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Iluvatar
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
226 Posts

Member since 01/06/2021

Posted - 03/06/2021 : 18:48:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Iluvatar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nisam jezički stručnjak niti profesionalni prevodilac, ali po nekoj logici mislim da je strasan vic ok prevod. Strasni vic bi vec bilo problematicno. Treba u obzir uzeti kontekst naslova na jeziku na kojem je strip izvorno nastao. Ne ide ni ubistven ni smrtonosan osim ako pisac nije mislio na vic ili salu od koje se bukvalno umire.

Kod nas se na ovim prostorima termin strasan u prenesenom znacenju jako cesto koristi za opis necega sto je vrhunski, odlično, predobro...tipa strasan film, strasan auto, strasan gol i sl. Mislim da je autor u tom kontekstu zelio opisati naslov killing joke.
Mozda bi moglo i ubitacan ili ubojiti..

Tako da po mneni, strasan vic je sasvim ok, čak daje i određenu dozu jezivosti sto i ide uz jokera.

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PijaniPatak
stripovi.com suradnik



Germany
10035 Posts

Member since 20/02/2010

Posted - 03/06/2021 : 20:18:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send PijaniPatak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Prevodilacki je gadno resenje, ali je kljucno po razumevanje price
DNEVNIK CITANJA:
Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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zveles
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Croatia
4014 Posts

Member since 28/03/2003

Posted - 03/06/2021 : 21:07:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Iluvatar

Nisam jezički stručnjak niti profesionalni prevodilac, ali po nekoj logici mislim da je strasan vic ok prevod. Strasni vic bi vec bilo problematicno. Treba u obzir uzeti kontekst naslova na jeziku na kojem je strip izvorno nastao. Ne ide ni ubistven ni smrtonosan osim ako pisac nije mislio na vic ili salu od koje se bukvalno umire.

Kod nas se na ovim prostorima termin strasan u prenesenom znacenju jako cesto koristi za opis necega sto je vrhunski, odlično, predobro...tipa strasan film, strasan auto, strasan gol i sl. Mislim da je autor u tom kontekstu zelio opisati naslov killing joke.
Mozda bi moglo i ubitacan ili ubojiti..

Tako da po mneni, strasan vic je sasvim ok, čak daje i određenu dozu jezivosti sto i ide uz jokera.




Potpuno se slažem sa svime. Drago mi je da je još netko shvatio na što sam ciljao.
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I like girlz
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Member since 18/01/2005

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 11:17:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send I like girlz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
gdje je opet zakočilo sa "wheeling-om"?
"Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes"
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Poli
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Slovenia
38181 Posts

Member since 26/10/2007

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 11:28:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

kotrlja se
Anything is possible dec d uej
Be the Change You Want to See
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jagodanbg
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2913 Posts

Member since 17/07/2019

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 12:19:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jagodanbg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I like girlz

gdje je opet zakočilo sa "wheeling-om"?


Sto zakocilo?! Evo ga 'u pripremi' na njihovom sajtu!

Tornjevi 'opet' u sekciji 'u pripremi':
https://carobnaknjiga.rs/tornjevi-boa-morija
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ivan_micic
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Croatia
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Posted - 04/06/2021 : 14:48:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivan_micic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
masu novih najava na cobissu:
Vulverin. Logan
Nesavladivi. 1, Pravda i sveže povrće
Dedpul. 1 i 2, Lajavi strelac
Tornjevi Boa-Morija. Tom 1
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jagodanbg
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2913 Posts

Member since 17/07/2019

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 14:51:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jagodanbg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vulverin, omiljena edicija ❤️
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anto
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Serbia
21319 Posts

Member since 29/06/2008

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 16:01:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send anto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ivan_micic

masu novih najava na cobissu:
Vulverin. Logan
Nesavladivi. 1, Pravda i sveže povrće
Dedpul. 1 i 2, Lajavi strelac
Tornjevi Boa-Morija. Tom 1

dajte malo originalnosti
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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borg
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Serbia
2273 Posts

Member since 13/01/2020

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 16:26:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send borg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anto

quote:
Originally posted by ivan_micic

masu novih najava na cobissu:
Vulverin. Logan
Nesavladivi. 1, Pravda i sveže povrće
Dedpul. 1 i 2, Lajavi strelac
Tornjevi Boa-Morija. Tom 1

dajte malo originalnosti


Pa, dobijaju ljudi iste kataloge, izbacuju po 200 stripova godišnje i jedni i drugi. Normalno da bude preklapanja.

