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kasper
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kasper
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Posted - 11/12/2015 : 00:35:28
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nego, si ti za rumunski scenario kad su pocetkom proslog veka 30 posto reci, koje nisu rumunskog porekla, izbacili? |
Edited by - kasper on 11/12/2015 00:37:01 |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 11/12/2015 : 11:36:59
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
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quote: Originally posted by morski
u poslednjih 20 godina pojavio se prilican broj reci u hrvatskom jeziku koje mi je malo teze razumeti. ali je to, valjda, normalno. slicno je, pretpostavljam, i u srpskom jeziku.
U srpskom nema gotovo nikakvih promena. Ovo ratosiljati se postoji odavno. Naravno ima novotarija, ali samo za mlade, novi i sve idiotskiji sleng - diže mi se kosa na glavi kad čujem Vrh, brate!
Dok se kod vas izgleda non-stop ubacuju nove reči. Ali, izgleda da te nove upijaju samo mladi po školama. Nadam se da za 10-20 godina neću morati da koristim rečnik za čitanje LUD-LIB-FIB izdanja.
Ipak, nezaboravni obostrani pokušaj razdvajanja "istog" jezika mi je: Kod vas u domu radi kućanica, a kod nas u kući radi domaćica.
sve te "nove" odavno su odbačene. bilo je nekakvih pokušaja, ali više je ispala sprdnja. ako misliš na to, jer znam da se u Srbiji to preuveličavalo, kao dalekovidnica, zrakomlat i ostale idiotarije, pa i ono arhaično pisanje tc (metci). sve je to pokopano i nema ih više. naravno, onkraj nije nikakva nova riječ, kao ni mnoge koje se nisu smjele koristiti baš zato da ne razdvajaju "bratske" jezike. brzojav je uvijek bio brzojav, nikad telegram. pa i u AF-u.
Ovo za brzojav i telegram stoji, ali samo u pravopisu. U svakodnevnom govoru obje se riječi koriste ravnopravno, barem u Dalmaciji gdje su mi i bake i djedovi jednako kao i roditelji kod smrtnih slučajeva slali i jedne i druge.
Napokon, i danas izlazi tjednik Telegram (uz istoimeni sajt), kao što je Telegram izlazio i prije pola stoljeća.
kakve veze imaju standardni i svakodnevni razgovorni jezik? govorim o standardu. uvijek je bio brzojav, i u doba carevine i u doba kraljevine i u doba "najcrnjeg komunizma". novine su neko mjerilo? još ćeš mi citirati i tzv. novinu "jutarnji"????? kukavica i dodvorica te nepismenih snobova (koji zvuče pametnije ako upotrijebe tuđicu) uvijek je bilo. oni i jesu najzaslužniji za more tuđica i uništavanje jezika. tako je danas s engleskim.
Naravno da razgovorni jezik ima veze, jer tuđice koje se u njemu trajno prime prije ili kasnije uđu u standardni, pa su recimo anglizmi iz IT-sektora dobili mjesta u novim rječnicima hrvatskog jezika.
Nije bitan sadržaj novina ili "novina" na koji ti prebacuješ lopticu, nego činjenica da se novine danas zovu Telegram, kao što su se zvale i prije 50 godina, pa je imenica telegram trajno ravnopravna u razgovornom jeziku, u kojem se koristi možda i podjednako kao i brzojav.
To što ona iz razlikovnih razloga nema mjesto u standardu, to je drugi par rukava.
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Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 11/12/2015 : 11:46:23
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
tradicija tu treba imati prednost. izgleda da jesu konkistadori, ali 200 se godina piše i govori konkvistadori i to tako treba ostaviti. kao i uskršnji otok, iako je pridjev uskrsni, vaskrsni, a ne -šnji. no što mpavin kaže, naši su mali jezici daleko najugroženiji engleskim. zbilja to jesu preseravanja pokondirenih tikava, koji tako misle da zvuce pametnije. nema ničega goreg od toga. ničega. zato, unatoč blesavim talijanima, mora biti zimska zmija a ne nekakav winter debilni snake. u Srbiji imamo npr. često korištenje riječi "bekstejdž", kakva grozota. a u hrvatskoj se svi političati trude govoriti tako da ni sami ništa ne razumiju, samo da zvuči. preseravanje na kvadrat.
