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Dexters
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/08/2019 : 15:52:01
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Jedinica ha? Ne može svaka epizoda imati dubinu, postoje filleri. Tema i koncept priče su na razini "Wickedforda", možda malo slabiji. Bolje da je malo glupasta nego dosadna. Glavni problem za mene je alkemija- granični sf, gdje uvijek nalazim probleme. Npr zadnja scena: SPOILER: ako je kiselina toliko korozivna da uništava nakovanj, kako onda očekivati da se može distribuirati do kućanstava pomoću vodovodne mreže? |
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koze123
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Posted - 09/08/2019 : 18:53:21
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I "U dimu bitke" je filer, ali neuporedivo bolje napisan od ove škrabotine . Meni je glavni problem to što nas scenarista tretira kao debile i njegovi dijalozi su neverovatno drveni i neprirodni, naivni, pritom kreće da pametuje a pravi kardinalne greške (kao što si ti primetio npr.). Ajde što je naivna epizoda ali mi je bila i dosadna, šta da radim . Vikedford mi je bio i bolje napisan i nacrtan, opet bez velikog filozofiranja. Tako da mi ova epizoda dođe najgora u ovom novom periodu, a nakon nje Anarhija . |
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Dexters
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/08/2019 : 19:29:52
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quote: Originally posted by koze123
I "U dimu bitke" je filer, ali neuporedivo bolje napisan od ove škrabotine . Meni je glavni problem to što nas scenarista tretira kao debile i njegovi dijalozi su neverovatno drveni i neprirodni, naivni, pritom kreće da pametuje a pravi kardinalne greške (kao što si ti primetio npr.). Ajde što je naivna epizoda ali mi je bila i dosadna, šta da radim . Vikedford mi je bio i bolje napisan i nacrtan, opet bez velikog filozofiranja. Tako da mi ova epizoda dođe najgora u ovom novom periodu, a nakon nje Anarhija .
U dimu bitke je odličan filer- ako takva bude većina, bit ću prezadovoljan. Jedva čekam tu recenziju Zanimljivo kako je Simeoni u ove tri priče do sad obradio tri skroz različite teme: akcijsko- anarhični, psihološko- nadnaravni, i jeftini sf na kraju. |
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lukaku44496
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Croatia
86 Posts
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Posted - 09/08/2019 : 20:21:49
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quote: Originally posted by Sarghan
quote: Originally posted by Dexters
Tko zna kako Groucho uopće izgleda, opće je poznato da nosi lažne brkove kako bi prikrio prave.
Barbato se ne slaže s ovom izjavom 

iz koje je ovo epizode |
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solar
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Sarghan
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/08/2019 : 21:04:08
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@koze123, Dexters "U dimu bitke" je jako dobar filler, a malo mu nedostaje da bude odličan. Problem s "Okusom vode" je što više naginje k nekom slabijem kvazi-krimiću nego jeftinom sf. Mada, slažem se s koze123 da je "Okus vode" problematično izveden i lošije napisan, ali ne bih mu dao baš jedinicu za scenari. Bilo je i puno lošije izvedenih priča od te.
@solar on je već nekoliko dana u Hrvatskoj. Ako je vjerovati njegovom instagramu, bio je prije nekoliko dana u plitvicama.
quote: Originally posted by lukaku44496
iz koje je ovo epizode
Izbor, Specijal 18 (Ludensov specijal 9) https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/dylan-dog-dd-lusp-9-izbor/286/ |
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lukaku44496
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Stark
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Stark
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lukaku44496
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/08/2019 : 15:25:48
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quote: Originally posted by Stark
Izgleda da je Recchioni ovih dana turistički u posjetu Hrvatskoj i Bosni
Bio na plitvicama čovjek |
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gerilac1
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Dexters
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Croatia
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Zox
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Stark
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koze123
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Posted - 11/08/2019 : 16:25:15
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DD #121: Dok vas smrt ne rastavi
Odlučio sam da napravim mali preskok u čitanju, odnosno da pauziram sa preporodom i vratim se unazad do ove epizode koju čitam prvi put. Uveravam vas da nisam ekstremista, moja jedinica Ukusu vode je preterana vrlo moguće, u trenutku data, ali ovde moram dati desetku - ili makar 9,5. Ovo je jedna fenomenalna epizoda, među najboljim koje sam čitao, a vraćaću joj se često siguran sam.
S jedne strane realna, s druge natprirodna, snovita, metaforična. Pročitao sam sjajnu recenziju na sajtu ne bi li malo bolje shvatio stvari, jer ovo nije nimalo jednostavna epizoda za razumevanje. Nije samo stvar u čudnom, a fenomenalnom preplitanju radnje već pre bih rekao u poslednjih 16 stranica koje nam je Sklavi čak donekle i objasnio. Fenomenalno napisan lik Lili, koja nas na momente iritira, a na momente je toliko neodoljiva da prosto žudimo da je Dilan "spase" od same sebe - a znamo da je to nemoguće. Jer ovo jeste nemoguća ljubavna priča, i kako se karte otkrivaju priča srlja u emotivnu završnicu - i to u prvih 96 strana, kada možemo još uvek govoriti o nekom realizmu. Poslednjih 16 stranica su čista genijalnost, tako jak i emotivan oproštaj, i tu me je Brindizi najviše očarao. Način na koji crta Dilana je pun pogodak, posebno pri samom činu venčanja. Neću prežaliti što ovu epizodu nismo dobili u koloru do sad, mislim da bi se tada njegov talenat istakao do kraja. No, da se vratim Sklaviju - možemo da tumačimo Dilanov alkoholizam na više načina. Neki su spomenuti u recenziji, ali istakao bih još jedan: Dilan toliko kopa po prošlosti da dolazi do onoga što ne postoji, do onoga što je izmislio ne bi li prevazišao preživljeni gubitak. I tu počinje da pije. Dakle, ako ovo svedemo do same osnove, Dilanu i ne treba razlog za alkoholisanje, a ni nama čitaocima. Jer nije svaki alkoholičar imao teško detinjstvo ili veliki gubitak, ili nešto treće. Nekad prosto nije potrebno ništa, što opet govori o apsurdnosti koju nam Sklavi konstantno nabacuje u ovoj epizodi - od sukoba IRA-e i Engleza, verskih ratova, Lilinih smešnih prozivki itd. A možda se Dilan i propio jer je izgubio Lili - tu leži lepota tumačenja ove epizode. Ako krenete, nećete moći da se zaustavite.
