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TrOMISLAWSKI
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863 Posts
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Posted - 17/09/2017 : 11:45:23
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26.09.17. u snk 27.09.17. na kioscima
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Nisam ja kriv za tipfelere, sami su se pojavili. |
Edited by - solar on 17/09/2017 12:07:16
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wolf
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4577 Posts
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Posted - 17/09/2017 : 12:45:42
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Demoni u rijeci... Kao da je bilo jučer kad sam ovo uzimao na kioscima. Slijedeća dva ako se dobro sjećam su Sierra Blanca i Crvena orhideja, a onda Hellingen (taj bi mogao ići i u 4 izvedbe naslovnica). Potom ona storija s boksom, pa onda onaj luđak koga svaki put zaboravim kako se zove (iz ZS 603/604), a onda vampir v2. Solidni klasici za neko vrijeme. |
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teller
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Slovenia
19107 Posts
Member since 02/06/2008 |
Posted - 17/09/2017 : 12:56:39
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Obe naslovnice su prekrasne...a strip..zabavan,nije neko mozganje veliko ali mi je to oduvjek dobra prica..Donatelli odlican..
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CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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anto
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Serbia
21396 Posts
Member since 29/06/2008 |
Posted - 17/09/2017 : 14:17:00
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uvek me zbuni kad vidim ovakva gramatička konstrukcija. U srpskom je to Male ubice,a u hrvatskom Mali ubojice. |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
Edited by - anto on 17/09/2017 14:17:16 |
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
29953 Posts
Member since 14/03/2014 |
Posted - 17/09/2017 : 15:17:24
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Čitao je samo jednom u extra izdanju, dosta toga sam zaboravio iako nije bila loša priča. Prva naslovnica puno bolja od druge. |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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RAKOSI4
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5077 Posts
Member since 23/07/2016 |
Posted - 17/09/2017 : 15:46:01
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Mislija sam ga ne kupit , nedavno sam ga pročita priko interneta .Priča je pitka i dobra ,uz olovku dobrog Donatelija , mislim da ću kupit 1 primjerak ,obe naslovnice su dobre  |
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 17/09/2017 : 15:51:55
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quote: Originally posted by anto
uvek me zbuni kad vidim ovakva gramatička konstrukcija. U srpskom je to Male ubice,a u hrvatskom Mali ubojice.
naravno da te zbuni kad su i u hrv. male ubojice. riječ je o ribama, a ne dječacima ili pigmejima. jedino što je ovdje malo je prevoditeljičin mozak. |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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ivanl
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Croatia
15809 Posts
Member since 24/04/2012 |
Posted - 17/09/2017 : 22:19:21
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by anto
uvek me zbuni kad vidim ovakva gramatička konstrukcija. U srpskom je to Male ubice,a u hrvatskom Mali ubojice.
naravno da te zbuni kad su i u hrv. male ubojice. riječ je o ribama, a ne dječacima ili pigmejima. jedino što je ovdje malo je prevoditeljičin mozak.
yep, moram se složiti s konstantacijom! Ali na ovoj prvoj copertini, ovaj prvi,u prvom planu, "mali ubojica", je sve samo ne mali... kompoziciji slike unatoć, pogrešnoj ili ne? |
Los cukar na fritulama! |
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D.J.
stripovi.com suradnik
    

USA
7143 Posts
Member since 21/07/2002 |
Posted - 17/09/2017 : 23:43:43
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by anto
uvek me zbuni kad vidim ovakva gramatička konstrukcija. U srpskom je to Male ubice,a u hrvatskom Mali ubojice.
naravno da te zbuni kad su i u hrv. male ubojice. riječ je o ribama, a ne dječacima ili pigmejima. jedino što je ovdje malo je prevoditeljičin mozak.
