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grofica Varga
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 13:14:15
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quote: Originally posted by stinky
a kako ti je sada kad čitaš te priče iz drugog, tećeg, četvrtog plana, varga?
jel te ispunjava na neki način ili se probijaš mukotrpno?
Ispunjava me popunjavanje rupa kojih imam u komentarima na recenzije. Nekad samo prolistam epizodu, jer sam manje više sve to pročitala. A nekad ih ponovno pročitam u cjelosti. (Ukoliko su dobre i vrijedne ponovnog čitanja.)
Iskreno ću ti kazati, da mi je zanimljivo promatrati Burattinija u ovim epizodama koje je izbacivao početkom tisutljeća. |
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PijaniPatak
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stinky
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Kontrast 2
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:13:25
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
Hehe Sclavi kada piše i na šesnaest stranica, on je nenadjebiv i dobro zna šta radi: https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/dylan-dog-dd-gig-4-komsija/152/
Dilan Dog? Bah... Čitaoci, ili bolje - zaludjenici Dilanom su specifična vrsta stripadžija. Njima je bitno da je nešto drugačije od ostalih stripova, nebitno na koju stranu (kvalitetnu, ili u drugom smeru). Isto i crtež - što karikaturalniji, neko senčenje "a la Hugo Prat", završni crtež koji je siromašniji nego nečija gruba postavka kadra (skica, čast izuzecima),... samo da je drugačije i da oni mogu da, hvaleći takve škrabotine - pokažuju da imaju neki elitni ukus, nerazumljiv običnoj stripadžijskoj boraniji.
Tako da nije ni čudo što je Sklavi kod njih cenjen. Za realistične priče je dunster. Na Zagoru prilično osrednji do loš. |
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Kontrast 2
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:22:59
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quote: Originally posted by Dwayne_Looney
to je to . samo što nisi podijelio ocjene na recenziji?
Ako misliš na ovu konkretnu priču ( u albumu) - nisam je čitao. Reagovao sam zbog Kinga, koji se u zadnje vreme nešto mnogo ostrvio na Buratinija, a poznato je da su mu Divovi dobra i zla najomiljenija priča. Pa sam onda malo - iskarikirao dotičnu, povezujući je sa sadržajem ove u albumu (koji je on izneo). Dakle - čisto podjebavanje Kinga.
Ne sumnjam da je (približno, ali ne u potpunosti) tako kako je napisao. I meni ide na živce ta Buretova opsednutost definisanjem svega i svakoga i nadam se da će i Italijanski čitaoci reagovati na tu njegovu Megalomaniju u negativnom kontekstu. Pa ne moram baš da saznam gde je u školu išao Diging Bil, s kojom devojkom se zabavljao Bat Baterton, ili kakvo je detinjstvo imao SuperMajk. Neka ostane i malo misterije u vezi tih likova. Daj dobru priču o njima, posveti pažnje kvalitetu scenarija i dovodjenju dobrih crtača, a ne samo zaroniti u definisanje i objašnjavanje baš svake sitnice. |
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Kontrast 2
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:29:50
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
@Kontrast Niste vi raskrinkali nista. Odgovor na to samo zto nije, u nekoliko hiljadica reci doduse ;)
P.S. Vuka Samotnjaka, Demonsku Masku i Prokleto blago ne mozete da mu negirate
Kao što napisah - obično podjebavanje Kinga. Ali - samo napred. Volim da čitam tvoje osvrte. I pazi da ne bude manje od tih obećanih "nekoliko hiljada reči".
Što se tiče Sklavija - za mene je on ispodprosečan scenarista (gledam samo njegov rad na Zagoru i uporedjujem sa ostalim scenaristima u njihovom radu na Zagoru - Dilana ne uzimam u obzir). Možda su mu Divovi zaista i najbolja priča, makar zbog dužine, Ferijevog maestralnog crteža i kontroverzi koje je izazvala.
Ostale su mi tu oko proseka, ili dosta ispod. Prorok (Paranormus) - totalna glupost. Prokleto blago bi mogla da bude i bolja priča - da je napravio sa dva ili tri nastavka.
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nagor
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:37:39
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
Haugh! Kontrast dobro zbori!
