporedjuju svoje profesije sa stripovima,a one cesto nemaju nikakve veze sa istima.Samo da kazem,da ima srece,vecina djece bi rasla sa Blekom i sl.junacima,opcenito sa knjigom i stripom.
to i je srz problema..klinci danas ne citaju, ne citaju ni knjige kamoli stripove..mozda se neki i navuce ako ga starci upute u taj cudesni svjet slikovnih prica... Danas je doba tehnologije a klinci tim koncernima najzanimljivija trzna populacija... Imaju sve a nisu sretni...mi smo imali samo stripove pa sretnu mladost..zanimljivo a? |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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tinton
stripovi.com suradnik
    
United Kingdom
19812 Posts
Member since 23/10/2011 |
Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:53:59
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quote: Originally posted by teller
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by teller
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Rahazlam
quote: Originally posted by tinton
Zasto bi nesto za djecu moralo biti glupo i naivno. Nisu djeca maloumnici.
Pa gle dijete od 10 godina sigurno nije na razini covijeka od 30 godina bilo u fizickom ili psihickom smislu nije mu se jos razvila inteligencija i da nesto sto je za tebe glupo naivno i dosadno njemu je zabavno!!  
Ja sam upravo zbog naivnosti Bleka ostavio s 11 godina, isto tako, vecina djece je pametnije od pojedinih clanova ovoga foruma.
sta ti to treba?....vredat clanove foruma?... Bleka citam iz nostalgije a moj luka ga cita kad nema zagora novog... Ti si sazro kao sa 11 godina,ali to nije garancija da si pametniji...po takvim postovima covjek pomisli da si sa 11 i dosego svoj intelektualni vrh.
Koga sam vrijedao? Nisam rekao da sam ja sqzro s 11, niti sam htio isticati neku pamet, oces reci da na forumu nema osoba koje sam napisao? Meni je drago procitati ponekog Bleka, moja poenta je da djeca nece nuzno prihvatiti svaku glupost koja joj se servira, a ne govorim samo o sebi.
onda oprosti,krivo sam te razumio...naravno da su dijeca danas razvijenija a mozda i pametnija...a mozda i nisu.... samo imaju vise gluposti na dosegu ruke pa su jim stripovi nezanimljivi...a osobe na forumu nebi komentirao...ja jih bar na tom blek topicu ne vidim...tu smo vise manje nostalgicari..i to je ok...cijeli zivot je nostalgija,stalno se covjek neceg prisjeca...neceg lijepog..zasto to nebi bili stripovi iz mladosti? Sve ok tintone i sretan ti ostatak praznika...ja nisam nesto pretjerano vjeran ali ovo sa jajima,lukom,sunkom...i nije lose.
Nisu djeca sad pametnija, nimalo. Slwzem se za hranu. Takodjer. |
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roby05
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Croatia
3020 Posts
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Posted - 21/04/2014 : 11:57:54
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quote: Originally posted by teller
quote: Originally posted by roby05
A sta je ozbiljnost,a sta neozbiljnost?Vecina danasnje ozbiljnosti spada u price o rupama bez dna,raznim zavjerama,dogadjajima...ali nije stvar u tome,vec u onima koji i kako te stvari shvacaju,dozivljavaju...i tko to sve servira,a to obicno bude palamudjenje,filozofiranje i sl.Prema tome,vecina ljubitelja Bleka i sl.junaka nema straha od nekakvog stopiranja serijala,a potcjenjivanja ce uvijek biti,dok oni "ozbiljniji" stripovi nisu bas naisli na puno plodnog tla.Stvar je i u tome sto ima ljudi koji usporedjuju svoje profesije sa stripovima,a one cesto nemaju nikakve veze sa istima.Samo da kazem,da ima srece,vecina djece bi rasla sa Blekom i sl.junacima,opcenito sa knjigom i stripom.
to i je srz problema..klinci danas ne citaju, ne citaju ni knjige kamoli stripove..mozda se neki i navuce ako ga starci upute u taj cudesni svjet slikovnih prica... Danas je doba tehnologije a klinci tim koncernima najzanimljivija trzna populacija... Imaju sve a nisu sretni...mi smo imali samo stripove pa sretnu mladost..zanimljivo a?
Ma nije ni da nismo imali (ja sam 1974.god.),ali svakako ne kao danasnja djeca.Sto kazes,imaju sve,ali nema zadovoljstva i one djecje radosti.Niti se znaju igrati,a kasnije ni razgovarati,s obzirom na sve sto ih okruzuje.Nisu oni krivi,krivi smo i mi roditelji i vrijeme u kojem zivimo.To je nadasve zanimljivo i tema o kojoj bi se trebali svi pozabaviti. |
Evala ti dalmatinski puce,pozdrav tebi s Poljuda Hajduce,nasem moru,galebu i skoju,Boze cuvaj Dalmaciju moju. |
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mogorovic
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3012 Posts
Member since 02/08/2013 |
Posted - 21/04/2014 : 22:31:59
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quote: Originally posted by roby05
A sta je ozbiljnost,a sta neozbiljnost?Vecina danasnje ozbiljnosti spada u price o rupama bez dna,raznim zavjerama,dogadjajima...ali nije stvar u tome,vec u onima koji i kako te stvari shvacaju,dozivljavaju...i tko to sve servira,a to obicno bude palamudjenje,filozofiranje i sl.Prema tome,vecina ljubitelja Bleka i sl.junaka nema straha od nekakvog stopiranja serijala,a potcjenjivanja ce uvijek biti,dok oni "ozbiljniji" stripovi nisu bas naisli na puno plodnog tla.Stvar je i u tome sto ima ljudi koji usporedjuju svoje profesije sa stripovima,a one cesto nemaju nikakve veze sa istima.Samo da kazem,da ima srece,vecina djece bi rasla sa Blekom i sl.junacima,opcenito sa knjigom i stripom.
Slažem se. |
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velka031
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Croatia
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Posted - 21/04/2014 : 23:19:49
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quote: Originally posted by sergej773
quote: Originally posted by velka031
quote: Originally posted by Hajo
quote: Originally posted by sergej773
Ne vredjajte mi Bleka, da nije njega, sta bih ja citao u WC-u?
Ono što piše po šamponima. 
I to je nekad manji smor od Bleka 
Blek nikada nije smor. 
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