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mr murdoc
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Posted - 30/01/2015 : 05:21:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Otomo je definitivno zasluzio ovo priznanje,

“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde
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Deers
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Posted - 30/01/2015 : 19:16:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote


The Bojeffries saga - Alan Moore & Steve Parkhouse

Biće u posljednjem stadiju organske materije koje pretvara ljude u pelargonije, vampir koji želi biti vegetarijanac i vukodlak posebno slab na pudlice su samo neki od likova ove britanske verzije obitelji Adams. Simpatično i uspjelo me tu i tamo nasmijat kako treba. Malo problematično dok se ne navikneš na sve jezične anomalije (kojih ima dosta). Meni je ovo bilo najzanimljive baš zbog toga jer je to prvi Mooreov strip čisto humoristični (ako zanemarim epizode iz Tomorrow stories).

"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam."
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Ignus
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Posted - 31/01/2015 : 14:12:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ignus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Upravo sam se dočepao Mooreovog runa na Miraclemanu. Fantastično. Preporučujrm i onima kojima su 'supergaćeše' inače odbojni, možda promjene mišljenje.

Zar nitko nece pomoci udovicinu sinu?
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 31/01/2015 : 15:17:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zadnji par dana prepustih se "drugom citanju" Vendete i nakon toliko godina od prvog citanja spoznah da mi je danas ovaj strip jos bolji, ukoliko je moguce nadmasiti cistu desetku sa kojom sam ga jos onda ocijenio

http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46107&whichpage=5

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swamp thing
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Posted - 31/01/2015 : 18:29:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send swamp thing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deers



The Bojeffries saga - Alan Moore & Steve Parkhouse

Biće u posljednjem stadiju organske materije koje pretvara ljude u pelargonije, vampir koji želi biti vegetarijanac i vukodlak posebno slab na pudlice su samo neki od likova ove britanske verzije obitelji Adams. Simpatično i uspjelo me tu i tamo nasmijat kako treba. Malo problematično dok se ne navikneš na sve jezične anomalije (kojih ima dosta). Meni je ovo bilo najzanimljive baš zbog toga jer je to prvi Mooreov strip čisto humoristični (ako zanemarim epizode iz Tomorrow stories).


Da, dobar je Bojeffries, meni stiže s amazona za 15 dana, baš da ponovo pročitam...
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KuntaKinte
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Posted - 31/01/2015 : 21:23:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send KuntaKinte a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deers



The Bojeffries saga - Alan Moore & Steve Parkhouse

Biće u posljednjem stadiju organske materije koje pretvara ljude u pelargonije, vampir koji želi biti vegetarijanac i vukodlak posebno slab na pudlice su samo neki od likova ove britanske verzije obitelji Adams. Simpatično i uspjelo me tu i tamo nasmijat kako treba. Malo problematično dok se ne navikneš na sve jezične anomalije (kojih ima dosta). Meni je ovo bilo najzanimljive baš zbog toga jer je to prvi Mooreov strip čisto humoristični (ako zanemarim epizode iz Tomorrow stories).


Ili ja nisam uspeo da pohvatam sve Mooreove fore ili ovaj strip nije dovoljno duhovit. Ili oba?

Edited by - KuntaKinte on 31/01/2015 21:24:30
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Deers
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Posted - 01/02/2015 : 03:04:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by KuntaKinte
Ili ja nisam uspeo da pohvatam sve Mooreove fore ili ovaj strip nije dovoljno duhovit. Ili oba?



Pa više bih rekao da je zabavan nego smiješan, dobar dio humora gradi na apsurdu (vampir vegatarijanac je samo jedan od tih) a instant gegovi ispadaju dosta jeftini. Mada su me i oni nasmijali. Na kraju to je ipak dosta kratak strip sa tek par priča.

