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majmun
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 13:29:35
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
Na koliko novaca procjenjuješ vrijednost?
Dogovorili smo se da cu mu prodati za 18,000 kn. Naravno da je prava cijena bila visestruko veca, u najmanju ruku(!). Samo Stripoteke toliko vrijede... Ali situacija je bila takva da mi je hitno trebao novac, a on je to iskoristio. Predao sam mu kolekciju koju sam skupljao skoro cijeli zivot.
Tako da odgovor na naslov "Ratko Dragaš, dobrotvor ili prevarant ?" za mene je prilicno trivijalan. Ne samo da je prevarant, nego je i kriminalac i pokvareno ljudsko bice koje me iskoristilo u trenutku kad sam bio u knock-downu. Takve stvari se ne zaboravljaju olako. |
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sawitch
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Serbia
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majmun
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Croatia
580 Posts
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 13:59:41
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quote: Originally posted by sawitch
Jesi li pokusao da ga nadjes? Pokusavas li i dalje?
Iskreno ne, osim pracenja ove teme. Ne znam ni gdje bih ga trazio. Posudio sam novac, rijesio se bolesti, klinci krenuli u skolu, zaposlio se ponovno i nastavio dalje. |
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Paka01
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Croatia
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Poli
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Slovenia
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 14:12:04
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Tada se culo da je isao za Liku, ali pitanje da li je bila podnijeta kaznena prijava, i kako to ide u vezi dokazivanja ako nema nikakve potvrde, nista pismeno, a dokazi (stripovi) su nestali.
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RAKOSI4
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 15:39:03
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Istina,ali trebali bi se svi prevareni povezat i udružit te prijavit policiji šta bi imalo veću težinu.
A najdraže mi je kad neki opisuju : on je divan,on je krasan, nikada s njim nisam imao problema,čovjek je legenda,on je humanitaran .
Svaki prevarant je u biti prijazan i fin,mora steć povjerenje i na male stvari možda i neće prevariti jer čeka veće ,šta se i dogodilo.
Ne bi se iznenadija da ti stripovi i dalje ne cirkuliraju preko striparnica ,aukcija,oglasa,preko druge osobe. Razmjeri ove prevare su i veći nego šta sam mislija.Možda je dobar dio i dalje kod njega a on to strpljivo i oprezno prodaje 
Pa on čak ima i prevarantsku facu,ali dobro za većinu to je već astronomija |
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feniks
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 15:49:33
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Ovo je najruznija prica iz kolekcionarskog svijeta. Nisam sarađivao s dotičnim i praktičnom sam zaboravio. Umjetnost kolekcionarstvo povjerenje drugarstvo prijateljstvo kumstvo novac valjda su svi umješani živi i zdravi.
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Macon
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Slovenia
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 19:39:02
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Kako može neko sasvim nestati?
Valjda neko zna nekoga zaposlenog u opštini ili na policiji i neka pogleda njihove evidence građana ako ga niko nije prijavio. |
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Edited by - Macon on 08/04/2021 19:40:38 |
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Dexters
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 19:48:02
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quote: Originally posted by Macon
Kako može neko sasvim nestati?
Valjda neko zna nekoga zaposlenog u opštini ili na policiji i neka pogleda njihove evidence građana ako ga niko nije prijavio.
Ma kakav nestanak, to je smiješno. Vidiš da čovjek kaže da ga nije ni pokušao tražiti. Lopovi znaju od koga će krasti. Sigurno ne od onog koji će im polomiti ruke zbog 100kn. |
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cerichus
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 08/04/2021 : 21:53:05
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Šta je na kraju bilo s ovim ginkom,pokretačem topica? jel uspija sredit stvar? |
depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala |
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DiSkAcH
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 06:09:48
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Evo ja iskreno pokušavam zamisliti facu nekog policajca kojem ti objašnjavaš da si se sa nekim dog za prodaju omanje hrpe starih časopisa, stripova, bilo čega sličnog i on ti nije platio. Pa nemaš nikakvih dokaza, tvoja riječ protiv njegove. Tu se mora skupit više prevarenih i da zajedno probaju, ali opet, kakva korist ako je frajer npr nezaposlen i nema na papiru (a možda i zapravo) ni lipu u đepu? Nemožeš se naplatit, ne kažem, da ga se treba pustit, ali imam filing da se naše institucije tu nebi baš potrudile. Ali ništa vas ne košta probati.
