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mcn
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 13:06:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Koje vam je u prosjeku najbolje domaće izdanje po pitanju prijevoda/tiska: AZ, Biser, PZ, VČ, BG ...?

I ima li netko usporedni popis?

mcn

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ninel
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 13:50:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ninel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
AZ, bez konkurencije.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRVtlTwFs8&feature=related
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verab
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 13:57:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send verab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ninel

AZ, bez konkurencije.


Apsolutno točno.

hejt, jal & rock 'n' roll
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Mord
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:08:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Imas odlican i prilicno detaljan i precizan usporedni popis u podforumu s popisima. Ako nesto nije jasno pitaj...
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mcn
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:11:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mord

Imas odlican i prilicno detaljan i precizan usporedni popis u podforumu s popisima. Ako nesto nije jasno pitaj...



A searchao sam ... valjda sam ćorav.

mcn

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mogorovic
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:12:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mogorovic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Po tisku - Bookglobe, a što se tiče prijevoda, tu su jedino kompetentne osobe koje znaju tečno francuski jezik, pa mogu uspoređivati original sa prijevodom.
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Mord
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:13:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29676&SearchTerms=Lucky
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Peyo
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:21:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Peyo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Po tisku teško da je netko nadmašio Bookglobe, iako osobno nisam imao prilike vidjeti PZ i VČ (a sumnjam da je veći broj ljudi vidio sva izdanja).

Osobno sam uspoređivao neke albume i epizode od AZ i BG s originalima i dao bih prednost AZ zbog duhovitijeg prijevoda. AZ znači Stripoteka tj. Biserstrip (ne znam kakav je prijevod u PZ i VČ pošrto ih nisam imao prilike čitati).
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mcn
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:23:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mord

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29676&SearchTerms=Lucky



Hvala, našao u međuvremenu - fakat detaljno (i ujedno izluđujuće). :)

@Mogo - kod humora je, rekao bih, važniji dojam u ciljnom jeziku nego vjernost originalu, ali nebitno. :)

mcn

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Mord
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:23:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Popis ti prati francuske albume. Imas autore, godine, gdje je sve objavljeno u ex-yu, brojeve spirou magazina u kojima je islo premijerno, pa cak i brojeve tabli... Uzivaj!
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Mord
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:25:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ukom smislu izludjujuce? 😀
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mcn
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:30:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mord

Ukom smislu izludjujuce? 😀



U regularnom: nit je tko išao po redu, nit je itko objavio sve ... A onda dodaj da najbolji prijevod vjerojatno ima najgori tisak. A meni jutros došlo da malo čitam, a tko zna u kojoj kutiji su AZ-ovi, Zovovi, Biseri itd. :)

mcn

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mogorovic
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:38:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mogorovic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcn

quote:
Originally posted by Mord

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29676&SearchTerms=Lucky



Hvala, našao u međuvremenu - fakat detaljno (i ujedno izluđujuće). :)

@Mogo - kod humora je, rekao bih, važniji dojam u ciljnom jeziku nego vjernost originalu, ali nebitno. :)

mcn





Onda ne možemo govoriti o prijevodu niti ga ocjenjivati, nego o obradi, interpretaciji i slično...
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 14:59:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send NESVRSTANI a Private Message  Reply with Quote
AZ prijevod je bez konkurencije. Tisak i tehnikalije Bookglobe.

Doli sve stranke!!!
Živili naši dušmani!!!
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Witchblade
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 15:12:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Witchblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Die hard - umri muški.
Vjeran prijevod? Teško.
Dobar prijevod? ... :)

"All deaths horrible. Also inevitable. Nod. Get treat."
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anto
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 15:57:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

AZ prijevod je bez konkurencije. Tisak i tehnikalije Bookglobe.


ovo

Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 16:18:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Prijevod Asteriksov zabavnik, makar mi ni u Biser stripu nije bio loš (s Tataličem, Taličitomom, selom Kozomuzigom i čime sve ne), a tisak i uvez definitivno Bookglobe.


Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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axle munshine
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Serbia
2351 Posts

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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 20:42:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Marketprintov prevod i adaptacija su neprevazidjeni...prevod jeste bitan, ali u ovom slucaju je mnogo bitnija adaptacija...a oko stampe, mislim da je nezahvalno uporedjivati izdanja i izdavace...narocito to sto su albumi AZ izlazili pre 40 godina, a neki albumi BG unazad nekoliko godina...Asteriksov Zabavnik je za vreme u kojem je izlazio, i to na kioscima, bio fascinantna edicija, pa i u stamparskom segmentu...tada prosto to nije moglo bolje...

...BD, c'est la vie...
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jaki
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 22:04:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
moglo je.

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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mogorovic
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 22:48:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mogorovic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Naravno da je moglo biti bolje. Morali su se čitati u laboratorijskim uvjetima, da se ne bi, ako ih malo jače otvoriš - raspali!
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ned_lynx
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 22:54:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ned_lynx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ono što je pito Macan, AZ.

Ono što kaže Jaki, grebeš ga, uvek je moglo bolje; no, ono što je tada iz Marketprinta proizašlo, za TO vreme, i za tu (tada formiranu - istovremeno previsoku kao i verovatno jedva isplativu) cenu, iskorak je ka nečemu što će, nažalost, tek decenijama kasnije doći - ili je tek na višlisti.

Piši propalo!
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DzekDenijels
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 23:18:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit DzekDenijels's Homepage  Send DzekDenijels a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

AZ prijevod je bez konkurencije. Tisak i tehnikalije Bookglobe.


+1

Carpe diem
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axle munshine
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 23:25:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

moglo je.



Kao na primer? Daj nesto konkretno iz tog perioda pa da zakljucimo da si ti u pravu...

...BD, c'est la vie...
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axle munshine
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 23:30:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ned_lynx

Ono što je pito Macan, AZ.

Ono što kaže Jaki, grebeš ga, uvek je moglo bolje; no, ono što je tada iz Marketprinta proizašlo, za TO vreme, i za tu (tada formiranu - istovremeno previsoku kao i verovatno jedva isplativu) cenu, iskorak je ka nečemu što će, nažalost, tek decenijama kasnije doći - ili je tek na višlisti.



Da, upravo to...uzeti u obzir vreme u kome je to izlazilo, tehnicke mogucnosti samih stamparija, pripreme, sve...pa se setiti ko je jos u exYu uspeo da izdaje SC kolor albume na kioscima...pa i mnogo godina i decenija kasnije...

...BD, c'est la vie...
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Johnny Difool
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/12/2015 : 23:46:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Khm...Otkriće sveta u stripu, recimo.


Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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axle munshine
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Serbia
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Posted - 29/12/2015 : 01:13:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Difool

Khm...Otkriće sveta u stripu, recimo.





Da, jeste, pocetkom osamdesetih...albume je jos izdavao DeNo i Marketprint (Feniks)...mozda je bilo jos neceg sporadicnog, ali nista duze i konstantno kao AZ...

...BD, c'est la vie...
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