Kako je krenulo, moraćemo mi Nolitijanci i Bozelijanci da napravimo neki pakt protiv Sklavijanaca. Ni manje grupacije - ni glasnije.
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grofica Varga
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:45:21
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quote: Originally posted by stinky
pa sclavi nema status na zagoru
to smo već uzdrmali kad smo raskrinkali demone
ima još po inerciji, kada se bez razmišljanja ponavlja ono što se mislilo prije 20-30 godina
(sclavi ima neke bezvezne i neke odlične priče na ZG, ali status baš i ne)
Pa i nismo nešto uzdrmali. Pričalo se o tome na milijun topica i sve se raspršilo po bespućima interneta, a inercija je i dalje ostala. Neki novi čitaoci će se samo ubaciti u tu inerciju i nastaviti se gegati. Upravo zato što to rade bez razmišljanja im treba potaknuti razmišljanje, a to je - kontrarecenzija. Ljudi recenzijama daju na važnosti, to bi stajalo objavljeno dok postoji sajt, a i sve bi bilo na jednom mjestu. Ne u tisuću tema.
Mjesto za kontrarecenziju je samo jedno. Ne bih željela da netko uleti s kontrareckom, koja će "kontrirati" hvalospjevima na hvalospjeve i ocjenom 100% na 100%. Što možemo vrlo često vidjeti u nekim "kontrarecenzijama". |
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solar
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:45:58
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Divovi su iznimno zanimljiva, kompleksna i epska avantura ali problem je što priča u kojoj Sclavi dekonstruira Zagora i gdje ovaj sebi prospe mozak jednostavno ne može biti najbolja priča u serijalu ma koliko to Djole, King i slični zagovaraju. |
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grofica Varga
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:46:29
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
@Kontrast Niste vi raskrinkali nista. Odgovor na to samo zto nije, u nekoliko hiljadica reci doduse ;)
P.S. Vuka Samotnjaka, Demonsku Masku i Prokleto blago ne mozete da mu negirate
Samo da nije kontrarecenzija. Plakat ću! |
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solar
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:47:53
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Ja sam nekoliko puta nagovarao stinkya da napiše kontrarecenziju ali svaki put je rekao ne. Ni ja ne bi želio da se pojavi neko i onda u kontri opet udari sve desetke bez neke ozbiljnije analize. |
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nagor
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 14:53:59
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quote: Originally posted by Kontrast 2
quote: Originally posted by nagor
Haugh! Kontrast dobro zbori!
Kako je krenulo, moraćemo mi Nolitijanci i Bozelijanci da napravimo neki pakt protiv Sklavijanaca. Ni manje grupacije - ni glasnije.
I onda na kraju epski fajt. Boselli vs Nollita.  |
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mladjo
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:01:57
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Inače, najviše mrzim kada naslov i naslovnica već otkriju glavnu radnju. Mislim, ako je naslov "Kukci ubojice" i još uz to naslovnica koja dosta toga otkriva, sigurno nije radnja o nevidljivom čovjeku. To mi je potpuno nepotrebno. Trebalo bi to nekako "zamaskirati da naslov bude nešto ti pa "(još jedna) Smrtonosna prijetnja" i da naslovnica samo nagovještava o čemu se radi. Naravno, naravno, danas u eri interneta svi već sve znaju čim se nešto pojavi ali ipak malo tajanstvenosti ne bi bilo naodmet.
P.S. Hm da, "Kukci ubojice" dosta otkriva ali opet i privlači ljude da kupe strip jer je priča "Fantastična".
Eh sad, što je bolje... |
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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:03:37
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quote: Originally posted by grofica Varga
quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
@Kontrast Niste vi raskrinkali nista. Odgovor na to samo zto nije, u nekoliko hiljadica reci doduse ;)
P.S. Vuka Samotnjaka, Demonsku Masku i Prokleto blago ne mozete da mu negirate
Samo da nije kontrarecenzija. Plakat ću!