EDIT: I da, ja nebi nikad, ali nikad dao neku robu tolike vrijednosti nekome na majkemi. Koliko god očajan bio, što ti vrijedi dati to nekom uz obećanje da će ti platit ali sada nema. OK, daj kolko imaš i biraj dio robe za tu vrijednost. Nemaš, OK bok, tražim dalje. Jer lovu i ovako i onako vidjet nećeš. Prilika čini lopova. |
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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 08:54:18
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quote: Originally posted by RAKOSI4 A najdraže mi je kad neki opisuju : on je divan,on je krasan, nikada s njim nisam imao problema,čovjek je legenda,on je humanitaran .
Zasto? To ti je isto kao kada bi svi pricali za nekog da je dobar a ti gusio par onih koji su bili prevareni. Treba da se zna sve a ne samo ruzna strana. Licno ja sam doziveo nekoliko vrlo prijatnih stvari od Ratka i to ne mogu da zaboravim. I kao neko ko je na srecu imao potpuno drugacije iskustvo imam samo jedan cilj u ovome, a to je da se dodje do potpune slike i resenja koje bi ispeglalo ovo sve. Citam ovo sto majmun pise i ne mogu a da se ne rastuzim, zato se nekako sve vreme nadam da ce se nekako Ratko vratiti iz ilegale i ispeglati sve to. |
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petarStripovi10
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Croatia
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supermark
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all_ba
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 10:29:32
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quote: Originally posted by sawitch
quote: Originally posted by RAKOSI4 A najdraže mi je kad neki opisuju : on je divan,on je krasan, nikada s njim nisam imao problema,čovjek je legenda,on je humanitaran .
Zasto? To ti je isto kao kada bi svi pricali za nekog da je dobar a ti gusio par onih koji su bili prevareni. Treba da se zna sve a ne samo ruzna strana. Licno ja sam doziveo nekoliko vrlo prijatnih stvari od Ratka i to ne mogu da zaboravim. I kao neko ko je na srecu imao potpuno drugacije iskustvo imam samo jedan cilj u ovome, a to je da se dodje do potpune slike i resenja koje bi ispeglalo ovo sve. Citam ovo sto majmun pise i ne mogu a da se ne rastuzim, zato se nekako sve vreme nadam da ce se nekako Ratko vratiti iz ilegale i ispeglati sve to.
Bravo @Savichu, ista je stvar i sa mnom. Samo lijepa iskustva me vežu za Ratka. Žao mi je što mu se sve ovo desilo. Ne vjerujem da je išao svjesno da prevari sve te ljude. I ja se iskreno nadam da će jednog dana svi dugovi biti isplaćeni dužnicima! |
C'est la vie... https://www.facebook.com/Revija-Bosona-455611547926400/timeline/
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supermark
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 10:36:08
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quote: Originally posted by all_ba
quote: Originally posted by sawitch
quote: Originally posted by RAKOSI4 A najdraže mi je kad neki opisuju : on je divan,on je krasan, nikada s njim nisam imao problema,čovjek je legenda,on je humanitaran .
Zasto? To ti je isto kao kada bi svi pricali za nekog da je dobar a ti gusio par onih koji su bili prevareni. Treba da se zna sve a ne samo ruzna strana. Licno ja sam doziveo nekoliko vrlo prijatnih stvari od Ratka i to ne mogu da zaboravim. I kao neko ko je na srecu imao potpuno drugacije iskustvo imam samo jedan cilj u ovome, a to je da se dodje do potpune slike i resenja koje bi ispeglalo ovo sve. Citam ovo sto majmun pise i ne mogu a da se ne rastuzim, zato se nekako sve vreme nadam da ce se nekako Ratko vratiti iz ilegale i ispeglati sve to.
Bravo @Savichu, ista je stvar i sa mnom. Samo lijepa iskustva me vežu za Ratka. Žao mi je što mu se sve ovo desilo. Ne vjerujem da je išao svjesno da prevari sve te ljude. I ja se iskreno nadam da će jednog dana svi dugovi biti isplaćeni dužnicima!
i meni se dogodi posudim stotine tisuća u robi pa zaboravim tko može na sve misliti?