Pretpostavljam da nikad nisi gledao Sedmu noć i Bravo, dodjele Porina i Crnih mačaka, izbore za Pjesmu Eurovizije i Doru, prijenose koncerata i glazbenih festivala, gdje sve vrvi od bekstejdža i grin ruma, jednako kao i od ivenata, selebova i ostalih zvizdarija.
I zamisli, i naši voditelji/ce nikad ne kažu zapozorje, nego uvijek bekstejdž. Ali vjerujem da ti je to ipak poznato, ali zgodno zvuči da u Srbiji izgovaraju "takve grozote".
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Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Koresh
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Posted - 12/12/2015 : 12:49:18
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2 odlične priče u ovom broju, i milijun ponavljanja riječi "zaboga!" i "stjenica" :D
predivan strip serijal, mora do kraja |
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1Euro
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Posted - 12/12/2015 : 12:57:41
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quote: Originally posted by Koresh
2 odlične priče u ovom broju, i milijun ponavljanja riječi "zaboga!" i "stjenica" :D
predivan strip serijal, mora do kraja
o čemu govore ove dvije priče? |
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Koresh
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Posted - 12/12/2015 : 13:14:20
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quote: Originally posted by 1Euro
quote: Originally posted by Koresh
2 odlične priče u ovom broju, i milijun ponavljanja riječi "zaboga!" i "stjenica" :D
predivan strip serijal, mora do kraja
o čemu govore ove dvije priče?
dvije "kaubojske" priče, u prvoj Divlji Bill Hickok postaje šerif Abilenea kako bi održao mir u gradu punom kauboja koji traže zabavu i nevolje. druga priča je o sukobu između dvoje rančera, uz odličan crtež Polesea |
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DODSFERD
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1Euro
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Posted - 12/12/2015 : 15:40:52
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quote: Originally posted by Koresh
quote: Originally posted by 1Euro
quote: Originally posted by Koresh
2 odlične priče u ovom broju, i milijun ponavljanja riječi "zaboga!" i "stjenica" :D
predivan strip serijal, mora do kraja
o čemu govore ove dvije priče?
dvije "kaubojske" priče, u prvoj Divlji Bill Hickok postaje šerif Abilenea kako bi održao mir u gradu punom kauboja koji traže zabavu i nevolje. druga priča je o sukobu između dvoje rančera, uz odličan crtež Polesea
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kasper
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Posted - 14/12/2015 : 09:49:36
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pitanjce oko znacenja reci iz stripa Cudovise iz mocvare 1
ima tu deo kad Mocvarko ode iza zivota, da vrati Abigel, gde kaze da je dosao u oblast zazivota. sad, on je sa druge strane zivota, kako to moze biti zazivot, ima li tu neko objasnjenje ove reci/kovanice? |
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izivko
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piquet
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Posted - 23/02/2016 : 15:11:33
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stigao broj 27 u SNK |
"I kako se može razaznati je li neciji jezik iskren, ako mu ne gledamo u lice dok govori i ako ne slušamo zvuk njegovih rijeci?" |
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ivan_micic
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teller
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Posted - 23/02/2016 : 18:43:55
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quote: Originally posted by piquet
stigao broj 27 u SNK
i naslovnica iz Dnevnika UGASENE VATRE,,bar mislim.odlicna je.meni nostalgicna jako. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 23/02/2016 : 18:51:02
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Danas oko podne gledao i nije bilo nikakvih novosti na web shopu. Veseli svaki broj PSDZ a pogotovo kada stigne malo ranije kao ovaj. |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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velka031
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El Morisco
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Posted - 23/02/2016 : 22:44:17
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Ako sam dobro shvatio u sitnim ćaskanjima s Bernijem, mora se riješiti goleme količine remintende starih brojeva PSDZ (nažalost!), pa tek onda novi broj pobroj idu van, ali nema brige, sve do kraja je serijal otkupljen i spreman za naše gladne oči |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 23/02/2016 : 23:39:07
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Još će se nekako pregurati tih 11 brojeva pa makar išli svaka 3-4 mjeseca i zatim slijedi uživanje u kolekciji za cijeli život. |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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emirem
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 17/07/2016 : 22:49:25
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Mi ćemo dobiti svih 38 dvobroja, Bernard je ozbiljniji od Francuza. |
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Posted - 18/07/2016 : 01:21:23
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Mi ćemo dobiti svih 38 dvobroja, Bernard je ozbiljniji od Francuza.
bernard je picka. |
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