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thekide
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Serbia
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Posted - 27/11/2016 : 13:02:25
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Da mi je znati koji je fanatik sam sebe uvjerio da je tamo neki Morgan vrijedan tolikog škrabanja. 
Pa vrednost nema veze sa količinom škrabanja. To ti je više do scenariste koji svojim ubacivanjem svega i svačega u priču, izazove fanatika da mu odgovori istom merom. |
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thekide
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Serbia
1811 Posts
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Posted - 27/11/2016 : 13:03:04
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Inače, po mojim mjerama petica je loša ocjena, čak sam i zadnjem maxiju "Legija ubojica" dao po šesticu za priču i scenario, a iskreno, priča je mnogo lošija od ovog Hellingena.
Znači ti imaš sličan sistem kao Jerry na Nathanu - omiljeni strip junak ne može dobiti manju ocenu od petice.
To je ok, al da li zaista zaslužuje iste ocene (6 i 5) kao i Bosellijev Hellingen (koji je bar meni bio odličan)? Ne znam, samo pitam, nisam još pročitao Buretovog, čuvam ga za sledeće leto. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 27/11/2016 : 16:10:16
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quote: Originally posted by thekide
Znači ti imaš sličan sistem kao Jerry na Nathanu - omiljeni strip junak ne može dobiti manju ocenu od petice.
Ne znam kako je kod Jerryja, ali kod mene nije bas tako: http://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/zagor-zg-lusp-16-smrtonosna-mocvara/1109/
quote: Originally posted by thekide
To je ok, al da li zaista zaslužuje iste ocene (6 i 5) kao i Bosellijev Hellingen (koji je bar meni bio odličan)? Ne znam, samo pitam, nisam još pročitao Buretovog, čuvam ga za sledeće leto.
To je vec dobar argument. Ne, ne zasluzuje, Bosellijev je ipak koliko toliko bolji. Mada, moja ukupna ocjena Bosellijevog je 70%, dok ce kod ovog biti niza. Mislim da je najbolje da Bosellijevom dam 6,6, tako ce ovaj biti jos komad losiji, pa je onda sve ok. |
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
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Posted - 27/11/2016 : 20:37:16
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To je jedan od ona 3 specijala koja nisam čitao, znači da nisam puno propustio i da je stvarno loš kada si mu dao tako niske ocjene (a ni kod ostalih se puno ne razlikuju). |
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King Warrior
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
10035 Posts
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Posted - 27/11/2016 : 23:56:57
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by solar
Kingova petica je isto tako za mene previše, realno, maksimalno može dobiti između četvorku, a i to je previše.
Spreman sam za kompromis, ali mi trebaju činjenice zašto manje od pet...
Onako kako ja gledam na ocene, 5 je minimalna za zanatski ispoštovan scenario, ali koji čitaoca ostavlja . Ono, niti smrdi niti miriše. Niti vređa inteligenciju niti sadrži pozitivne komponente. Burattinijev scenario u poslednjem Hellingenu ima nekoliko mesta u kojima čovek ne zna da li bi se gluposti smejao ili plakao, a koja itekako "vređaju" moj (niski ) IQ. Npr.scena u hodniku baze "Drugde" u kojoj Z raspravlja sa onim vojnicima pre nego što će se prvi put sresti sa Hellingenom u ćeliji. Prvo Zagor mlati na šta naleti, pa zatim mirno, kulerski i staloženo trkelja gluposti sa časnicima (čini mi se četiri ili pet strana) da bi onako retroaktivno i ničim najavljeno počeo opet da besni uz komentar "sad je dosta! zvučite poput matorih baba!" (kao da u razgovoru nije ni učestvovao onako kako jeste) i nanovo počeo da mlati sve oko sebe. Zatim, tu je tupavi proročanski san-rešenje problema sa Wendigom van svake pameti: zašto Wendigo uklanja klona, ako mu samo originalni Hellingen po starom paktu te docnije naplati računa pripada? Zašto Wendigo uklanja klona i tako spasava Zagora koji mu je veći trn u oku nego iko? Zašto Wendigo uopšte i na koji način štedi Zagora kad je već fizički prisutan na njegovom nivou stvarnosti? Dalje, nisam neki inženjer, ali kako to da je Golem savršeno jači, pokretniji i u mnogo čemu napredniji robot od svog navodno nadograđenog naslednika Titana? A ako ćemo globalnije, ne čini li ti se da odnos "akademskih razgovora" /"prepričavanja" i scena u kojima se nešto konkretno dešava onako baš nejednak pa se svi pogušismo živi dok ne dosegnemo finale epizode? Mnogo praznog hoda i mnogo sitnih nelogičnih debilana i "plot holes-a". Ja bih scenariju dao 3...bolju ne bih ni da je neki najbezvezniji nemesis posredi. Da mislim kako je ovo THE Hellingen, pala bi jedinica ko kuća
Izgleda da i mene čeka dug komentar kada recka izađe 
p.s. mislim da tebi ne moram da napominjem, ali ovo ne pišem da tebi solim pamet. Poteglo se pitanje i eto... |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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King Warrior
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Posted - 28/11/2016 : 09:26:44
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Odlicno. Dva para ociju vide bolje nego jedan. Ovakvi komentari su pozeljni, bez obzira da li u negativnom ili pozitivnom kontekstu. Osim dijela gdje raspravljaju u Drugdje, koji mi ipak djeluje nesto prirodniji nego tebi, slazem se sa napisanim, pogotovo sa dijelom kada Wendigo spasava Zagora. |
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/11/2016 : 15:21:10
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A tek sramotan prikaz Tajne baze Drugde koju su sveli na banalnu i nebitnu organizaciju koju cine samo dva agenta i neki glupi najobicniji vojnici koji ne mogu da je odbrane. Burattini je unistio svu misteriju i svo uzbudjenje koje bismo mogli da osecamo kada se spominje njeno ime jer ju je pretvorio u potpunu banalnost. Zatim kabina za teleportaciju koja se sama od sebe popravlja! Akcije gotovo da nema nikakve sem glupih i nepotrebnih borbi sa vojnicima i banditima. Ima barem 100 strana nepotrebnih dijaloga i objasnjavanja price i onoga sta rade glavni likovi. Nema nikakve spektakularnosti, niti osecaja bitne price koji su imali svi prethodni Hellingenovi sukobi sa Zagorom.
