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Kruger
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Posted - 14/01/2019 : 10:59:49
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quote: Originally posted by Tonka24
@Kruger Apsolutno se ne slažem. A i činjenice su kontra tebe, reci mi što bi napravio prema naprijed United bez Pogbe? Razumijem tvoju netrpeljivost, ni meni ne leži pogotovo novac koji je za njega potrošen. Unatoč tome on je motor ovakvog Uniteda, svidjelo se to tebi ili ne. Od 13 udaraca Uniteda na gol pet je njegovih i to sve najbolji udarci. Ti predstavljaš čovjeka kao da nije sposoban igrati za Slovačku reprezentaciju a čovjek igrao jednu od vodećih uloga na SP-u koje je osvojio. Nisi u pravu nikako.
Ako je on motor Uniteda ona jao si ga Unitedu. United se dobro branio i uspjelo mu je, no pitanje je hoće li drugi put uspjeti tako izdržati da de gea ima 11 obrana ili će im utrpati 5-6 golova. Ti vjerojatno nisi gledao koliko je on imao izgubljenih lopti, znao je zazujati u duelu, on je jak fizički i ima visinu, ali je bangljav i bahat, loš u kretnjama i čeka da mu suigrače namjeste situaciju. Francuska ništa ne bi napravila da nije imala Grizmana i Giroua, ovi trkači bez mozga su potrebni, ipak ti trebaju i igrači poput poglbe i Kantea da smetaju ako ništa drugo, ali ti trebaju i igrači koji igraju s mozgom poput Giroua i Grizman. Jedan se iz napada povlači u sredinu i razigrava, a drugi navlači i razvlači obranu, stvara prostor ovom drugome. No to je reprezentacija, reprezentacije nisu tako dobro uigrane kao klubovi. |
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Kruger
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Posted - 14/01/2019 : 11:06:50
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Eh da pogba je puknuo 5 puta po golu i to dok nije za vratom imao protivničke igrače i dok su mu suigrači namjestili situaciju i nije napravio ništa. Znači loš je. Kane je puknuo 4 puta ali je za vratom imao dvojicu trojicu, osim onog slobodnjaka. Šteta za Ljorentea, nekako Početino ne ubacuje često, valjda ne voli takvu vrst napadača, a i Lamelin ulazak je donio živost Totenhamu. Solskijer je izvrsno odradio zamjene. |
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Hercule Poirot
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Posted - 14/01/2019 : 12:00:25
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
De Gea po Sofascore-u skoro savršen - 9,7... Ovu utakmicu Mourinho sigurno ne bi dobio.
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Kruger
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Tonka24
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Posted - 15/01/2019 : 18:13:55
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quote: Originally posted by Kruger
quote: Originally posted by Tonka24
@Kruger Apsolutno se ne slažem. A i činjenice su kontra tebe, reci mi što bi napravio prema naprijed United bez Pogbe? Razumijem tvoju netrpeljivost, ni meni ne leži pogotovo novac koji je za njega potrošen. Unatoč tome on je motor ovakvog Uniteda, svidjelo se to tebi ili ne. Od 13 udaraca Uniteda na gol pet je njegovih i to sve najbolji udarci. Ti predstavljaš čovjeka kao da nije sposoban igrati za Slovačku reprezentaciju a čovjek igrao jednu od vodećih uloga na SP-u koje je osvojio. Nisi u pravu nikako.
Ako je on motor Uniteda ona jao si ga Unitedu. United se dobro branio i uspjelo mu je, no pitanje je hoće li drugi put uspjeti tako izdržati da de gea ima 11 obrana ili će im utrpati 5-6 golova. Ti vjerojatno nisi gledao koliko je on imao izgubljenih lopti, znao je zazujati u duelu, on je jak fizički i ima visinu, ali je bangljav i bahat, loš u kretnjama i čeka da mu suigrače namjeste situaciju. Francuska ništa ne bi napravila da nije imala Grizmana i Giroua, ovi trkači bez mozga su potrebni, ipak ti trebaju i igrači poput poglbe i Kantea da smetaju ako ništa drugo, ali ti trebaju i igrači koji igraju s mozgom poput Giroua i Grizman. Jedan se iz napada povlači u sredinu i razigrava, a drugi navlači i razvlači obranu, stvara prostor ovom drugome. No to je reprezentacija, reprezentacije nisu tako dobro uigrane kao klubovi.
- Pogba je motor Uniteda, pogledaj statistiku svih igrača Uniteda po koristi, ni meni se ne sviđa ali tako je. - Što bi bilo kad bi bilo. United je osvojio tri boda na teškom gostovanju i to se pamti, ne pamti se igra a pogotovo igra pojedinaca. Iako ja nisam ovdje spomenuo nešto šo se kosi s napisanim. - Znao je zazujati u duelu, reci mi koji je to igrač savršen? Bahat je bangljav, to je argumentacija na njegovu igru? - A vidi ovo sada, Francuska ne bi ništa napravila bez Pogbe i Mbappe-a. - Zanimljiva alegorija na Kantea i Pogbu, baš te igrače trebaju gotovo svi veliki klubovi Europe da im smetaju na terenu.