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1Euro
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 10:40:20
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ma kakva policija. Svi koji ste oštečeni trebate skupiti novac za detektiva (privatni istražitelj) pa če ga on nači. Pa nije Hrvatska velika ko Rusija, da mu se tek tako izgubio trag. Taj detektiv ima ovlastice tražiti i po arhivima, po dokumentima (npr gdje je prijavljen, porezna uprava, gdje registrira kola,....) za koje ne može svatko pregledati tek tako. I kada ga nađe lijepo ga posjetite i dogovorite se sa njim. Ako nema novca, ima ledvicu koju može prodati, može osigurati prst kod osiguranja pa kada ne plača, odsječete mu prst i pokupite novac od osiguranja, možete mu osigurati kuču pa je zapaliti i pokupiti novac od osiguranja,....ima puno načina kako dobiti novac nazad. Ono čekati, da če vas se sam javiti je bez veze, da je htio to bi več napravio. |
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verab
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 10:45:42
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quote: Originally posted by all_ba
quote: Originally posted by sawitch
quote: Originally posted by RAKOSI4 A najdraže mi je kad neki opisuju : on je divan,on je krasan, nikada s njim nisam imao problema,čovjek je legenda,on je humanitaran .
Zasto? To ti je isto kao kada bi svi pricali za nekog da je dobar a ti gusio par onih koji su bili prevareni. Treba da se zna sve a ne samo ruzna strana. Licno ja sam doziveo nekoliko vrlo prijatnih stvari od Ratka i to ne mogu da zaboravim. I kao neko ko je na srecu imao potpuno drugacije iskustvo imam samo jedan cilj u ovome, a to je da se dodje do potpune slike i resenja koje bi ispeglalo ovo sve. Citam ovo sto majmun pise i ne mogu a da se ne rastuzim, zato se nekako sve vreme nadam da ce se nekako Ratko vratiti iz ilegale i ispeglati sve to.
Bravo @Savichu, ista je stvar i sa mnom. Samo lijepa iskustva me vežu za Ratka. Žao mi je što mu se sve ovo desilo. Ne vjerujem da je išao svjesno da prevari sve te ljude. I ja se iskreno nadam da će jednog dana svi dugovi biti isplaćeni dužnicima!
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borg
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Serbia
2307 Posts
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 12:37:42
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Okasnih sinoć čitajući ovaj topik...
Setih se nekog testa sa filozofskog fakulteta, jedno pitanje je bilo tipa: Inteligentan čovek veruje: a) prijateljima b) familiji c) najužoj porodici d) najboljem prijatelju e) ne veruje nikome
Tada mi delovao tačan odgovor malo paranoičan, bolestan... Nikako se nisam slagao sa tim. Al to bilo kad sam bio 20ak godina mlađi :)
Koliko sam shvatio ova priča i dalje nema kraj? |
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RAKOSI4
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 12:49:45
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Ko zna možda se preobratio , novac podijelio siromašnima  i sada na nekom raskrižju ulica dijeli blagoslovljene slike svetaca .... .... ko zna ........ tajnoviti su putevi gospodnji  |
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Macon
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Slovenia
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 12:51:11
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quote: Originally posted by borg
Okasnih sinoć čitajući ovaj topik...
Setih se nekog testa sa filozofskog fakulteta, jedno pitanje je bilo tipa: Inteligentan čovek veruje: a) prijateljima b) familiji c) najužoj porodici d) najboljem prijatelju e) ne veruje nikome
Tada mi delovao tačan odgovor malo paranoičan, bolestan... Nikako se nisam slagao sa tim. Al to bilo kad sam bio 20ak godina mlađi :)
Koliko sam shvatio ova priča i dalje nema kraj?
Šta, odgovor e? |
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BiDi
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Slovenia
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 13:23:17
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quote: Originally posted by Macon
Kako može neko sasvim nestati?
Prije nekoliko godina kad su ga več svi "tražili" i bio je glavna tema šetao se Interliberom kao da se ništa nije dogodilo. Bili su tamo svi kojima je bio dužani - i ništa (ok, to je bio za mnoge poslednji put da su ga videli). |
Tako mi mlijeka u prahu, kidam naljevo |
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PaoloRivera
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 13:23:27
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Nemam baš nikakvog udjela u ovoj priči, ali čitajući neke od ovih zadnjih postova, ne znam jesu li određeni pojedinci koji pišu stvarno tako naivni ili možda samo pokvareni... |
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sawitch
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Serbia
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Posted - 09/04/2021 : 16:34:02
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quote: Originally posted by BiDi
quote: Originally posted by Macon
Kako može neko sasvim nestati?
Prije nekoliko godina kad su ga več svi "tražili" i bio je glavna tema šetao se Interliberom kao da se ništa nije dogodilo. Bili su tamo svi kojima je bio dužani - i ništa (ok, to je bio za mnoge poslednji put da su ga videli).
Jbt. Pa niko ga nista nije pitao??? Koliko znam i Markosu je ostao duzan nakon zatvaranja striparnice. |
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