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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Posted - 28/11/2016 : 15:44:29
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To oko baze Drugde je vec potez koji se subjektivno vrednuje. Neko ima jednu viziju toga, a autori nesto skroz trece. A ovo oko strana...pa, mislim da bi bilo interesantno znati broj tabli sa tim šupljim pričama, čisto da bi se lakse utvrdila dinamika i ritam. Znam da sam ja bukvalno prebrojao koliko "Smrtonosna utrka" ima strana flashbackova a koliko centralne linije samo da bi mi se jasnije ukazalo kako stvari realno stoje u toj prici |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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King Warrior
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Posted - 28/11/2016 : 19:27:57
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Sto se tice baze Drugdje, pa stvoreni je 1776, Zagorovo vrijeme je oko 1830-35. Bili su jos u pionirskim stazama, cak je mladjahni Hellingen za njih radio i bili su napraedna ustanova jos i tada. Pa ne znam, razvoj baze mi izgleda logican vremenu u kojem se nalazi. |
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King Warrior
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thekide
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Serbia
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thekide
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Serbia
1811 Posts
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Posted - 01/12/2016 : 13:21:41
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NOVEMBAR-STUDENI
I evo nas već u decembru. Dok smo se okrenuli godina nam prolete. Posle odličnih 7 SBE recenzija objavljenih u oktobru, ponovo smo se vratili na stari prosek od 4 nove recke u novembru. To je i bilo očekivano, ali zato imamo skok u rezervacijama.
Posle tužna dva i po meseca bez novih rezervacija, konačno su se stvari razmrdale i sa 7 novih zahteva veselo plovimo ka novoj Godini. |
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Korg
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Ireland
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thekide
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Serbia
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Posted - 01/12/2016 : 15:27:13
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quote: Originally posted by Korg
Evo ti i 8. Rezerviraj mi MM VČ 24 Meteori
Ubačeno.
Samo ne može pod 8, nego pod 1 u decembru. Stroga je kontrola, ne smem da se zezam sa štelovanjem starih računa. |
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Korg
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igor 12
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Posted - 03/12/2016 : 16:43:42
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Danas, nakon manjih korekcija poslana recka deecayu na uvid.Kide, daj mi rezerviraj Banda petorice. Bang, pardon,četvorice. Bang,bang trojice.Ups, dvojice... |
Vamos a la playa tralalalala |
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Rahazlam
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Croatia
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Posted - 03/12/2016 : 17:15:15
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by thekide
Znači ti imaš sličan sistem kao Jerry na Nathanu - omiljeni strip junak ne može dobiti manju ocenu od petice.
Ne znam kako je kod Jerryja, ali kod mene nije bas tako: http://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/zagor-zg-lusp-16-smrtonosna-mocvara/1109/
quote: Originally posted by thekide
To je ok, al da li zaista zaslužuje iste ocene (6 i 5) kao i Bosellijev Hellingen (koji je bar meni bio odličan)? Ne znam, samo pitam, nisam još pročitao Buretovog, čuvam ga za sledeće leto.
To je vec dobar argument. Ne, ne zasluzuje, Bosellijev je ipak koliko toliko bolji. Mada, moja ukupna ocjena Bosellijevog je 70%, dok ce kod ovog biti niza. Mislim da je najbolje da Bosellijevom dam 6,6, tako ce ovaj biti jos komad losiji, pa je onda sve ok.
Bosellijev Hellingen je najbolji,tek onda demoni. |
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Elderane84
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 03/12/2016 : 17:59:53
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Ja nemam obicaj previse ispod 5 da dajem. Puno mi je 10 nijansi, navikao sam u školi da se uklapam u 5 ocjena i to je to. |
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thekide
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/12/2016 : 18:00:16
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quote: Originally posted by igor 12
Danas, nakon manjih korekcija poslana recka deecayu na uvid.Kide, daj mi rezerviraj Banda petorice. Bang, pardon,četvorice. Bang,bang trojice.Ups, dvojice...
Ubačeno. |
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kucak
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
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Posted - 04/12/2016 : 14:57:51
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Naravno da može, čudno kako takva legendarna priča još nema recenziju. |
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kiky
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Posted - 04/12/2016 : 18:12:52
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ako netko od "zagorelih" želi, može mi slobodno pomoći u prikupljanju zanimljivosti za specijalku CHRISTOPHER MORA UMRIJETI. prijedloge mi pošaljite u privatne poruke.
hvala. |
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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thekide
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Serbia
1811 Posts
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Posted - 04/12/2016 : 21:34:29
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quote: Originally posted by kucak
Može li rezervacija Mister No Lib br. 5 Riječni pirati?
Ubačeno. Lepo što se vraćaš recenziranju. |
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