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Posted - 28/10/2017 : 17:56:50
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Specijal br. 6 (SuperBook 38) - Sedam prokletih duša
Ima spojlera:
Priča o sedam duša koje su pozvane u jednu kuću (ispostaviće se da su tu da bi umrle), a Dilan je među njima jer je dobio 10 hiljada funti kao avans, iako nije ni njemu jasno što je tačno posao. Gosti, jedan po jedan, umiru, dok preživjeli pokušavaju da odgonetnu što se iza svega krije.
Ono što je malo oduzelo od neizvjesnosti priči je što je odmah na početku jasno da ono što se dešava ima veze sa grijesima, tj. sedam smrtnih grijehova, mada to likovi ukapiraju tek posle polovine stripa. Takođe, neki od likova su karikature za koje je odmah jasno što su im grijesi i zašto će skončati. Ali je zanimiljivo bilo pogađati koji je Dilanov grijeh. U igri su bili požuda/razbludnost (što bi bila fora) i lijenost, ali na kraju je to ipak bila lijenost, jer mu kao novac novac služi da bi se pokrenuo nešto da uradi, što mi je ipak čini da nije njegova osobina kroz serijal, jer je mnogo puta dokazao suprotno. Takođe, “krivac” za sve što se desilo i njegovi razlozi su isto malo oduzeli kvalitetu priče jer se zabava “viših” bića više puta pojavljuje u serijalu kao motiv i razrješenje price. Ali, interakcija "anđela" i Dilana na kraju je veoma zanimljiva, i to ide dotle da se Dilan, kada otkrije što je razlog svega, vrati i pljune "anđela". Nikad ga prije nisam vidio da pljuje nekoga 
Iako nema Gruča, priča je na momente duhovita, pogotovo dominira ona bogatašica. Posveta Agati Kristi i “Deset malih crnaca” je lijepo uklopljena u priču, a sluge marionete Sklavijev način da kaže da smo svi mi samo marionete. Ima i jedan momenat kada se Dilan pita zašto konzumerizam nije smrtni grijeh. Tpično sklavijevski.
Što se črteža tiče, mračan i sugestivan Roijev stil izuzetno paše ovoj priči.
Sve u svemu, ovo je vrlo dobar specijal koji bi od mene dobio najveće ocjene samo da je malo manje predvidljiv, da je Dilanu kao grijeh zapala požuda i da je motiv za sve bio donekle drugačiji. 8,5/10
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Giuda Ballerino
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Posted - 28/10/2017 : 19:20:22
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quote: Originally posted by Sarghan
Isto po gornjim pravilima. U oba navedena slučaja nakon (drugog) g slijedi slovo i tako da je to [đ].
Dvostruko slovo u većini slučajeva znači mrvicu duži izgovor na tom dijelu riječi (npr, ubaci u google prevoditelj Baggio, Giovanni, gatto, giocca,... i poslušaj par puta izgovor na talijanskom). Jedino valja imati na umu da se dvostruko z čita kao c (npr. prezzo = [preco] uz duži izgovor slova c). S druge strane, dvostruko slovo s ostaje s (npr. cassa = [kasa] uz duži izgovor), mada se jedno s između dva samoglasnika čita kao z (npr. casa = [kaza]). Ima još tih caka i pravila kada se s čita kao s, a kada kao z ili š, no objašnjenje toga bi previše potrajalo (a ja ne bih više išao u off-topic s ovom "malom školom talijanskog").
Također, vezano za slovo g, gn se većinom čita kao nj (npr. legno = [lenjo]), a ako imaš gli, to se čita kao lj (npr. figlio = [filjo]).
ovo nije tocno, tu nema egzaktnog pravila |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 29/10/2017 : 10:36:26
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Nadam se da će taj Gigi uskoro početi da crta naslovnice. Ovo što smo do sada vidjeli su ništa više do ilustracije/posteri, većinom omaži pop kulturi i poznatim umjetničkim djelima, našminkani paletama boja |
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Posted - 29/10/2017 : 10:46:21
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VČ SuperBook 39/1 - Ljudska lovina - orig. specijal br. 12
Manfredijeva priča, koja bi više odgovarala MM nego Dilanu.
A priča kreće tako što vidimo u šumi dvojicu lovaca, koji nakon gađanja ptice čuju ženski krik, koju su izgleda slučajno pogodili, i onda odlučuju da je nađu kako bi utvrdili da li je živa, a ako nije da je dokrajče!!!, kako ih valjda ne bi prijavila što love nezakonito. Ona, u izdanju kao od majke rođena, ih napadne iz zasjede kao ženska verzija Tarzana, i iako ranjena ih i povrijedi. Onda se organizuje hajka sa brojnim ljudstvom i psima koja rezultira njenim bjekstvom vozom do Londona đe je Gručo pronađe u kontejneru u koji se sakrila, ispred njihovog stana u Krejven Roudu!!! Tokom bjekstva izgubila je biser, koji joj je izgleda mnogo važan, plus izgleda izgubljeno i čudno se ponaša tako da Dilan, naravno, odluči da joj pomogne. Sama suludost ovakve postavke me zainteresovala da vidim što će Manfredi smisliti kao objašnjenje.