 Kad sam procitao sto si napisao, imao sam deja vu. E sad ne znam jel je bila jos neka taka epizoda sa slicnom upotrijebom rijeci mali u naslovu i tvojim slicnim komentarom, ili je stvarno deja vu. |
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epicentercomics/three-new-zagor-graphic-novels |
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
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Posted - 18/09/2017 : 11:30:50
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Ne sjećam se točno, ali valjda ova ista epizoda kad je izašla u ediciji ZsEKS |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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D.J.
stripovi.com suradnik
    

USA
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Quebrasco
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Croatia
2265 Posts
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zeljko
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
17844 Posts
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zlatan bihac
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
7799 Posts
Member since 24/03/2009 |
Posted - 19/09/2017 : 11:27:05
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pa tako nekako i dodje...previse se zamaramo oko prevoda, gramatike i sl. meni je to najmanji problem..ionako imate slike pa i sami vidite sta se desava u stripu...nije to sad neka strucna literatura ili neki bestseleri.. |
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ivanl
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Croatia
15809 Posts
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 11:46:02
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quote: Originally posted by zeljko
na kraju krajeva koga briga sve je to prdimahovina
Prdimahovina! Nisam to do sad čuo... Dobra! Može i prdiludana što mi koristimo... Ali smatram da se na prijevod mora paziti. Nije svaki isti i istog značenja. Najbolji primjer za to je legendarni Alan Ford koji nakon prijevoda legendarnog Nenada Brixia nije više bio iste snage, šarma i kvalitete kod nekih drugih izdavaća. Nakon Vijesnika naravno. |
Los cukar na fritulama! |
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mogorovic
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 19/09/2017 : 15:55:26
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quote: Originally posted by zlatan bihac
pa tako nekako i dodje...previse se zamaramo oko prevoda, gramatike i sl. meni je to najmanji problem..ionako imate slike pa i sami vidite sta se desava u stripu...nije to sad neka strucna literatura ili neki bestseleri..
da, to su samo glupi stripovi, je l' de? zato i jesmo i ostat cemo zauvijek balkan ilitiga supak svijeta. posve zasluzeno. treba nas sve zgazit', ionako samo pognemo glavu, blejimo i klanjamo se mitskim bicima. |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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PijaniPatak
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Germany
10035 Posts
Member since 20/02/2010 |
Posted - 19/09/2017 : 16:02:37
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by zlatan bihac
pa tako nekako i dodje...previse se zamaramo oko prevoda, gramatike i sl. meni je to najmanji problem..ionako imate slike pa i sami vidite sta se desava u stripu...nije to sad neka strucna literatura ili neki bestseleri..
da, to su samo glupi stripovi, je l' de? zato i jesmo i ostat cemo zauvijek balkan ilitiga supak svijeta. posve zasluzeno. treba nas sve zgazit', ionako samo pognemo glavu, blejimo i klanjamo se mitskim bicima.
Stara balkanska "ne talasaj". Dobro je što imamo išta, ne valja menjati, samo ćuti i jbš to. |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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ivanl
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Croatia
15809 Posts
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 17:57:51
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by zlatan bihac
pa tako nekako i dodje...previse se zamaramo oko prevoda, gramatike i sl. meni je to najmanji problem..ionako imate slike pa i sami vidite sta se desava u stripu...nije to sad neka strucna literatura ili neki bestseleri..
da, to su samo glupi stripovi, je l' de? zato i jesmo i ostat cemo zauvijek balkan ilitiga supak svijeta. posve zasluzeno. treba nas sve zgazit', ionako samo pognemo glavu, blejimo i klanjamo se mitskim bicima. Ma iako se donekle slažem, nije valjda sve tako crno... Ja sam masu vani RH-a i nije ti ni prilično idealno ni na zapadu ili istoku ove"balote". Nije nama ovde loše. A za stripove se itekako slažem da su sve samo ne glupi, dapače, ima ih masa inteligentnih i zanimljivih. Možda je problem u onome ko ih pročita pa ih ne razumije.
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senokute
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Germany
1367 Posts
Member since 08/01/2011 |
Posted - 19/09/2017 : 18:28:54
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quote: Originally posted by zlatan bihac
pa tako nekako i dodje...previse se zamaramo oko prevoda, gramatike i sl. meni je to najmanji problem..ionako imate slike pa i sami vidite sta se desava u stripu...nije to sad neka strucna literatura ili neki bestseleri..