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boddhisatva
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Posted - 01/02/2015 : 08:57:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send boddhisatva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
stari opaki brijač, čital sam članak o njemu i koliko dnevno propješači po gudurama i vrištinama, pa bogtepitaj koje sve scenarije on vrti i premeće po glavi ... ;o))

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Lyle Gorch: Why not?
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zveles
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Posted - 30/05/2015 : 22:43:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Izašla je prva sveska (od 12) novog Mooreovog serijala. Više je spooky nego klasičan horror, ako je suditi po ovom broju, inspirirana životom i djelom H.P. Lovecrafta. Tako New York 1919. godine djeluje zastrašujuće sa, recimo, likom koji usred ljeta stan hladi do nule zbog bolesti. Ili s postojanjem Exit Gardens kupola čije je društveno prihvaćeno postojanje strašnije od bilo kojeg čudovišta. Priča je uistinu maestralno vođena i Moore obrnutim slijedom zatvara postavljanje okvira za likove i priču koji će uslijediti. Čista petica.

Edited by - zveles on 30/05/2015 22:45:44
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Deers
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Posted - 22/11/2015 : 16:45:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tomorrow Stories 1, 2-Moore, Nowlan, Veitch Baike, Gebbie, Barta,...

Mislim da se Moore kao i kod TTTT serije beskrajno zabavljao pišući ovo. Zapravo, sve onu što nije mogao ubaciti u Tom Strong serijal a što mu je ležalo na duši je izbacio kroz ovo u seriji kratkih priča za životopisnim likovima. Osobno su mi najdraže bile priče Jacka B. Quicka i Greyshirta. Što zbog svoje dovitljivosti što zbog ekspirementiranju sa jezikom stripa. F.A i U.S.Angel su imali dobrih i loših epizoda, ali kao kritika superheroja funkcioniraju. Najgore kod ovih loših epizoda bilo to što su bile naporne. Splash je također kritika ali ne samo superheroja već cjelokupne američke stripovske industrije, zanimljiv i zbog toga što često probija četvrti zid. Cobweb me najmanje oduševila mada ima i ona par jako dobrih epizoda.

Kad ih se čita u komadu može doći do prezasićenja. Kako se radi o kratkim epizodama od 6 stranica priča je dosta sabita tako da vjerojatno ostavlja bolji dojam kao mjesečni magazin.

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C Celtic
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Posted - 22/11/2015 : 21:00:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send C Celtic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONGJs1l19aU


What a long strange trip it's been
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Deers
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 12:51:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Miracleman 1-3

Koja luda vožnja od dječje naivnosti do odrasle Utopije. Jedan jako dobro sročen elaborat o nadljudima. A ova Utopija je ne što što će Moore i dalje pisat sve do Prometheje kad konačna promjena ljudi neće morat biti materijalna.
Sad čekamo gaimana, ovaj vrtoglavi uspon je stao na točki zenita i sada je nužno da padne.

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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 10:20:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send PijaniPatak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gde to Moore kritikuje Millerov 300 (i navodne promašaje u njemu)?

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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 10:43:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send PijaniPatak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Završih V for Vendeta

Au

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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 10:45:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send PijaniPatak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovaj BP ću, pak, da poklonim. Hvala Bogu imam nekog ko voli to i ceni.
Drugo čitanje će morati da bude Fibrino izdanje.

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kasper
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 10:55:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Gde to Moore kritikuje Millerov 300 (i navodne promašaje u njemu)?



zasto navodne, strip je dno dna
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kasper
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 10:55:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PijaniPatak

Ovaj BP ću, pak, da poklonim. Hvala Bogu imam nekog ko voli to i ceni.
Drugo čitanje će morati da bude Fibrino izdanje.



ha, pa zar nisi na 100 mesta na forumu vec video upozorenje za BP Vendetu?
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 11:13:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PijaniPatak

Gde to Moore kritikuje Millerov 300 (i navodne promašaje u njemu)?


U ovom intervjuu:

http://www.honestpublishing.com/news/the-honest-alan-moore-interview-part-2-the-occupy-movement-frank-miller-and-politics/

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Mr. Bushido
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Također, ovdje:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070822172050/http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11201

quote:
Alan Moore said that had been precisely his goal with “Top Ten,” to tell a story with an ensemble cast of characters with widely varying ethnicities and sexualities, while at the same time not making those things much of an issue. “That seemed to be a decent way of approaching it, just not thinking about the sexuality of the character, but thinking about them as a character first, and then, if their sexuality happens to be gay or otherwise, then that's fine,” Moore said. “But you don't want sit down and think, ‘Oh, I wanna write a gay character.' You know, because that is incredibly condescending, and it's the wrong way to go about it.”