A nije smislio mnogo što pametno. Priča o džepu u tkanju vremena/prostora koje se nalazi u Šervudskoj šumi, u kojem živi izolovano miroljubivo pleme, koje živi u skladu sa prirodnim principima, i zbog svoje različitosti je u sukobu sa ratobornim vojvodstvom u susjedstvu, koje predvodi Gaj od Gizborna, lik iz legende kojeg je ubio Robin Hud.
Priča se na kraju svela na neki pokušaj slanja ekološke poruke, kritike lova i sukoba sa drugačijim samo zato što je drugačije, ali sve to je prilično nespretno provučeno kroz priču, koja se na momente potpuno nepotrebno širi, poprimajući elemente i motive koji nikako ne doprinose njenom kvalitetu, naprotiv, da bi na kraju sve to izgledalo prilično zbrkano i haotično. Utisak uopšte nije pozitivan. Fregijeri je ok. 4/10
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Posted - 29/10/2017 : 15:00:05
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Nadam se da će taj Gigi uskoro početi da crta naslovnice. Ovo što smo do sada vidjeli su ništa više do ilustracije/posteri, većinom omaži pop kulturi i poznatim umjetničkim djelima, našminkani paletama boja
Pa imali smo 30 godina "naslovnica", meni je ovo i više nego dobrodošla promjena. |
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Giuda Ballerino
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Posted - 30/10/2017 : 09:45:18
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mislim da je kw poprilicno jasan, ko hoce shvatiti, shvatit ce, ovaj zadnji period je prenaglasen sto se toga tice |
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Posted - 30/10/2017 : 14:56:53
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ovo samo potvrdjuje u sta se strip o dilanu pretvorio; kao punk u post punk; kao death i black metal u emogothsympho trubadure; kao kada bi cannibal corpse sada postali emo (clean vokali i sl.); ili "objasnjenje" tipa: iz svakodnevnog uzasa u uzas svakodnevice. wtf? no, ako je nekome najbolji dilan dugacki pozdrav, to je isto kao sto je nekome najbolji zagor neki od ciko specijala. mislim, nidje veze. |
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Posted - 30/10/2017 : 17:03:13
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Meni se stil crtanja/bojenja/šta već, sviđa kod novih naslovnih, mada im mogu parirati mnoge Stanove od pre 10 i više godina naovamo. Dilan je takav lik i strip da valja prikazati i malo melanholije i bajkovitosti, što svojim bojama i stilom crtanja novi crtač zaista prikazuje, ali bih se i složio da mu fali malo ''edge-a'', što kaže D.J. Fali neke akcije, simbolike, npr Stanova naslovnica za Beskrajnu noc ili Ponor, Čarobni frulaš, Somnabuli, Maelstrom, Marti, Dugački pozdrav, Tri puta nula, Savršeni svijet, Nekropolis, Vradžbina, Padaju žabe... ili Villine Golconda, Gospodar tišine... Prosto zaintrigiraju da vidim o čemu se radi unutra, dok ove nove, iako na oko lepe, nekako i ne. |
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Posted - 31/10/2017 : 21:23:16
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Čini se kako Bruno Brindisi zbog novonastalih privatnih obveza više neće crtati naslovnice za Libellusove DD knjige.
Crtanje istih od iduće knjige preuzima Pasquale Del Vecchio. |
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Posted - 01/11/2017 : 18:23:25
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quote: Originally posted by Sarghan
Čini se kako Bruno Brindisi zbog novonastalih privatnih obveza više neće crtati naslovnice za Libellusove DD knjige.
Crtanje istih od iduće knjige preuzima Pasquale Del Vecchio.
Odavno nije izasla ni neka Brindisijeva epizoda za redovnu seriju. Cime se trenutno bavi? |
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quote: Originally posted by morski
u mojoj glavi je bio vise urlik nego vrisak  sta ti je death metal...
Vidi, cak i americana/folk/indie nasledje su takodje stvorili utisak urlika Ovaj vrisak mi je totalno razocaranje. |
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Posted - 02/11/2017 : 08:07:48
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quote: Originally posted by morski
u mojoj glavi je bio vise urlik nego vrisak  sta ti je death metal...
Pa i trebao bi biti urlih, sudeći po "Uarghhh" opisu u stripu |
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