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kublay
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Posted - 01/04/2018 : 14:56:28
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Čitam ovog vikenda Dragonero knjigu 3 i stvarno je pravo uživanje. Verujem da ne vole svi fantasy avanture, ali ja bih ovo mogao čitati i da izlazi svakog četvrtka. neću mnogo da pričam, samo jedan detalj - strana 54, scena svadbe baronove kćeri, u srednjevekovnom stilu. sve je prikazano (da ne kažem precrtano)pod velikim uticajem Harolda Fostera. Čak je ostavljen i grb sa konjskom glavom. Još jedan primer koliki uticaj je imao strip Princ Valijant, jedan od najranijih fantasyja  Epizode 11 i 12 su važne za kontinuitet, podsetite se nultog broja Dragonera. Naravno, Dragonero je dosta lakši za praćenje, ne zahteva toliko angažovanja kao na primer Nathan Never. |
zovi me kitty ljepotane!...nemam posebnih zahtjeva! jedan dan jedem kavijar, a drugi i mortadelu! hm...a ja jedan dan jedem, a drugi možda... |
Edited by - kublay on 01/04/2018 14:58:15 |
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solar
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legaz
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Posted - 09/04/2018 : 16:28:55
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Prosto sam oduvao Knjigu 3 Dragonero. 2 i 3 epizoda razbijačina. Čista 10-k sve. Od crteža do scenarija. Prva epizoda u ovoj knjizi za 8 a četvrta za 6-7. |
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 09/04/2018 : 16:40:34
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quote: Originally posted by legaz
Prosto sam oduvao Knjigu 3 Dragonero. 2 i 3 epizoda razbijačina. Čista 10-k sve. Od crteža do scenarija. Prva epizoda u ovoj knjizi za 8 a četvrta za 6-7.
Slažem se, predobra |
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 09/04/2018 : 16:41:47
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Ako je Napoleon mogao na kioske, čega se boje s Dragonerom? Svaka čast knjigama, ali ima tu mjesta i za jedno lijepo redovito kiosk izdanje, ne vidim čemu strah ili sumnja... |
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Hercule Poirot
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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 09/04/2018 : 17:45:47
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Upravo pročitao prve četiri sveske. Prve dve su me, priznajem, malo davile (već mi je u magli šta se uopšte dešava u njima) ali treća me je cimnula i od nje pa sve do kraja avanture je sve med i mleko. Prezadovoljan sam pročitanim i večeras će verovatno da padne još barem toliko u autobusu. Odličan serijal.
Edit: naslovnice razvaljuju, od prve do poslednje |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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Elderane84
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Posted - 10/04/2018 : 09:38:21
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quote: Originally posted by legaz
Prosto sam oduvao Knjigu 3 Dragonero. 2 i 3 epizoda razbijačina. Čista 10-k sve. Od crteža do scenarija. Prva epizoda u ovoj knjizi za 8 a četvrta za 6-7.
Ista priča kod mene. Sjajna epizoda 10-11. Posebno kraj. I aj sad dočekaj knjigu 4 za godinu ipo :( Ne mogu da vjerujem da se serijal tako slabo primio da ne moze bar 8 redovnih brojeva godišnje da se izgura. |
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solar
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Posted - 10/04/2018 : 09:46:32
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Drago mi je da vam se sviđa treća knjiga, a što je najbolje od svega u četvrtoj knjizi vas također čeka rasturačina jer Enoch i Olivares potpisuju priču u dva nastavka gdje Jan i družina idu u glavni grad Carstva i tako doživljavaju nevjerovatne stvari a u sve to je upletena i carska obitelj. |
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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Posted - 10/04/2018 : 10:31:53
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Sinoć pale još sveske 5,6 i 7
"Skup izviđača" je čudo neviđeno, priča bez i najmanje akcione sekvence i s retkim lokacionim izmenama, ali mi je držala do poslednje stranice. Najbolji primer koliko stvari leži na dobrom baratanju dijalozima. Sjajno!
