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Duke Zill
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Croatia
1078 Posts
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Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:00:09
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
Mangiantini korektan a naslovnica odlicna ali imam dojam da je odnekud maznuta?
Mene podsjeća na "Zaustavite krvnika". Što se tiče crteža meni je Mangiantini uvijek bio čisto ok. Onako u sredini po kvaliteti. |
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King Warrior
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:14:28
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ako bih morao odabrati najgoreg crtaca, ono bas najgoreg, to je mangiantini. gori mi je cak i od sediolija, a time sam sve rekao. scenarist je takodjer zivi uzas. ovo nek izrežu i prodaju samo naslovnicu kao razglednicu. ionako ide ljeto. |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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Duke Zill
Senior Member
   

Croatia
1078 Posts
Member since 23/05/2015 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:16:41
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Mislimo pozitivno, možda se ipak mrvicu ugodno iznenadimo. Male su šanse, ali ipak postoje.
Meni isto Alexis nije neki lik za povratak, radije bi ekipu Metisa iz Rupert's Landa. Ali što je tu je, ne isplati se jadikovati kad će strip svejedno izaći. |
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King Warrior
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22346 Posts
Member since 10/11/2007 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:20:34
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Ma ništa bez dobrog crteža! Džaba najbolji scenario ukoliko crtež nije na nivou. Da je Mangi nacrtao "Demona ludila", vjerovatno bi danas o toj priči govorili kako je jedna od najvećih nebuloza serijala. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:33:33
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mislim da ne bismo, ali tesko da bismo je spomenuli osim kao neostvaren potencijal. slazem se. ako crtez ne valja, uzalud je sve ostalo. ovo je strip. samo sto se cesto za totalno ocajan crtez jave umne glave koje nam objasnjavaju da "jest los, ali ovdje itekako pase". mislim da ljudska glupost ne moze biti veća od te koja izjavi tako nesto. to sam susreo vise puta, doduse ne za bonelli, nego za neka "remek-djela". |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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Duke Zill
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Croatia
1078 Posts
Member since 23/05/2015 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:34:22
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Slažem se da je crtež veoma važan i da može upropastiti cjelokupni dojam priče (npr. Casasaro u Demonskoj knjizi), odnosno poboljšati ga (Verni u Povratku Digging Billa). No kad je meni crtež loš onda ga ne gledam toliko, nego se skoncetriram na tekst i brže listam  |
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:36:40
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pitaj boga sto stavis u strip i sto radis brze |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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King Warrior
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22346 Posts
Member since 10/11/2007 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 10:40:52
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
samo sto se cesto za totalno ocajan crtez jave umne glave koje nam objasnjavaju da "jest los, ali ovdje itekako pase". mislim da ljudska glupost ne moze biti veća od te koja izjavi tako nesto. to sam susreo vise puta, doduse ne za bonelli, nego za neka "remek-djela".
Moram da priznam da sam i ja jedan od tih.  U slučaju stripova poput "Persepolis", "Zašto sam ubio Pierrea" ili "Blankets", to i jeste slučaj. Slažem se ipak da to pravilo ne važi za SBE svijet. |
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velka031
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Croatia
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dzoni
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Serbia
4344 Posts
Member since 11/09/2006 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 11:56:20
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mangiantini nije los...cak i dobar je samo sto mu je zagor los...ako se to proguta moze proci...prica? ljudi niste je jos ni procitali...polako... |
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Pavel
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Croatia
1233 Posts
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legaz
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Serbia
2423 Posts
Member since 13/08/2009 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 17:27:35
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quote: Originally posted by dzoni
mangiantini nije los...cak i dobar je samo sto mu je zagor los...ako se to proguta moze proci...prica? ljudi niste je jos ni procitali...polako...
U pravu si. Nije loš. Očajan je. |
Junaci ne ubijaju one koji ne mogu da se brane. |
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Hercule Poirot
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14182 Posts
Member since 28/11/2017 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 19:18:36
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Ma ništa bez dobrog crteža! Džaba najbolji scenario ukoliko crtež nije na nivou. Da je Mangi nacrtao "Demona ludila", vjerovatno bi danas o toj priči govorili kako je jedna od najvećih nebuloza serijala.
Ima istine u tome! |
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 22/04/2018 : 19:20:44
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Ubit će nas s tim Mangiantinijem.
Zašto mu u SBE ne nađu neko prikladnije mjesto? Mjesto gdje ne treba puno crtati? Idealno mjesto bi bilo mjesto portira. Ili pomoćnog radnika koji ozbiljnim crtačima donosi sendviće, tamo u 10,15... svako jutro, naravno |
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velka031
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/04/2018 : 22:38:43
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quote: Originally posted by Hercule Poirot
quote: Originally posted by velka031
Ubit će nas s tim Mangiantinijem.
