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ReemCP
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 21:53:46
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quote: Originally posted by Tonka24
Naslovnica izvrsna, pogotovo ovo oko sunca i zraka,okolina i atmosfera je izvrsno dočarana. Ne sviđa mi se nikako kako Bane crta Zagora i Chica.
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Never leave it in the hands of the judges
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Tonka24
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 22:12:02
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Nije mi se svidio baš ni u onome koloru,okolina odlična ali kako crta samog Zagora i Chica, meni to dosta odskače od Zagora na kojeg smo navikli. |
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velka031
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 22:18:43
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Na kakvog smo navikli? Da smo u 1988 znao bi odgovor, a sada budući da Zagora najčešće crtaju Sedioli i Mangiantini da li smo na to navikli? Ako jesmo, nije dobro, jer je Bane crtački doktor za njih. I ne samo za njih. |
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zlatan bihac
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 22:59:07
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Na kakvog smo navikli? Da smo u 1988 znao bi odgovor, a sada budući da Zagora najčešće crtaju Sedioli i Mangiantini da li smo na to navikli? Ako jesmo, nije dobro, jer je Bane crtački doktor za njih. I ne samo za njih.
ova dvojica upravo crtaju zagora kakav je bio 1988... gamba, toriceli, pepe..sve klasicari..promjene pocinju kad su dosli, tamo od americke odiseje, crtaci poput laurentija, andreucija,chiarole, casarovih, marcela, pescea, koji su skroz promijenili zagorov opis...iz te ekipe je samo della monica bio klasicar... i devescovi, koji je samo jednu pricu radio... tek ce se nakon njih pojaviti novi klasicari, ekipa sa crs 2007: verni, sedioli, nucio, i nesto malo poslije venturi... |
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Tonka24
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 23:04:14
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Na kakvog smo navikli? Da smo u 1988 znao bi odgovor, a sada budući da Zagora najčešće crtaju Sedioli i Mangiantini da li smo na to navikli? Ako jesmo, nije dobro, jer je Bane crtački doktor za njih. I ne samo za njih.
Vidiš meni je Sedioli vrlo dobar što ne mogu reći za Mangiantinia, međutim moje pisanje o tome je poprilično ne relevantno ,zato što sam stao s čitanjem Zagora od priče kraljevstvo straha i od te priče na dalje poznajem samo priče specijala,maksija,kolora...kad se spoji extra serija s redovnom idem kronološki pa budem bolji za komentiranje. |
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velka031
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 23:16:52
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Nuccio crta premalo, Torricelli je otišao u klinac, Verni i Della Monica su premalo da bi bili zadovoljni (klasičari). Sretni možemo biti zbog Rubinija, Bisija, Prisca, Barisona, Russoa, redom odlični crtači (nisu klasičari). Ne želim se naviknuti na spodobe koje crtaju Mangiantini, Sedioli, Cassarovi, Gramaccioni. A i ne mogu. Da, Mangiantini lijepo crta grad i lišće na drveću, gotovo da vidiš svaku žilicu. Ali, neka hvala. |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 23:34:45
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Kao što je, primjerice u klasičnoj glazbi, poznato da su bečki klasici: Haydn, Mozart i Beethoven, tako su Zagorovi klasici: Ferri, Donatelli, Bignotti i Segna (ma što tko mislio o njemu). Svi koji kasnije podražavaju njihov izričaj (ili su ga podražavali), poput Gambe, Torricellija, Pepea, kasnije Vernija i ostalih, samo su - eklektičari. Razdoblje klasika je povijesno zacementirano i to su ovi koje sam nabrojio. |
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ReemCP
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 23:51:12
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quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
.. Segna (ma što tko mislio o njemu).
Segna mi je zasad najgori, ali nalazim se tek između 1/3 i 1/2 serijala. Vjerojatno ću poslije plakat za Segnom, kad vidim neke nove table, poput onog Piccatta.. |
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nellesky
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 07:27:51
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quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
. Svi koji kasnije podražavaju njihov izričaj (ili su ga podražavali), poput Gambe, Torricellija, Pepea, kasnije Vernija i ostalih, samo su - eklektičari.
Možda su konzerve tj.oni koji su protiv svega što je novo i moderno. Staromodni nepovjerljivi konzervativci |
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King Warrior
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King Warrior
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 08:23:37
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quote: Originally posted by ReemCP
quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
.. Segna (ma što tko mislio o njemu).