Totalno pogrešan stav Zlatane. Loš papir-može. Loš otisak-može. Najgori crtež na svijetu-može. Loš prijevod-može. Ali gramatika mora diti ispravna-to nema alternativu. (Nadam se da sam ovo gramatički korektno napisao:)jbg, 23 godine odsutan. |
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zlatan bihac
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 20/09/2017 : 00:57:47
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hajmo ovako: ludensov zagor pokriva trziste od 20 miliona ljudi, od cega 10 mozda 15 hiljada ljudi koji to citaju, od cega je mozda jednoj cetvrtini to maternji jezik i na njih se odnosi gramatika, jer je kod ostalih u vecini slucajeva pravilno nesto drugo. dakle, imamo 2-3 hiljade ljudi sa hrvatskog govornog podrucja, i koliko ima medju njima profesora hrvatskog, lektora, intelektualaca sta citaju zagora i koji vide te sitne gramaticke greske? 100-200? koliko njih ima da im to toliko smeta? 10-20? |
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going going
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Serbia
11913 Posts
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Posted - 20/09/2017 : 01:03:32
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Meni u hrvatskim izdanjima ne smetaju gramaticke greske jer nemam pojma ni da li jesu ili nisu greske jer se gramatika razlikuje od srpske, ali u srpskim izdanjima mi itekako para usi pri citanju greske koje se prave, pogotovo nepravilna upotreba glagola ,,treba". Za sta sluze lektori nego da ispravljaju takve stvari? |
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velka031
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Croatia
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Posted - 20/09/2017 : 11:37:31
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Meni ne smeta toliko, puno grešaka ni ne skužim, jer mi to nije struka, ali mi i ne smeta, kako kaže Patak, dobro je i da imamo to što imamo. Ali organski ne podnosim kada netko ne radi posao za koji je, pretpostavljam, dobro plaćen. E, pa gospoda koja rade prijevode i lekturu u dotičnim firmama očito pojma nemaju, a bogami im i opća kultura debelo šteka. |
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wolf
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Posted - 20/09/2017 : 17:40:00
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Ne vjerujem da su u tom sektoru neke ozbiljnije plaće. Inače bi dobro pazili na distribuciju stripova, tj. da ne bude tako ogroman postotak škarta i remitende kao posljedice oštećivanja. Jbg, ne dam 18 kn za utore i gotovo.
Edit: mislio sam na redovna izdanja od 18 kn. Za ovo pogotovo ne dam 40 kn ako je oštećen. |
Edited by - wolf on 20/09/2017 17:40:53 |
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morski
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Posted - 20/09/2017 : 18:49:56
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smesno je sto se na gramatiku zale oni koji pate od nedostatka iste citajuci njihove postove, barem  uostalom, otkud ideja da se svi likovi u stripovima moraju izrazavati gramaticki ispravno? da li mislite da bi se zaista tako izrazavali u uslovima i okolnostima u kojima zive? ko to od vas cini u svakodnevnom govoru i komunikaciji? sigurno necu od stripa ocekivati da me uci pravilnom izrazavanju. dok god je prevod dobar, smislen i primeren, gramatika je nebitna. |
Kompletni popis Bonelli stripova u Excelu |
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ivanl
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Croatia
15809 Posts
Member since 24/04/2012 |
Posted - 20/09/2017 : 20:24:18
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quote: Originally posted by wolf
Ne vjerujem da su u tom sektoru neke ozbiljnije plaće. Inače bi dobro pazili na distribuciju stripova, tj. da ne bude tako ogroman postotak škarta i remitende kao posljedice oštećivanja. Jbg, ne dam 18 kn za utore i gotovo.
Edit: mislio sam na redovna izdanja od 18 kn. Za ovo pogotovo ne dam 40 kn ako je oštećen.
Da to sa utorima postaje trajan i veliki problem na kioscima. Vec smo o tome razglabali, i taj problem me je udaljio od kioska, ustvari uskratio mije jednu veliku radost odlaska po novi broj na kiosk. Nekad sam ih vise znao obilaziti, dok ne dobijem pravi primjerak, a sad striparnica ili uzimam direktno kod izdavaca. Ali izgubila se ona nekadasnja draz potrage za stripom. |
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