Zašto mu u SBE ne nađu neko prikladnije mjesto? Mjesto gdje ne treba puno crtati? Idealno mjesto bi bilo mjesto portira. Ili pomoćnog radnika koji ozbiljnim crtačima donosi sendviće, tamo u 10,15... svako jutro, naravno
Znaš što je najgore od svega? Što je on još i dobar kakvi sve crtaju Zagora danas. Stara priča  |
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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
29953 Posts
Member since 14/03/2014 |
Posted - 22/04/2018 : 23:38:45
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Samo na Zagoru se mogu pronaći barem 3 gora crtača od njega. Mangiantini barem okoliš dobro crta dok ima onih koji ne mogu niti to. |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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Kontrast 2
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Posted - 23/04/2018 : 13:54:34
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U stvari je Manđi sasvim dobar crtač, ali nije za Zagora. Ljudi mu generalno škripe, konji takodje, ali okolinu, vreme dana, zgrade,...crta prilično dobro. Za neki vestern strip (tipa Teksa, kog priželjkuje da radi) možda i ne bi bio loš, naročito ako je radnja u gradu. A da je gori od Kjarole, ili braće Kasaro....pa, ne treba preterivati. |
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legaz
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Serbia
2423 Posts
Member since 13/08/2009 |
Posted - 23/04/2018 : 15:37:10
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quote: Originally posted by Kontrast 2
U stvari je Manđi sasvim dobar crtač, ali nije za Zagora. Ljudi mu generalno škripe, konji takodje, ali okolinu, vreme dana, zgrade,...crta prilično dobro. Za neki vestern strip (tipa Teksa, kog priželjkuje da radi) možda i ne bi bio loš, naročito ako je radnja u gradu. A da je gori od Kjarole, ili braće Kasaro....pa, ne treba preterivati.
Od Kazarovih nije ali od Kjariole jeste. |
Junaci ne ubijaju one koji ne mogu da se brane. |
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grofica Varga
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Germany
1202 Posts
Member since 15/12/2009 |
Posted - 23/04/2018 : 16:44:20
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Ja volim Chiarollu, ima baš neki „divlji“ crtež koji paše mom oku. Ima sve što Mangiantini nema, a to je osobnost, crtež s karakterom. Mangiantini je beskarakteran, radi neke ljepuškaste fačice i kao da hoće s onim „crticama“ oponašati Ferrija, a ne ide ga. Najgora varijanta. Novi Ferri ne uspijeva biti, a u međuvremenu neće biti ni on sam.
Crtež od Cassarovih mi nije lijep, ali i on ima svoj karakter. U „Krv Apača“ su mi bili skroz zadovoljavajući, nisu mi pokvarili gušt čitanja. Ako išta znaju crtati onda je to prašina, kamenjar, pustinja. I čini mi se da se i likovi uklapaju u tu scenografiju jer im uvijek izgledaju koštunjavo i dehidrirano.  Ne bih znala kazati jer mi draži (lošiji) Mangiantini ili Cassarovi. Ali znam da mi je Chiarolla 5 puta bolji od njih. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
10369 Posts
Member since 28/07/2002 |
Posted - 23/04/2018 : 21:42:08
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Kjarola je vrstan crtac. Tu mozemo govoriti da ne pase Zagoru (ja ga npr. ne volim u Zagiju), ali ako ne vidis da covjek zna svoj posao, slijep si. Sto kaze grofica, ima svoj karakter. A da bi ga usporedio s ovom izdrkotinom od Mangija - moraš biti ne samo slijep nego i bez mozga. |
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going going
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Serbia
11927 Posts
Member since 24/04/2012 |
Posted - 23/04/2018 : 21:51:09
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quote: Originally posted by grofica Varga
Ja volim Chiarollu, ima baš neki „divlji“ crtež koji paše mom oku. Ima sve što Mangiantini nema, a to je osobnost, crtež s karakterom. Mangiantini je beskarakteran, radi neke ljepuškaste fačice i kao da hoće s onim „crticama“ oponašati Ferrija, a ne ide ga. Najgora varijanta. Novi Ferri ne uspijeva biti, a u međuvremenu neće biti ni on sam.
Ne bih znala kazati jer mi draži (lošiji) Mangiantini ili Cassarovi. Ali znam da mi je Chiarolla 5 puta bolji od njih.
Potpisujem. |
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solar
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Croatia
21432 Posts
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nagor
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Croatia
12553 Posts
Member since 21/02/2012 |
Posted - 27/04/2018 : 12:04:25
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Markus je klasik. Iz nostalgičnog vidika to izgleda zanimljivo, ali kako će takav lik funkcionirati danas, a i crtež izgleda loš. |
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gerilac1
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
1453 Posts
Member since 24/08/2013 |
Posted - 27/04/2018 : 12:12:53
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To Bure, oca ti svog za brkove vuko. Zabrinut sam za njega, sta ce kad nestane povrataka, valja mu sjest i smislit nesto. |
Junak stavlja na kocku cak i prst! |
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