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mladjo
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 16:48:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

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Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

quote:
Originally posted by stinky

[quote]

Ljudskije je da se pobrineš za bližnje, svoju ženu, djecu, ili puki slučaj, ako naiđeš da neki gorostas prebija nekog znatno slabijih snaga, tu je polje da se dokažeš, pacifistu i humanistu!


Jesi li ikad bija u situaciji da ti poznanik iz (baren tebi) nepoznatog razloga krene cipelarit curu?
Ako da, kakvo je tvoje iskustvo?




Naravno da laprda gluposti po običaju. Nije život Bonelli strip ili vestern film pa da se svatko može obraniti sjekirom ili pištoljem (ili, da može očekivati da će se pojaviti neki junak koji rješava stvari).



Ajmo zadržati razgovor u normalnijem tonu, može?

COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT
an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero

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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 16:51:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Popu pop, bobu bob.
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Beva
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 16:58:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Beva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

Bravo???
Rastopićuse.

A prije dvi stranice si vika da se nigdi ne slažemo.




Ja uvijek kažem da treba komunicirati, pa naravno da se nikad nećemo složiti oko svega, ali treba pokušati razumjeti nekoga tko razmišlja drukčije. Dok se god razmišlja, dobro je!

Evo recimo, stinky mene konstantno doživljava kao nekakvog borca za pravdu i jednakost, a ja ustvari živim njegov ideal: skladan brak, troje djece, krov nad glavom, pa kud ćeš ljepše! Sad bi možda on rekao da je to nekakva malograđanština, ali ja sam se stvarno ostvario u svojoj obitelji i ne bih se mijenjao ni s kim nizašto. Vidim da pomalo ublažava nastup prema meni i to je upravo zato što razgovaramo, bolje se razumijemo, pa makar se ni u čemu ne složili.

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manhunter
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:03:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

Opa, lista neoženjenih filozofa je poduža

Wittgenstein, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Kant, Voltaire, Hume, Adam Smith, Leibnitz, Newton, Spinoza, Locke, Descartes, Hobbes, Aquinas, Platon



Latentni homići, hronične drkadžije i onemoćali.

I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.

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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:03:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Beva, pitanje

Zamisli da imaš priliku pročaskati sa nekim diktatorom, recimo Hitlerom, ili serijskim ubojicom, npr Ted Bundyem, pa ih pitati koje stripove čitaju, koja im je filozofija života itd. Bi li iskoristio priliku?
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Beva
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:09:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Beva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

Beva, pitanje

Zamisli da imaš priliku pročaskati sa nekim diktatorom, recimo Hitlerom, ili serijskim ubojicom, npr Ted Bundyem, pa ih pitati koje stripove čitaju, koja im je filozofija života itd. Bi li iskoristio priliku?



Sad si me uhvatio nespremnog, ali da, sumnjam da bi me zanimalo koje stripove čitaju (to je ukus, nije toliko bitno), ali dobiti uvid u razmišljanje takvih devijantnih umova svakako bi bilo zanimljivo. Nije Hitler bez razloga zaludio mase, pa ni Bundy za vrijeme suđenja, to su ljudi jakih osobnosti ali bez sumnje totalni sociopati. Ne bih tražio uzroke takvih ponašanja, ali bi mi bilo zanimljivo kako sebi pravdaju svoje postupke. Ja bih se, recimo, da sam učinio i djelić onoga što su oni učinili, odmah bacio s najbližeg mosta.

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lwood
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:36:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

kronična nejebica sjebe glavu.




Ironično je to da je sam Ubermensch osobno (Friedrich Nietzche) upravo bio kronični djevac.

kronicni djevac? Covik umra od sifilisa

narocito na one koji su uspješni.
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lwood
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:38:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Beva

quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

Beva, pitanje

Zamisli da imaš priliku pročaskati sa nekim diktatorom, recimo Hitlerom, ili serijskim ubojicom, npr Ted Bundyem, pa ih pitati koje stripove čitaju, koja im je filozofija života itd. Bi li iskoristio priliku?



Sad si me uhvatio nespremnog, ali da, sumnjam da bi me zanimalo koje stripove čitaju (to je ukus, nije toliko bitno), ali dobiti uvid u razmišljanje takvih devijantnih umova svakako bi bilo zanimljivo. Nije Hitler bez razloga zaludio mase, pa ni Bundy za vrijeme suđenja, to su ljudi jakih osobnosti ali bez sumnje totalni sociopati. Ne bih tražio uzroke takvih ponašanja, ali bi mi bilo zanimljivo kako sebi pravdaju svoje postupke. Ja bih se, recimo, da sam učinio i djelić onoga što su oni učinili, odmah bacio s najbližeg mosta.

