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Stark
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Nula
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Deers
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Croatia
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 07:53:51
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#393 Kada Zemlja drhti: -7 do meteora
Baraldi / Brindisi
Filer. I dalje mi Baraldi ne leži. Bridisi sada već uobičajeno u svojoj novoj tehnici kada plavu boju prebaci u šrafure. Puno mračniji i zeznutiji za tisak. Vidieti ćemo kako će to kod nas izgledati. |
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koze123
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 10:29:14
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Zlatna Serija 2:
Dilan Dog: Ponovo radi bioskop
Uf, baš loše. Priča na početku još i ima potencijala, Vikedford je uvek lepo videti i nadam se da će Dilan imati još izleta tamo, ali majko mila šta uradiše od priče kasnije... Ovo bi fino funkcionisalo da se Barci (pod)žanrovski opredelio - recimo da ovo bude slešer epizoda, to bi skroz odgovaralo. Nažalost mi dobijamo poluprodukt - nešto što počinje mistično i podseća na slešer, ali je toliko distancirano od likova da nema nikakvog duha. Onda iz tog slešera prelazi u neki "snuff film" sa natprirodnim elementima (i po prilično neuverljivo) da bi na kraju postala prava sapunjara sa malim čudovištem koje stoji iza svega. Cela epizoda je neuverljiva i banalna, priča mi se uopšte ne dopada kako se razvila a jedino je Brindizi korektno uradio svoj posao. Uvek je lepo videti njegov crtež, mada mi i ovde nije na visini zadatka, ume on to znatno bolje. Sa čudovištem je prilično dobar, dizajn je interesantan i nažalost protraćen. Subićeva naslovnica veoma dobra, atmosferična, za razliku od epizode.
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Dilan Dog: Saldo
E ova kratka pričica je već druga stvar. Iako mi sam kraj nije toliko odgovarao tematski (a svakako je vrlo interesantan), priča je skroz dobra. Za dvadesetak stranica stvorena je odlična atmosfera, koja postaje sve napetija i napetija do poslednjeg obračuna - što se može i objasniti sve učestalijem koričćenjem crvene boje i sjajnim kadriranjem. Neke od ovih crno-crvenih kadrova iz epizode bih rado imao na zidu, tako da je po meni De Tomazo uradio sjajan posao. Gvaldoni lepo vodi priču uglavnom Dilanovim razmišljanjima i završava prilično interesantno. E sad, taj kraj će vam se ili svideti ili će vam delovati previše banalan. Meni je bio ok, iako sam očekivao nešto drugo (odnosno bilo šta drugo), no svakako ova kratka pričica je vredna čitanja, i ostavlja bolji utisak nego glavna priča Zlatne serije.
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Barker
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Fyro Macedonia
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 12:04:19
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koze, super su ti analize, ali da bi rasteretili ovaj topik mislim da je dogovor pao da se ovi komentari ostavljaju na DD v2.0 topik. sarghan, solar? studio? :) |
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swamp thing
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koze123
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 13:19:07
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Hvala Barker .
Nisam ni znao da postoji ta tema, videću da pišem tamo ako je dogovor moderatora da se ova tema ne spamuje mini-recenzijama. |
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solar
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Zox
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Nula
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 15:50:01
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quote: Originally posted by Zox
@Nula, nisam pitao za ekranizaciju :(
Sve je utihnulo što se tiče toga. Jedino je nedavno Rekioni odgovorio da su pregovori sa "velikim imenima" u toku.
Možda čekaju da prvo lansiraju crossover na američko tržište.
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elSaik
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 17:19:22
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Poštovanje,
Imam pitanje: da li superbook VČ-a pokriva sve što ne spada u redovnu seriju? Odnedavno sam počeo skupljati redovni seriju, a pregledavajući Excel popis svih epizoda djelovalo mi je kao sve specijalne epizode ili već jesu ili trebaju biti objavljene u SB-u? Da li sam upravu? Hvala unaprijed na odgovoru. |
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Dexters
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 18:48:54
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quote: Originally posted by elSaik
Poštovanje,
Imam pitanje: da li superbook VČ-a pokriva sve što ne spada u redovnu seriju? Odnedavno sam počeo skupljati redovni seriju, a pregledavajući Excel popis svih epizoda djelovalo mi je kao sve specijalne epizode ili već jesu ili trebaju biti objavljene u SB-u? Da li sam upravu? Hvala unaprijed na odgovoru.