Segna mi je zasad najgori, ali nalazim se tek između 1/3 i 1/2 serijala. Vjerojatno ću poslije plakat za Segnom, kad vidim neke nove table, poput onog Piccatta..
Čisto sumnjam da ćeš plakati za Segnom. Njegovim škrabotinama mogu samo Cassarovi izaći na crtu. |
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zlatan bihac
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 11:32:33
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u svakom slucaju, drazi su mi i ti sta samo oponasaju klasicare, nego svi ovi modernisti, koji su zagoru dali taj neki izgled poludivljaka ili manekena, sa nejasnim crtezom... |
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dzoni
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Tonka24
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 18:58:13
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by ReemCP
quote: Originally posted by mogorovic
.. Segna (ma što tko mislio o njemu).
Segna mi je zasad najgori, ali nalazim se tek između 1/3 i 1/2 serijala. Vjerojatno ću poslije plakat za Segnom, kad vidim neke nove table, poput onog Piccatta..
Čisto sumnjam da ćeš plakati za Segnom. Njegovim škrabotinama mogu samo Cassarovi izaći na crtu.
Ne znam zašto ste se svi uhvatili njih dvojice. Ok, poštujem stavove ali mislim da neki od vas baš pretjeruju, recimo priča krv Apača, ja ne mogu zamisliti niti jednog drugog crtača u toj priči osim njih dvoje, što vas toliko konkretno smeta? Segnu ne želim komentirati da ne kažem nešto neprikladno. |
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Kontrast 2
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 20:53:53
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
Na kakvog smo navikli? Da smo u 1988 znao bi odgovor, a sada budući da Zagora najčešće crtaju Sedioli i Mangiantini da li smo na to navikli? Ako jesmo, nije dobro, jer je Bane crtački doktor za njih. I ne samo za njih.
Tako je Velka. Pravda za Velku.
(još samo da ti tog Toninelija izbacimo iz glave...)
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velka031
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Kontrast 2
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 21:58:59
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
E ovo zadnje neće ići :)
Shvatam - detinjstvo, prvi Zagor,... Ipak, objektivno je on najlošiji od velike četvorke. |
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ReemCP
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 22:13:44
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quote: Originally posted by Tonka24
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Čisto sumnjam da ćeš plakati za Segnom. Njegovim škrabotinama mogu samo Cassarovi izaći na crtu.
Ne znam zašto ste se svi uhvatili njih dvojice. Ok, poštujem stavove ali mislim da neki od vas baš pretjeruju, recimo priča krv Apača, ja ne mogu zamisliti niti jednog drugog crtača u toj priči osim njih dvoje, što vas toliko konkretno smeta? Segnu ne želim komentirati da ne kažem nešto neprikladno.
Čekaj, oni mi nisu baš poznati, iako sam vidio da ih spominjete. Znači, njihov crtež mogu vidjet u ovom stripu?
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King Warrior
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Tonka24
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 22:35:03
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quote: Originally posted by ReemCP
quote: Originally posted by Tonka24
quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Čisto sumnjam da ćeš plakati za Segnom. Njegovim škrabotinama mogu samo Cassarovi izaći na crtu.
Ne znam zašto ste se svi uhvatili njih dvojice. Ok, poštujem stavove ali mislim da neki od vas baš pretjeruju, recimo priča krv Apača, ja ne mogu zamisliti niti jednog drugog crtača u toj priči osim njih dvoje, što vas toliko konkretno smeta? Segnu ne želim komentirati da ne kažem nešto neprikladno.
Čekaj, oni mi nisu baš poznati, iako sam vidio da ih spominjete. Znači, njihov crtež mogu vidjet u ovom stripu?
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Tako je! Meni su tu odlični, baš su lijepo dočarali Meksiko. |
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mogorovic
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Posted - 29/12/2018 : 22:49:43
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quote: Originally posted by zlatan bihac
u svakom slucaju, drazi su mi i ti sta samo oponasaju klasicare, nego svi ovi modernisti, koji su zagoru dali taj neki izgled poludivljaka ili manekena, sa nejasnim crtezom...
Slažem se. |
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macca1985
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Posted - 05/01/2019 : 20:47:08
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quote: Originally posted by Kontrast 2
Pa gde biste vi Mandjantinija? U redovnu seriju? Neka njega u Maksijima i Specijalima.
Pa ima ga i u redovnoj seriji, nedavno je kod Talijana izašla priča koju je on crtao  |
Zagor, Diabolik, Conan i Venom - best comics ever! |
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