Ti si vise na semu P.R.Filho-a

narocito na one koji su uspješni.
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:38:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beva

quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

Beva, pitanje

Zamisli da imaš priliku pročaskati sa nekim diktatorom, recimo Hitlerom, ili serijskim ubojicom, npr Ted Bundyem, pa ih pitati koje stripove čitaju, koja im je filozofija života itd. Bi li iskoristio priliku?



Sad si me uhvatio nespremnog, ali da, sumnjam da bi me zanimalo koje stripove čitaju (to je ukus, nije toliko bitno), ali dobiti uvid u razmišljanje takvih devijantnih umova svakako bi bilo zanimljivo. Nije Hitler bez razloga zaludio mase, pa ni Bundy za vrijeme suđenja, to su ljudi jakih osobnosti ali bez sumnje totalni sociopati. Ne bih tražio uzroke takvih ponašanja, ali bi mi bilo zanimljivo kako sebi pravdaju svoje postupke. Ja bih se, recimo, da sam učinio i djelić onoga što su oni učinili, odmah bacio s najbližeg mosta.



Pa da, ali to je to: ne možeš sa njima samo ležerno pročaskati, jednom kad znaš tko su i kakvi su. Razgovor te ovdje neće njima približiti, osim u hipotetičkom slučaju da se ovi kaju za svoje zločine.
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:39:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

kronična nejebica sjebe glavu.




Ironično je to da je sam Ubermensch osobno (Friedrich Nietzche) upravo bio kronični djevac.

kronicni djevac? Covik umra od sifilisa



Umro je nakon što je nekih 10-12 godina proveo paraliziran i pomračena uma, nešto si pobrkao.
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:40:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send NESVRSTANI a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

kronična nejebica sjebe glavu.




Ironično je to da je sam Ubermensch osobno (Friedrich Nietzche) upravo bio kronični djevac.

kronicni djevac? Covik umra od sifilisa


A i šta bi bija "kronični djevac"?
Koja je razlika od običnog djevca?

Doli sve stranke!!!
Živili naši dušmani!!!
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Beva
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:43:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Beva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

Pa da, ali to je to: ne možeš sa njima samo ležerno pročaskati, jednom kad znaš tko su i kakvi su. Razgovor te ovdje neće njima približiti, osim u hipotetičkom slučaju da se ovi kaju za svoje zločine.



A na to ciljaš, pa nitko od nas ovdje nije baš na razini Hitlera ili Bundija, bar se nadam :D

Tko zna, da su oni malo više pokušali razumjeti druge na vrijeme, možda bi bili manje ekstremni. Sumnjam, ali nikad se ne zna ;)

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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:45:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

kronična nejebica sjebe glavu.




Ironično je to da je sam Ubermensch osobno (Friedrich Nietzche) upravo bio kronični djevac.

kronicni djevac? Covik umra od sifilisa


A i šta bi bija "kronični djevac"?
Koja je razlika od običnog djevca?



Uberdjevac.
Da, vidim da se govorkalo da je dobio sifilis od prostitutki. No to je samo teorija.
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lwood
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:49:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by NESVRSTANI

kronična nejebica sjebe glavu.




Ironično je to da je sam Ubermensch osobno (Friedrich Nietzche) upravo bio kronični djevac.

kronicni djevac? Covik umra od sifilisa



Umro je nakon što je nekih 10-12 godina proveo paraliziran i pomračena uma, nešto si pobrkao.