A i mislim da nisu jedni drugima konkurencija.
Resistance is futile.
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karven
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Serbia
1871 Posts

Member since 16/07/2006

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 16:30:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send karven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anto troluje, opusti se. Zna on dobro da ČK nije kupila prava, prevela i cipovala strip za par dana otkad je Fibra najavila svoje izdanje.
All is one in Darkseid. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with three billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with three billion hands.
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axle munshine
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Serbia
2372 Posts

Member since 14/06/2006

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 16:35:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Auuu... koji izbor naslovne za Tornjeve!?! Ima li pilota u ovom avionu, jbte...!?!
Ako su kod Bluberija skinuli onu nepotrebnu traku sa originala i odradili mnogo bolji dizajn, ovde su se vratili tri koraka unazad... ovakav dizajn verovatno rade deca početnici u osnovnoj... ovo je baš dno...
...BD, c'est la vie...
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Red Marquis
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Serbia
3323 Posts

Member since 06/11/2017

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 17:14:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Red Marquis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kad god ČK nešto najavi, forumaši upale generator "Zvocanje zarad zvocanja".

Ne valja naziv
Imaćemo manje brojeva no Ameri a isti sadržaj
Naziv edicije je glup
Logo je bezveze
Krade se Fibra
Pucaju rikne a strip još nisu ugledali
A što nije veće a isto jeftino?
Opet Simbol?!
Što mene nisu pitali koja naslovna?
Fali Bonelija još
Dokle više Betmen?
Zašto ne nastave nešto što je neko drugi počeo i nije mu se prodavalo?

Krivim internet, nikog ponaosob. Ljudi misle da moraju da nešto opletu, lepše i brže prođe dan.
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ivan_micic
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Croatia
2364 Posts

Member since 19/12/2007

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 17:17:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivan_micic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ja isto kažem, čemu zvocanje. ako se nekome ne sviđa,jednostavno neka ne kupi. svakome će neki k.... smetati
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axle munshine
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Serbia
2372 Posts

Member since 14/06/2006

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 17:28:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nije nikakvo "zvocanje"... valjda je svima nama u interesu da naslovi poput Tornjeva budu odrađeni maksimalno i ultimativno dobro... to se, naravno, odnosi i na dizajn naslovne... šta je tu sporno?
Ovde su sa kilavog konja skočili na bolesnog magarca, i to je tako jadno...
...BD, c'est la vie...
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ivan_micic
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Croatia
2364 Posts

Member since 19/12/2007

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 17:59:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ivan_micic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
istina, ova naslovnica je očajna. čak je ni ja ne bi ovakvu napravio :)
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axle munshine
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Serbia
2372 Posts

Member since 14/06/2006

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 18:15:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ivan_micic

istina, ova naslovnica je očajna. čak je ni ja ne bi ovakvu napravio :)

Da... amaterski do bola... nedostojno jednog vrhunskog serijala... ovo je prst u oko svakome ko je želeo da ima integrale ovog serijala...
...BD, c'est la vie...
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naker
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4894 Posts

Member since 05/06/2020

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 18:16:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send naker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@Markiz sad znaš kako je nama koji smo prinuđeni da čitamo jedno te iste cinične komentare o svakom (ne)izdanju Darkwooda
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jaki
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Croatia
27117 Posts

Member since 13/03/2004

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 18:20:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Babet srce?Srce Babet.
Ja sam fetišist papira!
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going going
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Serbia
11885 Posts

Member since 24/04/2012

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 18:47:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ivan_micic

masu novih najava na cobissu:
Vulverin. Logan
Nesavladivi. 1, Pravda i sveže povrće
Dedpul. 1 i 2, Lajavi strelac
Tornjevi Boa-Morija. Tom 1


Odličnooo!
Je l ste videli i najavu za po knjigu Rejmonda Čendlera i Dašijela Hameta?
Kao velikom ljubitelju hard boiled literature (i stripova i filmova) ova najava me je baš obradovala! Nisam do sad nikad čitao roman ni jednog od njij dvojice, dvojice majstora koji su inspirisali toliko noir filmova i stripova.
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axle munshine
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Serbia
2372 Posts

Member since 14/06/2006

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 18:48:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Babet srce?Srce Babet.

Da... to se odmah primeti...nema lektora, očigledno...
...BD, c'est la vie...
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Peyo
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Croatia
10447 Posts

Member since 28/10/2005

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 19:02:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Peyo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To je naslovnica kakvu ima i Dark Horse za Babette.
Edited by - Peyo on 04/06/2021 19:51:33
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jaki
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Croatia
27117 Posts

Member since 13/03/2004

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 19:26:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by axle munshine

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Babet srce?Srce Babet.

Da... to se odmah primeti...nema lektora, očigledno...

Mogli su i Babetino srce.
A šta će im lektor.Ja sam slab u gramatici pa im pronađem tonu krivog prijevoda.Njima treba urednik koji će strip pročitati s razumijevanjem.
Ja sam fetišist papira!
Edited by - jaki on 04/06/2021 19:27:26
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jaki
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Croatia
27117 Posts

Member since 13/03/2004

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 20:02:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peyo


Stvar nije u slici naslovnice već u ružnoj traci na naslovnici.
Odi na ČK pa vidi.
Ja sam fetišist papira!
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alexts
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Serbia
8733 Posts

Member since 25/09/2005

Posted - 04/06/2021 : 20:11:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send alexts a Private Message  Reply with Quote

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