Ne možeš mi pisati o bilo kojem igraču tj. njegovoj igri uvlačeći osobne nesimpatije. Ponavljam i meni je Pogba neprihvatljiv, ali ovdje pišemo o nogometu. |
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Tonka24
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Posted - 15/01/2019 : 18:16:48
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quote: Originally posted by Kruger
Eh da pogba je puknuo 5 puta po golu i to dok nije za vratom imao protivničke igrače i dok su mu suigrači namjestili situaciju i nije napravio ništa. Znači loš je. Kane je puknuo 4 puta ali je za vratom imao dvojicu trojicu, osim onog slobodnjaka. Šteta za Ljorentea, nekako Početino ne ubacuje često, valjda ne voli takvu vrst napadača, a i Lamelin ulazak je donio živost Totenhamu. Solskijer je izvrsno odradio zamjene.
Zašto umjesto Pogbe nije bio netko drugi i opalio tako pet puta, sam, ne čuvan... Možda zato jer nitko nije bahatiji i bangljav od Pogbe? Razumiješ? Uzalud se trudiš, nema argumenata. |
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Posted - 15/01/2019 : 19:38:17
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Nek United pukne Cityja u gradskom derbyju, to bi bilo lijepo...
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"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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Tonka24
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tex2
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Posted - 15/01/2019 : 20:05:21
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Serija mora negdje stati... |
"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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Kruger
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Posted - 16/01/2019 : 09:48:43
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Tonka
Pogba uopće nije motor Uniteda, dosta je loš i to što spominješ da je statistički najkorisniji pokazuje koliko je jadan. Kane je dobio gotovo sve duele sa Jonesom, samo jedan nije, možda dva, ali hrvajući se sa Jonesom trebaš imati snage dobro opaliti ili proigrati loptu, Ljorente je također unio živost u igru Totenhama, koliko je proveo u igri 10 min i već je proigrao nekog, obično traži Kanea, ali Kean je već bio umoran nakon “tučnjave” sa Jonesom i obranom Uniteda, malo je zakasnio. Francuska bez Pogbe ili Kantea može, takvih igrača ima koliko hoćeš, ne može bez Grizmana i Giroua, takvih nema puno. A i Mabpeovaca ima na lopate, brz bez mozga, Englezi imaju takvih na tone, pa ne mogu ništa jer nemaju baš kvalitetnih igrača koji će ih proigrati. Ali repke su neuigrane, Francuzi su se najbolje uigrali s onim što imaju. Argentina ima svemirca super moćnog nepobjedivog Mesija i što, ništa, nisu uigrani, niti svemirac im ne može pomoći jer nogomet igra 11 igrača. |
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Tonka24
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Posted - 19/01/2019 : 18:25:23
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Evo i danas je Pogba zaslužan za pobjedu. Kruger, prijatelju ti si totalno disonantan u odnosu na činjenice. Tako se ne može raspravljati.
Edit: Mbappe večeras tri gola i asistencija. U 14 utakmica 17 golova. Nije loše za igrača " bez mozga " kako ga ti nazivaš.
Pogba- 20 utakmica 8 golova Mbappe- 14 utakmica 17 golova
Giroud- 18 utakmica 1 gol Griezmann- 20 utakmica 9 golova
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Edited by - Tonka24 on 19/01/2019 22:33:26 |
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Tonka24
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Kruger
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Posted - 25/01/2019 : 23:34:14
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To što netko zabija ne znači da je samo on zaslužan, zaslužna je cijela ekipa. To isticanje statistike golova je potpuno bez veze. Momčad ekipe se slaže/sklapa, potrebni su i igrači s prirodnom brzinom bez mozga. Danas je sve više fizike i snage u nogometu, a mozga sve manje. Dakle što bi igrač koji postiže gol bez onog tko ga je uposlio ili onog tko je oteo loptu i tako dalje i tako dalje. Nogomet igra 11 igrača protiv drugih 11, moraju biti ukomponirani, ako nisu nema rezultata. |
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Kruger
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Posted - 25/01/2019 : 23:36:46
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Giroud je totalno različit igrač od mapea, Giroud se bori, tuče za loptu, a mampe samo mora uletjeti u prazan prostor, suigrači mu stvaraju priliku, a Girou stvara prilike. |
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Tonka24
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Posted - 10/02/2019 : 18:20:51
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Zaboravilo se malo na temu. Dvije vezane pobjede u gostima Leicester 1:0 Fulham 3:0
Šteta prosutih bodova protiv Burnley, ali s obzirom da je utakmica bila praktički izgubljena i u zadnjih 5 min se izvuklo čudesno od 0:2 na 2:2, dobro je.
Pogba u te tri utakmice 3 gola i jedna asistencija. Neosporni motor Uniteda koji gazi sve pred sobom. |
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Tonka24
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Posted - 24/02/2019 : 15:58:53
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Sve 3 izmjene u prvom poluvremenu, rijetko se viđa takvo što. |
"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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Tonka24
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Posted - 24/02/2019 : 17:05:47
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Ja razočaran, u bilo kojoj drugoj situaciji bod iz Manchestera ne bi bio razočaranje, ali danas... Opet se nudila pobjeda! |
"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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Tonka24
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Posted - 24/02/2019 : 17:20:21
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quote: Originally posted by tex2
Ja razočaran, u bilo kojoj drugoj situaciji bod iz Manchestera ne bi bio razočaranje, ali danas... Opet se nudila pobjeda!
Teško ćete do naslova. |
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