Nista ja nisan pobrka.




on syphilis & the nature of Nietzsche’s madness
AUTHOR Lynn Margulis

In the foothills of the Italian Alps, in a snow-draped piazza in Turin on January 3, 1889, a driver was flogging his horse when a man flung his arms around the poor beast’s neck, his tears soaking its mane. The horse’s savior was the German philosopher Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1844–1900). His landlord later found him collapsed in the square and brought him back to his room, where Nietzsche spent the night writing a flurry of bizarre postcards. As soon as his friend and colleague Jacob Burckhardt received a crazed letter, he convinced his close friend Peter Gast to go and accompany Nietzsche on his return to Basel. Much of the rest of the century, the last eleven years of his life, Nietzsche spent in incoherent madness, crouching in corners and drinking his urine. The most productive year of his career had been immediately prior to the psychotic break. After it, he wrote no more philosophy. Deborah Hayden, in her recent book Pox: Genius, Madness, and the Mysteries of Syphilis (2003), summed up the famous incident:

The story of Nietzsche’s sudden plummet from the most advanced thought of his time to raving dementia is often told as if there were a razor’s edge demarcation between sanity and tertiary syphilis, as if on 3 January armies of spirochetes woke suddenly from decades of slumber and attacked the brain, instead of the biological reality that paresis is a gradual process presaged over many years.

Hayden’s case to prove that Nietzsche indeed suffered all his adult life from syphilis is as strong as any posthumous medical history can be. He was diagnosed at a time when clinical familiarity with the disease abounded. Detailed evidence shows that he passed through each of the three stages: the chancre of primary syphilis immediately after infection; the terrible pox, fever, and pain of secondary syphilis that emerges months or years later; and the dreaded third: paresis. ‘Paresis,’ like the word ‘syphilis’ itself, refers to a syndrome. An acronym, its mnemonic is: personality disturbances; affect abnormalities; reflex hyperactivity; eye abnormalities; sensorium changes; intellectual impairment; and slurred speech. Paresis often begins with a dramatic delusional episode, but in the following months and years dementia alternates with periods of such clarity that there seems to have been a cure.

Infection by the spirochete of syphilis – declared eradicated in the mid-twentieth century – still prevails, I believe. The efficacy of early treatment with penicillin, improved hygiene, condom use, and attitudes that lead the afflicted to seek help for venereal disease conspire to bolster the common myth that syphilis has disappeared. We are deceived; many people suffer from syphilis called by other names.

Syphilis symptoms are caused by venereal infection with a spirochete bacterium called Treponema pallidum. The treponeme family of spirochetes consists of tiny corkscrew-shaped bacteria, all of which swim and grow in animal tissue. The bacterial flagella are encased within an outer membrane. Spirochetes, like other ‘gram negative’ bacteria, all have two cell membranes with a space between them. In this periplasmic space between the inner and outer membranes the flagella rotate. Smaller spirochetes such as the syphilis treponeme have only one or two such flagella, whereas some giant spirochetes have more than three hundred. The efficient screw-wise motion into genital and other tissue requires this flagellar arrangement.

Treponema pallidum is one freak among a huge diversity. The vast majority of spirochetes live peacefully in mud, swamps, and waterlogged soils all over the world. Benign, ‘free-living’ spirochete relatives of Treponema pallidum are everywhere. They thrive where food is plentiful: lakeshores rich in decaying vegetation, marine animal carcasses, hot sulfurous springs, intestines of wood-eating termites and cockroaches, and the human mouth. Most kinds are poisoned by oxygen, from which they swim away to avoid. Very few cause illness, yet ticks infected with the Borrelia burgdorferi spirochete of Lyme disease can induce serious arthritis and other enduring symptoms. Another spirochete nearly indistinguishable from the Lyme disease Borrelia is a healthy symbiont in the intestines of termites. A treponeme similar to that of syphilis is associated with the tropical eye disease yaws. Leptospirosis, a systemic and sometimes fatal infection found usually in fishermen, is due to spirochetes that are carried in the kidney tubules of rats that urinate into nearby water. The fishermen acquire Leptospira spirochetes from fishhook cuts and other skin lesions. And, of course, there is syphilis.

Nietzsche’s letters from 1867 until his breakdown provide a vivid account of the suffering of secondary syphilis. He complains of the pain, skin sores, weakness, and loss of vision that typify the repertoire of the disease. In his last year, his letters give evidence of euphoria. His published works show the grandeur and inspiration that tertiary syphilis sometimes brings to brilliant and disciplined creative minds by removing inhibition as brain tissue is destroyed. When Nietzsche wrote in Thus Spoke Zarathustra (1884), “Die Erde, sagte Er, hat eine Haut; und diese Haut hat Krankheiten. Eine diese Krankheit heist zum Beispiel: ‘Mensch’” (translated as “The Earth, he says, has a skin, and this skin has a sickness. One of these sicknesses is called ‘man,’” or as “The Earth is a beautiful place but it has a pox called man”), what terrible insight Nietzsche must have had into the devastating horror of pox!