9/10
"Čelik i čeljusti"/"U Zefirovom carstvu" mi je priča donekle mešavina Zagora (otimanje "parda", praćenje tragova otimača, usputno prikupljanje informacija o njima i otimanje radi prisilnog angažovanja u arenskim megdanima) i Dampyra (elfov prostrani "svet" učauren u fizičkom prostoru) samo daleko bolje razrađeno iako apsolutno nepretenciozno. Ekspozicije Iana, njegove pratilje erboristkinje (zaboravih ime), seljana itd. nimalo ne zamaraju tok priče. Naprotiv, grade njenu dinamiku i vode te budno do samog kraja (a sami bog zna koliko mi je teško koncentrisati se u autobusu sa još Led Zepellinom, ACDC-jem i ostalim genijalcima u slušalicama kako bih ignorisao saputnike buljatore koji se ne mogu načuditi kao to da neki ozbiljni tridesetogodišnjag čita "crtaće"). Zefir (negde beše "h") udara šakom u bubrege koliko je...potpun. Preteći konceptualno i vizuelno, a opet ostaje savršeno nepretenciozan. Jedina mana cele priče mi je samo finale. Nakon onog prenapetog, preemotivnog i posebno predobro nacrtanog okršaja sa Crnom Gospodaricom, očekivao sam sličan tretman i ovde.
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Naslovnice i dalje rasturaju, ali sada već postajem čangrizav po pitanju koncepta. "Skup izviđača" je prestatična, verujem da bi tema epizode mogla da se prikaže u mnogo življem kadru. "Čelik i čeljusti" takođe. Krupniji kadar Iana i rogate zveri i bilo bi bombonica. "U Zefirovom carstvu" je već bombonica do daske.
edit: Ako sam dobro ukapirao ovo su cele dve knjige (fali još #8 "Čari zla" (ne vodite se mojim naslovima, ne znam kako ih je preveo VČ)). Još malo pa ću da sustignem domaću produkciju Kako je počelo, brzo će da padne prvih šezdesetak  |
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 10/04/2018 : 11:29:05
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Očito je kako Dragonero ima čitalačku publiku...
Stoga mi ostaje nerazumljiva poslovna politika Veselog da tu istu publiku misle zadržati s jednom knjigom u dvije ili tri godine...Ako to nije optimizam jači nego u stripovima, onda stvarno...
Ako nešto nije isplativo - onda u redu, nitko neće raditi s gubitkom. Međutim, koliko je Dragonero "neisplativ" dovoljno svjedoči podatak da ćeš prije u restoranima, na meniju, pronaći nešto egzotično kao sovine uši ili kitove peraje; nego u striparnicama Dragonero knjiga 1. Mudrome dosta. |
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King Warrior
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 10/04/2018 : 11:34:28
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Prodaja diktira tempo izlaženja, ne treba se zavaravati da je drugačije.
U pravu si, tu nema diskusije. Samo, kako misle zadržati postojeću čitalačku publiku? S ovakvim ritmom izlaženja? Evo, uopće ne spominjem privlačenje nove publike... |
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PijaniPatak
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 10/04/2018 : 11:54:43
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Koliko očito? Na ovom topicu nećeš prebrojati ni 50 čitalaca, na fb ćeš skupiti još možda toliko i to je to. Mizerna cifra. Zaboga, evo mene možeš brojati kao Dragonerovog čitaoca od prekjuče :)
Da, izgleda da je i mene zahvatio Tellerov optimizam vezan uz strip izdanja  |
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Posted - 22/04/2018 : 16:12:58
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Kolekcija Dragonera, na početku je VČ a ostalo su tal. originali. Ubrzo bi mi trebale stići tri nove epizode redovne serije i HC izdanja Bez Duše i onog reprinta u boji (#15, #16). 
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 22/04/2018 : 19:23:09
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quote: Originally posted by solar
Kolekcija Dragonera, na početku je VČ a ostalo su tal. originali. Ubrzo bi mi trebale stići tri nove epizode redovne serije i HC izdanja Bez Duše i onog reprinta u boji (#15, #16). 

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