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Obi-wan
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 18:22:22
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Poll Question:
U zadnjih nekoliko godina, pojavilo se podosta starih i odlično očuvanih stripova iz edicija Zlatna Serija i Lunov Magnus Strip koje je štampao Dnevnik Novi Sad. Ti stripovu se prodaju po paprenim cijenama naspram kojih minimalna plata izgleda kao smijurija. Cijene su tolike da to više nije džeparac, kolekcionarstvo, prodaja duplikata već vrlo unosan posao. U skladu s tim, pojavile su se i određene sumnje u legitimitet i originalnost tih stripova. Kada je u pitanju novac oko čega se na žalost vrte naši životi, sve je moguće.
Šta vi mislite o toj temi. Da li su to stripovi sačuvani od prije 50 godina ili se štampaju vjerne kopije ?
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Edited by - Obi-wan on 02/04/2017 18:24:26
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izivko
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Croatia
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 18:29:15
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quote: Originally posted by izivko
Vjeruj meni, sve je to nanovo tiskano, dakle kopije.
Imaš neka saznanja ili čisto logikom? |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 19:26:51
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Ovisi kako koji. Ima i jedno i drugo. Ali mislim da se bez obzira na glanc očuvanost, vrlo dobro može razlikovati papir/strip star 30-50 godina i nešto friško štampano.Nakon nekoliko desetljeća negdje u stripu mora biti sakriven i zub vremena. |
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Obi-wan
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Croatia
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 19:39:06
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quote: Originally posted by morski
ma, svakako su to stampane kopije, to se barem lako vidi, cak i na slikama.
Ako se lako vidi, zašto ljudi onda plaćaju toliki novac? |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 19:49:48
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E jbg. ovo su već besmislice... Ima jebenih starih očuvanih stripova... kroz ruke su mi mnogi prošli, kući ih imam masu, i ko ih želi platiti, pa šta? Imaš-nemaš. Mercedes-fićo... Kupi me prodaj me... Idemo dalje... |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 19:56:28
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quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
quote: Originally posted by izivko
Vjeruj meni, sve je to nanovo tiskano, dakle kopije.
Imaš neka saznanja ili čisto logikom?
Logika. Ova nova izdanja su i bolja. Da me zanimaju, uzimao bi ove kopije. |
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lwood
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 19:57:15
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ima tu svega,i štampanja i očuvanih stripova. kolekcioniranje starih stvari s vremenom postaje sve pipavije, i ne samo za stripove. |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 20:18:49
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Ja mislim da su originali, jer ako navodno postoji ekipa koja to stampa kao sto se sluti,ja mislim da koliko god da su spretni, nebi godinama mogli "uzmicati" iskusnim kupcima-kolekcionarima i kad tad bi ih neko od nas provalio. Oko sokolovo neko ima npr.:-) Pa tako naivni i glupi mislim da nismo??? ILI??? Ja nisam vidio jos da je neko se javio i rekao:"kupio sam i platio br.248 ZS npr.(lupam-100€)i mogu dokazati da je kopija"! Dakle,dok je sve ok i kupci zadovoljni,nema razloga za paniku:-) |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 20:31:32
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quote: Originally posted by bihac-una
Ja mislim da su originali, jer ako navodno postoji ekipa koja to stampa kao sto se sluti,ja mislim da koliko god da su spretni, nebi godinama mogli "uzmicati" iskusnim kupcima-kolekcionarima i kad tad bi ih neko od nas provalio. Oko sokolovo neko ima npr.:-) Pa tako naivni i glupi mislim da nismo??? ILI??? Ja nisam vidio jos da je neko se javio i rekao:"kupio sam i platio br.248 ZS npr.(lupam-100€)i mogu dokazati da je kopija"! Dakle,dok je sve ok i kupci zadovoljni,nema razloga za paniku:-)
Možda bi se u igri za takve sume mogao nabaviti odgovarajući papir i stroj tako da ta kopija izgleda isto kao original pa je nemoguće vidjeti razliku (jer je nema), a također niti dokazati išta.![](icon_smile_question.gif) |
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velka031
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 21:36:23
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Stara ižvakana tema, ali me uvek nanovo uveseljava ..
Neka neko pusti link ovde ili na nekom drugom sajtu gde se vidi ponuda tih stripova_? |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 22:44:47
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Dok ima kupaca, jebiga... Za mene ovo ništa ne vrijedi! Nula. Te stripove sam čitao u 3-4 izdanja, piraterija, ne hvala. |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 22:53:01
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Vrlo je jednostavno i lako uociti razliku. Ova gori kopija je cak i uradjena vrhunski,za razliku od nekih drugih.Ipak bez obzira na upozorenje prodavaca,iz aviona je vidljivo da je kopija,cak i ovako na slici,a kamoli uzivo. |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 22:57:55
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Dok ima kupaca, jebiga... Za mene ovo ništa ne vrijedi! Nula. Te stripove sam čitao u 3-4 izdanja, piraterija, ne hvala.
ko zna koliko je para isisano na ovakvoj pirateriji. |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 22:59:35
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Nekoliko kopija imam,a prodavač je uredno naveo da su kopije. I to je razlika kao nebo i zemlja,i slijepac bi vidio da su kopije,ali takva je i cijena. Ali-negdje na facebooku imam jednu talijanku koja restaurira stare stripove,pa i Zagora i razne knjige,lijepo je prikazano prije i poslije stanje stripa i jako lijepo to radi. Eh,sad-dali sumnjati ili ne sumnjati-ako ona može tako dobro restaurirati može li se i cijeli strip tako napraviti cijeli,a da izgleda kao stari??? |
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Posted - 02/04/2017 : 23:28:07
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Ko ne veruje da postoji kopija a lepo stoji da je doštampano, ima problem .
Ali to nije suština topica. Ja još čekam da neko pusti link gde je papreno prodata verna kopija sa opisom originala.![](icon_smile.gif)
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quote: Originally posted by miskod66
Ovde stoji da su doštampani brojevi, ništa sporno![](icon_smile.gif)
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by logo111
https://www.kupindo.com/Bonelli-stripovi/35007847_ZAGOR-komplet-LMS-41-komad
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krivo si me razumija. sporno je šta neki ne viruju da uopče postoje ikakve kopije.
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Posted - 03/04/2017 : 01:40:25
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Vidio sam jako veliki broj kopija ZS i LMS. Nema apsolutno nikakve šanse (znači 0%) da se uživo ne skuži da je strip kopija. Ali apsolutno nikakve. Možda ovako netko sa slike i može povjerovati za kopiju da je original ali uživo - nema šanse. Tako da mislim da su svi ti stari primjerci koji su prodani stvarno originali. |
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