Moore singled out one aspect of Frank Miller's popular “300” as a particularly egregious example of poor research as it relates to GLBT issues. “There was just one particular line in it where one of the Spartan soldiers -- I'll remind you, this is Spartans that we're talking about -- one of them was talking disparagingly about the Athenians, and said, ‘Those boy-lovers.' You know, I mean, read a book, Frank. The Spartans were famous for something other than holding the bridge at Thermopylae, they were quite famous for actually enforcing man-boy love amongst the ranks as a way of military bonding.”

This fact actually featured prominently in Moore's eight-page graphic history of homosexuality, “Mirror of Love.” “That specific example probably says more about Frank's grasp of history than it does about his grasp of homosexuality, so I'm not impugning his moral situation there,” Moore clarified. “I'm not saying it was homophobic; just wasn't very well researched. You do still find regrettable examples of this, but I think that if people point them out when they arise, if they're debated, then that can only be a healthy thing.

“And there are some fantastic gay artists and writers out there who are doing a lot to change people's perception,” Moore continued. “Like the excellent Howard Cruse. I think that ‘Stuck Rubber Baby' was a fantastic piece of work. And more recently, Alison Bechdel with ‘Fun Home.'”

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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 11:19:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send PijaniPatak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kasper

quote:
Originally posted by PijaniPatak

Ovaj BP ću, pak, da poklonim. Hvala Bogu imam nekog ko voli to i ceni.
Drugo čitanje će morati da bude Fibrino izdanje.



ha, pa zar nisi na 100 mesta na forumu vec video upozorenje za BP Vendetu?



Nisam bre...video sam samo hvalospeve za priču kao priču, pa kada sam na Piku video BP verziju (a Beli Put me kvalitetom prevoda i štampe (osim u Hellblazeru po pitanju ovoga) još nije izdao - Nadzirači HC, Povratak Mračnog Viteza, Sandman itd. su odlični) za 10EUR nisam se puno razmišljao. Ali štampa je užas, prelom teksta katastrofa (tekst na nekim mestima ide van oblačića) i vidim da nedostaju one celostrane vinjete koje su prisutne na Fibrinom zaviru.

Slično zlodelo prema ovom Mooreovom dukatu ne sme da doživi zoru na mojoj skromnoj no ambicioznoj polici

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kasper
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 11:27:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Nisam bre...



a bre, citaj forum vise
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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 11:31:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send PijaniPatak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kasper

quote:
Originally posted by PijaniPatak

Gde to Moore kritikuje Millerov 300 (i navodne promašaje u njemu)?


zasto navodne, strip je dno dna


Ukusi. Priča mi je odlična tekstualno, konceptualno, grafički...sve mi je u njoj sjajno. Ako je priča promašila istorijske činjenice i van margina varijabli koje fikcija dozvoljava, to mi ne menja utisak o samom štivu, stripu kao stripu.

Ali "navodne" više ističem kao takve jer nisam pročitao tu Moorevu kritiku i nemam pojma o čemu je lik uopšte govorio.

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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 11:32:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send PijaniPatak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo ga Bushido, moj lični google. Hvala, brate!

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kasper
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Posted - 16/05/2016 : 11:36:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kasper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Ukusi. Priča mi je odlična tekstualno, konceptualno, grafički...sve mi je u njoj sjajno. Ako je priča promašila istorijske činjenice i van margina varijabli koje fikcija dozvoljava, to mi ne menja utisak o samom štivu, stripu kao stripu.



cinjenice su promasene namerno, da strip bude sto ogavniji. makar meni.
al vizuelano jeste dobar
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anto
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Posted - 19/05/2016 : 08:51:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kasper

quote:
Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Ukusi. Priča mi je odlična tekstualno, konceptualno, grafički...sve mi je u njoj sjajno. Ako je priča promašila istorijske činjenice i van margina varijabli koje fikcija dozvoljava, to mi ne menja utisak o samom štivu, stripu kao stripu.



cinjenice su promasene namerno, da strip bude sto ogavniji. makar meni.
al vizuelano jeste dobar


čekaj.Zajebavaš da ti je Milerov 300 loš strip?

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