Multiple sources indicate that he was treated for syphilis in 1867 at age twenty-three. Seeking medical treatment for eye inflammation, a frequent syphilitic symptom, he consulted Dr. Otto Eiser, who reported not only Nietzsche’s penile lesions, but that he had engaged in sexual relations several times on doctor’s orders! Years later, in 1889, when Nietzsche broke down and was taken to the clinic of a paresis expert, he was admitted with the diagnosis “1866. Syphilit. Infect.”

In 1888 Nietzsche’s productivity was, by any standard, extraordinary. He completed his philosophical project: Twilight of the Idols, The Antichrist, Ecce Homo, and The Case of Wagner. The style of these works is apocalyptic, prophetic, incendiary, and megalomaniacal, leading many scholars to claim the excesses of these works were due to incipient paresis. Now, after more than half a millennium of the study of syphilis and more than a century after Nietzsche’s breakdown, our research suggests that the philosopher really did plummet abruptly into madness; armies of spirochetes did awaken suddenly from decades of slumber, and literally began to eat his brain.

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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 17:50:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Našao sam taj tekst. No kažem, našao sam i drugi tekst koji govori suprotno, da je riječ o nastojanju "blaćenja Nietzchea".

Nietzsche's insanity was originally diagnosed as tertiary syphilis, in accordance with a prevailing medical paradigm of the time. Although most commentators[who?] regard his breakdown as unrelated to his philosophy, Georges Bataille dropped dark hints ("'Man incarnate' must also go mad")[78] and René Girard's postmortem psychoanalysis posits a worshipful rivalry with Richard Wagner.[79] Nietzsche had previously written, "All superior men who were irresistibly drawn to throw off the yoke of any kind of morality and to frame new laws had, if they were not actually mad, no alternative but to make themselves or pretend to be mad." (Daybreak, 14) The diagnosis of syphilis has since been challenged and a diagnosis of "manic-depressive illness with periodic psychosis followed by vascular dementia" was put forward by Cybulska prior to Schain's study.[80][81] Leonard Sax suggested the slow growth of a right-sided retro-orbital meningioma as an explanation of Nietzsche's dementia;[82] Orth and Trimble postulated frontotemporal dementia[83] while other researchers have proposed a hereditary stroke disorder called CADASIL.[84] Poisoning by mercury, a treatment for syphilis at the time of Nietzsche's death,[85] has also been suggested.[86]


Edited by - Zoroasterixx on 24/08/2022 18:07:09
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lwood
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 18:11:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Blacenja? Pa ti si napisa da je djevac ne ja.

narocito na one koji su uspješni.
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 18:12:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Blacenja? Pa ti si napisa da je djevac ne ja.



Što je gore, biti djevac ili umrijeti od sifilisa? :D

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lwood
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 18:19:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

Blacenja? Pa ti si napisa da je djevac ne ja.



Što je gore, biti djevac ili umrijeti od sifilisa? :D



Ma kakvi djevci,kakvi bakraci. Tad se najnormalnije islo u bordele. Bez zastite. Nes ti onda problema skupit sifilis.

narocito na one koji su uspješni.
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 18:20:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lwood

quote:
Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

quote:
Originally posted by lwood

Blacenja? Pa ti si napisa da je djevac ne ja.



Što je gore, biti djevac ili umrijeti od sifilisa? :D



Ma kakvi djevci,kakvi bakraci. Tad se najnormalnije islo u bordele. Bez zastite. Nes ti onda problema skupit sifilis.



A ok, onda nije bio djevac. S druge strane, nikada se nije oženio ni imao obitelj.
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 20:14:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit stinky's Homepage  Send stinky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Beva
skladan brak, troje djece, krov nad glavom, pa kud ćeš ljepše! Sad bi možda on rekao da je to nekakva malograđanština, ali ja sam se stvarno ostvario u svojoj obitelji i ne bih se mijenjao ni s kim nizašto. Vidim da pomalo ublažava nastup prema meni i to je upravo zato što razgovaramo, bolje se razumijemo, pa makar se ni u čemu ne složili.