Namenjena je magazinu
A rado bih da jednom upitamo Markosa i moderatore za presedan: da se obrise postojeca i napise recenzija po pravilima. Kakva god da je, dobra ili losa, za ili protiv Demona, samo da sajt ima normalan tekst na koji se mozemo pozivati. Darkwood Devilu bi naravno napisali kratku posvetu-zahvalu u zanimljivostima. Covek je ipak napisao opsezan tekst. |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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Kontrast 2
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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:08:03
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
quote: Originally posted by grofica Varga
quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
@Kontrast Niste vi raskrinkali nista. Odgovor na to samo zto nije, u nekoliko hiljadica reci doduse ;)
P.S. Vuka Samotnjaka, Demonsku Masku i Prokleto blago ne mozete da mu negirate
Samo da nije kontrarecenzija. Plakat ću!
Namenjena je magazinu
A rado bih da jednom upitamo Markosa i moderatore za presedan: da se obrise postojeca i napise recenzija po pravilima. Kakva god da je, dobra ili losa, za ili protiv Demona, samo da sajt ima normalan tekst na koji se mozemo pozivati. Darkwood Devilu bi naravno napisali kratku posvetu-zahvalu u zanimljivostima. Covek je ipak napisao opsezan tekst.
Inače, mene pomalo smeta ta riječ "Kontrarecenzija". Kao da se podrazumijeava da se ne slažeš sa prvobitnom recenzijom pa pišeš svoju. A u hrpi situacija jednostavno netko želi napisati recenziju o epizodi koja ga se posebno dojmila. A ako i ima drugo mišljenje od prvog recenzenta - zar ne bi naziv "druga/treća/n-ta recenzija" bio bolji? |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:09:52
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Ja sam zagorovac
To je jedino ispravno razmišljanje, ali džaba ljudima govoriti... |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:17:45
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Mislim da je jednostavno šteta što kod nas postoji taj raskol, zbog toga gubimo posljednjih godina sva moguča takmičenja na forumu, bez obzira o čemu se radi. Došlo je do jačanja drugih sekti, npr. Kenovaca. Već se unaprijed zna da će "opet" osvojiti prvo mjesto za strip godine, njihovi fanovi razmišljaju kao botovi, tj. svi kao jedan, ili bolje rečeno složni su. Kod nas to više nije tako, previše frakcija, grupacija, previše kraljeva u našem carstvu. Iako smo i dalje najbrojniji, otišli smo u klinac, slično kao i Grčka nakon Aleksandra Velikog. |
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mladjo
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:20:43
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quote: Originally posted by solar
quote: Inače, mene pomalo smeta ta riječ "Kontrarecenzija". Kao da se podrazumijeava da se ne slažeš sa prvobitnom recenzijom pa pišeš svoju. A u hrpi situacija jednostavno netko želi napisati recenziju o epizodi koja ga se posebno dojmila. A ako i ima drugo mišljenje od prvog recenzenta - zar ne bi naziv "druga/treća/n-ta recenzija" bio bolji?
http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?whichpage=-2&TOPIC_ID=21838&REPLY_ID=1719559
Koji si robot, kak si to tak brzo našel :D Ok, predlažem da se kontrarecenzije od sada zovu druga, treća, četvrta...recenzija jer naziv kontra implicira da se pisac druge recenzije (izrazito) ne slaže sa prvom. A i što sad da netko poželi napisati treću recku neke epizode? Jel' bi to bila Kontrarecenzija 2? Ili Kontra-Kontrarecenzija? :D
Uglavnom, mene ne bi smetalo da postoji i deset recenzija neke epizode jer, neke epizode su jednostavno privlačnije od drugih i "mame" ljude da o njima pišu puno više nego neke druge |
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solar
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:24:20
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quote: Koji si robot, kak si to tak brzo našel :D
Moraš imati dobro pamćenje i trebaš se znati služiti sa "search" funkcijom. |
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Kontrast 2
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:28:19
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Radite vi sta hocete, ali me ne stavljajte ni u jednu od navedenih. Ja sam zagorovac
Ma, sumnjiv si nešto u poslednje vreme... Neki čudni postovi, tekstovi,... Moraće Inkvizicija malo da obradi tvoj slučaj.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 08/01/2019 : 15:29:46
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quote: Originally posted by Kontrast 2
quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Radite vi sta hocete, ali me ne stavljajte ni u jednu od navedenih. Ja sam zagorovac
Ma, sumnjiv si nešto u poslednje vreme... Neki čudni postovi, tekstovi,... Moraće Inkvizicija malo da obradi tvoj slučaj.
Hm, a i ono glasnje za DD za strip godine nismo zaboravili. :P |
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