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Edited by - koze123 on 11/08/2019 16:25:37 |
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Zox
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Posted - 11/08/2019 : 17:27:10
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quote: Originally posted by Stark
Bilo bi lijepo da neko ko zna talijanski i ima vremena prevede, vidim da je napisao tekst na Fejsu o svom putovanju
Malo je on to nakitio za svoju raju i nije nesto prezanimljivo nama ljubiteljima stripa, osim da su mu super i Hrvatska i Bosna i da mu je cesta Mostar-Sarajevo naljepsa koju je ikad vidio.
Dosao je u Bosnu jer sam ga ja pozvao bukvalno u komentaru na njegov post, a nismo se poznavali. Prilicno impulsivno s obje strane :)
Najavio mi je neke dosta velike stvari koje jos ne smijem odati, ali i jednu koju smijem. Nova Sclavijeva serija je skoro gotova. Vidio sam na njegovom mobitelu cijelu prvu epizodu, izgleda nevjerovatno. Gigi Cavenago je crtac. Ima 60 stranica. Prica se vrti oko toga da Dylan kupi u Safari neku cudnu knjigu, i knjiga generise price koje mi citamo. Ali, i Dylan je u tim pricama, tako da to nije bas jasno sta se tacno desava... Dakle, nije kao recimo Tales from the crypt. Isto tako, on je napisao epizode za team up izmedju Dylana i jednog DC junaka, po sistemu dogovora izmedju DC-ja i Bonellija. Ako sam skontao, radi se o barem 5 (americkih) epizoda, od kojih ce prva biti predstavljena na Lucca comics. Izaci ce istovremeno i u USA i u Italiji. Po onom sto mi je ispricao, pojavljuje se ogroman broj likova iz obje serije. |
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solar
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Zox
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Posted - 11/08/2019 : 18:05:48
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:D Zaboravio sam reci da i taj team up crta Gigi Cavenago. I, da,radi se upravo o DC liku za kojeg smo svi mislili da ce biti uparen sa Dylanom. |
Edited by - Zox on 11/08/2019 18:06:45 |
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Stark
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Posted - 11/08/2019 : 18:08:26
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quote: Originally posted by Zox
quote: Originally posted by Stark
Bilo bi lijepo da neko ko zna talijanski i ima vremena prevede, vidim da je napisao tekst na Fejsu o svom putovanju
Malo je on to nakitio za svoju raju i nije nesto prezanimljivo nama ljubiteljima stripa, osim da su mu super i Hrvatska i Bosna i da mu je cesta Mostar-Sarajevo naljepsa koju je ikad vidio.
Dosao je u Bosnu jer sam ga ja pozvao bukvalno u komentaru na njegov post, a nismo se poznavali. Prilicno impulsivno s obje strane :)
Najavio mi je neke dosta velike stvari koje jos ne smijem odati, ali i jednu koju smijem. Nova Sclavijeva serija je skoro gotova. Vidio sam na njegovom mobitelu cijelu prvu epizodu, izgleda nevjerovatno. Gigi Cavenago je crtac. Ima 60 stranica. Prica se vrti oko toga da Dylan kupi u Safari neku cudnu knjigu, i knjiga generise price koje mi citamo. Ali, i Dylan je u tim pricama, tako da to nije bas jasno sta se tacno desava... Dakle, nije kao recimo Tales from the crypt. Isto tako, on je napisao epizode za team up izmedju Dylana i jednog DC junaka, po sistemu dogovora izmedju DC-ja i Bonellija. Ako sam skontao, radi se o barem 5 (americkih) epizoda, od kojih ce prva biti predstavljena na Lucca comics. Izaci ce istovremeno i u USA i u Italiji. Po onom sto mi je ispricao, pojavljuje se ogroman broj likova iz obje serije.
Svaka ti dala za info, pravi si. 
Imao si ga priliku upoznati? Pa to je stvarno super, zavidim ti  |
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Stark
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Zox
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Nula
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Posted - 11/08/2019 : 18:22:44
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quote: Originally posted by Zox
:D I, da,radi se upravo o DC liku za kojeg smo svi mislili da ce biti uparen sa Dylanom.
Nije Constantine?
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Stark
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Posted - 11/08/2019 : 18:24:59
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quote: Originally posted by Zox
Jos je kod mene, eno ga spava u drugoj sobi :D
Pa ti si ga pravo ugostio 
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ziro
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Zox
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Posted - 11/08/2019 : 18:29:30
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@stark pravo bosanski smo ga ugostili :) Nakon pet dana kampovanja, covjek se pozelio pravog kreveta. hocu! :) |
Edited by - Zox on 11/08/2019 18:30:04 |
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