Specijali bi trebali biti svi pokriveni superbookom, ali neke druge sporedne edicije poput priča iz maksija neće biti sve pokrivene. Ideja je da se u Superbook ne stavljaju sve priče iz Dylanovih sporednih edicija, već samo one kvalitetnije.
edit: sad baš gledam talijanske superbookove, i vidim da je posljednji objavljeni specijal br.24 "Svetište". S obzirom da je edicija obustavljena, to znači da specijali od br.25-28 neće biti objavljeni. |
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swamp thing
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 19:04:13
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Nije tako. SB otprilike ima neki slijed, u prvih 49 brojeva ispucao je sve priče iz prvih 12 giganata, prvih 14-15 almanaha, prvih 15-ak specijala, par priča iz maksija (tu su se uključili relativno skoro) i hrpu kratkih priča iz raznih magazina. Jedini je problem što je ta edicija ugašena u Ita sa nekim brojem, mislim 75, ne znam šta onda planira VČ. |
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Dexters
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 19:06:07
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quote: Originally posted by swamp thing
Nije tako. SB otprilike ima neki slijed, u prvih 49 brojeva ispucao je sve priče iz prvih 12 giganata, prvih 14-15 almanaha, prvih 15-ak specijala, par priča iz maksija (tu su se uključili relativno skoro) i hrpu kratkih priča iz raznih magazina. Jedini je problem što je ta edicija ugašena u Ita sa nekim brojem, mislim 75, ne znam šta onda planira VČ.
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Sarghan
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 19:58:16
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quote: Originally posted by koze123
Nisam ni znao da postoji ta tema, videću da pišem tamo ako je dogovor moderatora da se ova tema ne spamuje mini-recenzijama.
Ta druga tema je u početku većinom bila zamišljena za diskusije o novijim pričama iz redovne serije, prvenstveno s ciljem da se u nju mogu (u određenoj mjeri i ako se naznači) pisati i spoileri s obzirom da je od nedavno prisutan i neki sitni kontinuitet. Nedavno sam taj topic ažurirao i dodao još sve "nove" sporedne edicije (Magazin koji si komentirao gore također spada u te edicije) s obzirom da i u njima ima nekog sitnog kontinuiteta, tako da je taj topic od nedavno sveobuhvati topic za sve novije priče.
Uglavnom, ako se želiš malo detaljnije i "slobodnije" raspisati o novijim priči i dotaknuti se nekog nekog određenog elementa priče ili (većeg) spoilera, slobodno tamo piši. Ako su ti komentari spoiler-free (ili se odnose na starije priče do "Dubokog svemira"), ne škodi ih ni ovdje postaviti.
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Inače, htio bih podsjetiti ( i pridošlicama ukazati) kako na prvoj stranici OVE teme (točnije, ovdje: http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?whichpage=-2&TOPIC_ID=36831&REPLY_ID=1079164 ) postoji skoro-pa-posve ažuran popis svih recenziranih priča, posložen po kronološkom redu i (originalnim) edicijama.
Najnovije recenzije koje još nisu stavljene na popis (objavljene tijekom godine, a popis se ažurira jedno godišnje ili kad se nakupi malo više recenzija) mogu se vidjeti ovdje: https://www.stripovi.com/index.asp?page=reviews-latest&Hero=DD&Author=&Title=
Uglavnom, ako si je već netko dao truda napisati malo duži komentar/osvrt/mini-recenziju o nekoj priči koja ima recenziju (kao npr. koze 123koji je za "Saldo" napisao zanimljiv i nadasve koristan komentar za koji bi bio šteta da se zagubi i potone u moru postova na forumu), uvijek je preporučljivo da se isti zaljepi i u kometar ispod recenzija. Ovdje na forumu se ti komentari lagano zagube u mnoštvu stranica i topica (osobito ove teme), a na sajtu se relativno lako pronađe i uvijek može biti koristan narednim (generacijama) čitatelja/posjetitelja sajta za npr. donošenje odluke o nabavci neke priče. |
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swamp thing
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 20:33:43
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quote: Originally posted by Dexters
quote: Originally posted by swamp thing
Nije tako. SB otprilike ima neki slijed, u prvih 49 brojeva ispucao je sve priče iz prvih 12 giganata, prvih 14-15 almanaha, prvih 15-ak specijala, par priča iz maksija (tu su se uključili relativno skoro) i hrpu kratkih priča iz raznih magazina. Jedini je problem što je ta edicija ugašena u Ita sa nekim brojem, mislim 75, ne znam šta onda planira VČ.