Ni u ludilu te ne bih zezao po ovom pitanju, nego naprotiv, izuzetno mi je drago! Tu si ti bolji, znači na polju životne realizacije, nego što si u promišljanju i uopće je šteta da si, evo da ublažim riječ, zaveden glupastim narativima i prosječnim ukusom. Na žalost, to ste mnogi ovdje: propadate u zoni komfora, odnosno onome što vam je jedino poznato, tj. natureno od tzv. javnosti. A sada je matrica: budi osviješten, društveno angažiran i sve u tom stilu. Tako vas se izvlači iz one Heideggerove "istine bitka" (najvažnija stvar u životu, tu čovjek stoji ili pada) i uvlači u Supermašinu (planetarno tehničko-kalkulantsko glavinjanje bez kraja i konca).

Edited by - stinky on 24/08/2022 20:15:32
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stinky
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Evo jednostavno pitanje za sve sudionike:

Što je bitnije u životu: imati sreće ili dobro organizirane institucije?
Može li pojedinac utjecati na prvo ili na drugo ili na oba ili na nijedno od toga?

(očekujem prvog tintona da odgovori na ovo par exellence političko pitanje)
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izivko
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 20:57:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pitanje je što je sreća i što čovjeka čini sretnim. Ima jedan dobar strip o tome.

"Ko je sretan ni u hali nije gladan". Dakle bitnije je imati sreće.

Pojedinac nema utjecaja na sreću a još manje na institucije.

Ode sad gledat Dinamo.

Have mercy
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 21:21:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send NESVRSTANI a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stinky

Evo jednostavno pitanje za sve sudionike:

Što je bitnije u životu: imati sreće ili dobro organizirane institucije?
Može li pojedinac utjecati na prvo ili na drugo ili na oba ili na nijedno od toga?

(očekujem prvog tintona da odgovori na ovo par exellence političko pitanje)


Jel misliš na sriću tipa dobit na lotu ili naslijedit od dalekog rođaka bogatsvo ili na sriću tipa imat skladnu obitelj?
Na sriću prve vrste nemožeš utjecat(Osin da redovno igraš loto), na ovu drugu vrstu možeš.
Šta se institucija tiče, u demokratskon društvu čovik može utjecat na njih. Teoretski puno više nego u praksi, ali ipak može.

E da, bitnije je imat sriće.
Znaš kako se ono kaže:"Ko je sritan ni u zahodu nije gladan", ili meni još draža:"Bolje se rodit bez kurca nego bez sriće".

Doli sve stranke!!!
Živili naši dušmani!!!

Edited by - NESVRSTANI on 24/08/2022 21:23:14
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Zoroasterixx
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 21:44:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zoroasterixx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Beva

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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

Pa da, ali to je to: ne možeš sa njima samo ležerno pročaskati, jednom kad znaš tko su i kakvi su. Razgovor te ovdje neće njima približiti, osim u hipotetičkom slučaju da se ovi kaju za svoje zločine.



A na to ciljaš, pa nitko od nas ovdje nije baš na razini Hitlera ili Bundija, bar se nadam :D




A inače, je li za "biti dobar čovjek" dovoljno da se bude "ne tako loš kao Hitler/Bundy"?
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Beva
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Posted - 24/08/2022 : 22:16:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Beva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Zoroasterixx

A inače, je li za "biti dobar čovjek" dovoljno da se bude "ne tako loš kao Hitler/Bundy"?



Je li svijet isključivo crn ili bijel? Gomila je nijansi između. Većina ljudi za sebe smatra da su "dobri", što god to značilo. Uostalom, moral se mijenja, prije tisuću godina mogao si čovjeku iščupati srce i biti cijenjen kao moralan čovjek unutar svoje zajednice. Ja za sebe vjerujem da sam moralan čovjek, netko se možda ne bi složio i to je u redu.

Meni osobno najbitnija je namjera. Ako iz razgovora osjetim da netko stvarno vjeruje u to što govori, i iskreno želi pomoći na način dijametralno suprotan od mojih stavova, neću misliti ništa loše o tom čovjeku. U životu i politici najviše prezirem licemjerje. Okružen sam političarima (Hercegovina) koji se kunu u neke tradicionalne vrijednosti, a svojim djelovanjem postigli su to da gomila naroda u kojeg se kunu bježi glavom bez obzira dok su se isti ti političari bezobrazno obogatili. Tu nema vrijednosti, to je predstava za mase. Možda djeluje trivijalno, ali kad se doslovno škole gase jer nema djece, posljedice se itekako osjete.

Došao sam do toga da bih glasao za najvećeg desničara samo ako sam uvjeren da je pošten, najozbiljnije. Ionako u mom kraju lijeve opcije i nema.

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