Pa što sam pogrešno rekao?
Npr. da u SB idu samo kvalitetnije priče iz sporednih edicija, što je netačno jer idu skoro pa redom sve priče iz svih edicija, kasnije malo su se uključili sa maksijem i nešto sporadičnije jer su oni obimni i sa 3 priče od 90+ strana pa su nezgodniji za često ubacivanje. Eto, razjašnjeno  |
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Dexters
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Posted - 23/08/2019 : 22:24:03
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Dobro sad, ali nisu se oni bezrazlozno odlucili za takav slijed. Price iz specijala i giganata jesu kvalitetnije (pogotovo stariji brojevi) i cesto se nalaze u sb, dok su npr. maksiji slabije kvalitete i rijetko su u sb. |
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solar
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swamp thing
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Posted - 24/08/2019 : 09:09:57
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quote: Originally posted by Dexters
Dobro sad, ali nisu se oni bezrazlozno odlucili za takav slijed. Price iz specijala i giganata jesu kvalitetnije (pogotovo stariji brojevi) i cesto se nalaze u sb, dok su npr. maksiji slabije kvalitete i rijetko su u sb.
Maksiji su bili svježa edicija koja je počela izlaziti godinu poslije prvog SB, nije imalo smisla ubaciti epizodu iz maksija koji je tek počeo zaživljavati na kioscima, sačekalo se i onda ih se ubacivalo u manjem broju zbog toga što je svaka epizoda 90+ stranica, ne vidim šta nije jasno. Specijali, giganti, almanasi svi išli standardno + kratke priče iz drugih magazina. Almanasi su isto Bože sačuvaj loša edicija pa je išla bez problema u SB. |
Edited by - swamp thing on 24/08/2019 09:12:03 |
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going going
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solar
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Posted - 27/08/2019 : 15:01:06
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Molim dilandologe da provjere ovu informaciju koja bi trebala ići u zanimljivosti.
quote: Mislim da je u epizodi „Između života i smrti“, (prva na kojoj je radio Minjako) putovanje duhova kroz ogledala bio jedan od elemenata priče, što se pominje i ovde kao namig svom početku – proveriti
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Zox
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Posted - 27/08/2019 : 15:52:02
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Ne znam je li ovo vec izaslo negdje (vjerovatno jeste, kao i sve sto sam otkrio :D ) Oduvijek sam se pitao cija je ono fotografija na zadnjem kadru Dugackog pozdrava. Ja sam mislio da je Ambrosini nalijepio kao posvetu nekoj svojoj ljubavi. U stvari, nije ni njegova ni Sclavijeva, vec Marchesellijeva ljubav. Stvarno se zvala Marina, stvarno su se upoznali na moru i, nevjerovatno ali istinito, nakon nekih cetrdesetak godina ponovo su se pronasli i sad su opet skupa. |
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solar
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Posted - 27/08/2019 : 16:24:31
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quote: Originally posted by Zox
Ne znam je li ovo vec izaslo negdje (vjerovatno jeste, kao i sve sto sam otkrio :D ) Oduvijek sam se pitao cija je ono fotografija na zadnjem kadru Dugackog pozdrava. Ja sam mislio da je Ambrosini nalijepio kao posvetu nekoj svojoj ljubavi. U stvari, nije ni njegova ni Sclavijeva, vec Marchesellijeva ljubav. Stvarno se zvala Marina, stvarno su se upoznali na moru i, nevjerovatno ali istinito, nakon nekih cetrdesetak godina ponovo su se pronasli i sad su opet skupa.
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