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jaki
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Posted - 04/07/2023 : 18:30:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ma ajde izaberi ili stavi neku drugu sliku..
Zbunjujuće je jer prvo vidim avatar pa tek onda ako i uopće ime..
Nije da nema milijuna slika...

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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bristova
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Posted - 05/07/2023 : 21:46:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bristova a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mister NO, piper i AI (ChatGPT)

Postovanje ekipa..
Pitah danas ChatGPT koji avion ima MisterNo..
Mozda ce vas zanimati odgovor:

Do ypu know comic book hero Mister No?
ChatGPT
Yes, I'm familiar with the comic book hero Mister No. Mister No, also known as Jerry Drake, is an Italian comic book character created by the writer Sergio Bonelli and artist Gallieno Ferri. The character first appeared in "Mister No" #1 in 1975.
Mister No is an adventurous and independent pilot who finds himself involved in various dangerous and thrilling situations in the Amazon rainforest in Brazil. The stories often involve mystery, exploration, and encounters with indigenous tribes, criminals, and supernatural elements.
Jerry Drake, the main character, is known for his rugged appearance, resourcefulness, and his Cessna 206 airplane named "Marta." The series has gained popularity in Italy and other parts of Europe, and Mister No has become one of the well-known characters in Italian comics.

Was it his plane actually piper

ChatGPT
Apologies for the previous incorrect information. You are correct, Mister No's plane is a Piper, not a Cessna. The aircraft he flies is a Piper Cherokee, specifically a Piper PA-28 Cherokee 180. This high-wing, single-engine aircraft is a prominent element in the Mister No comic series and is often referred to by its registration number, I-MAVA. The Piper Cherokee is an important part of Mister No's character and is frequently featured in his adventures in the Amazon rainforest. Thank you for pointing out the error, and I apologize for any confusion caused.

Why did you think it was Cesna in the first question?

ChatGPT
I apologize for the incorrect information in my initial response. As an AI language model, I rely on pre-existing knowledge, and occasionally errors or inaccuracies can occur. In this case, there was an error in my response, mistakenly mentioning a Cessna instead of the correct aircraft, which is a Piper Cherokee.
I strive to provide accurate and helpful information, but I'm not infallible. I appreciate your understanding and patience. If you have any further questions or need assistance with anything else, please let me know, and I'll be happy to help.

I think is not Piper Cherokee cause Cherokee has a low wings, and Mister No Piper has a high wings
ChatGPT
You are correct, and I apologize for the confusion. I misspoke again in my previous response. Mister No's aircraft does indeed have a high wing configuration, not a low wing. I apologize for the incorrect information regarding the specific model of the aircraft.
In the Mister No comics, his airplane is depicted as a high-wing aircraft, similar to a Piper Super Cub or a Piper PA-18. The exact model or designation of the aircraft in the comic series may not be explicitly stated. The important aspect is that Mister No's aircraft has a high-wing configuration, which is commonly associated with better visibility and maneuverability in certain conditions.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and I apologize for any confusion caused by my previous responses. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.

So, which model of piper had Mister no?
ChatGPT
In the Mister No comic series, the specific model of the Piper aircraft flown by the character Mister No is not explicitly mentioned. The aircraft is depicted with a high-wing configuration, similar to a Piper Super Cub or a Piper PA-18.
While the exact model is not specified, it is often referred to as a "Piper" or a "Piper Cherokee" in some sources. However, it's important to note that the Piper Cherokee series typically features a low-wing configuration, which differs from the high-wing aircraft portrayed in the comic series.
Given the lack of specific information regarding the exact model, it can be considered a fictional representation of a Piper aircraft with a high-wing configuration in the Mister No comics. The emphasis in the series is more on the character's adventures and the storyline rather than precise technical details of the aircraft.

Now you are right
ChatGPT
Thank you for your understanding. I apologize for the initial confusion caused by my incorrect responses. I strive to provide accurate information, and I appreciate your patience in clarifying the details about Mister No's aircraft. If you have any more questions or if there's anything else I can assist you with, please feel free to ask.


Cudi me koliko je AI grijesio.. u svakom slucaju zanimljivo.
Da li ce ubuduce odgovoriti tocno na ovo pitanje?

Lijepi pozdrav ekipa

Edited by - bristova on 05/07/2023 21:49:13
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petarStripovi10
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Posted - 05/07/2023 : 21:54:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send petarStripovi10 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo koliko gluposti oko tok chat gpt-a. To je poluproizvod upitne kvalitete.
Rađe se držim google-a pa što nađe nađe:
http://www.maketarstvo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19151&sid=bc058f0252dc46755cb7e724ee35d699

Dobar stari specijalizirani forum s provjerenim podacima stručnjaka, ovi iz 2011.

Kladim se da bi ekipa s ovog foruma, predmjevam njih 30 aktivnih, znala točnije podatke o stripovima nego ai gpt 3, 4...

Edited by - petarStripovi10 on 05/07/2023 21:58:14
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bristova
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Posted - 05/07/2023 : 22:07:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bristova a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ma nije problem u informaciji.. Pratim MisterNo-a od kada je izasao prvi broj u SFRJ, ljeto je bilo, tamo 1982-e koliko se sjecam..
Poanta je kako ChatGpT pogrijesi ali i ispravi pogresku.. vjerovatno se i uci na svojim greskama.
Za mene koji sam odrastao na Commodore 64 i koji sam na forumu od 2002 je AI interesantan

Edited by - bristova on 05/07/2023 22:13:37
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sawitch
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Posted - 06/07/2023 : 08:35:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sawitch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@Bristova

Mozes sa chat gpt-om da komuniciras i na nasem, ne moras na engleskom :)

Patricia hic mea totus mundus est
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nenad.nbgd
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Posted - 06/07/2023 : 12:58:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nenad.nbgd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Koliko znam, Mister Noov avion je Pajper PA-16 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-16_Clipper). PA-18 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-18_Super_Cub) se nikako ne uklapa zbog položaja vrata na trupu aviona.
Naravno, možda je moje znanje klimavo, ali sam poprilično siguran oko ovog tačnog odgovora.

P.S. "#$% vas avatar! :D Promenio sam ga. :D :D :D
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bristova
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Posted - 06/07/2023 : 21:08:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bristova a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@sawitch znam, hvala
Pisem engleski po navici

@nenad.nbgd
Da, slazem se, mogao bi biti PA-16 iako je po nekim talijanima PA-14
https://www.ubcfumetti.com/misterno/?25426&pag=2
a po nekima nasima je PA-22
http://www.maketarstvo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19151&sid=bc058f0252dc46755cb7e724ee35d699

Mislim da je PA-22 najmanje vjerovatno s obzirom da Mister No ima stari pajper a PA-22 je stavljen proizveden krajem 1950. god.
PA-14 i PA-16 su proizvodjeni krajem 1940-ih.

Edited by - bristova on 06/07/2023 21:10:38
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nenad.nbgd
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Posted - 07/07/2023 : 15:11:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nenad.nbgd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@bristova
Verujem da niko od nas (a i bilo ko od Italijana) neće nikada tačno utvrditi koji je avion u pitanju. ;)
Probaću (ako nađem vremena) da se vratim na prvih 10ak epizoda Mister Noa i pokušam da utvrdim šta je najpribližniji odgovor.

Nego, u nekom od specijala (onaj sa Marti Misterijom, čini mi se) Mister No pilotira Cesnom C-172, ako se ne varam (u priči je da je on vlasnik kompanije koja se bavi avio-taxi službom i ima celu flotu aviona, zar ne)?
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Svarog
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Posted - 07/07/2023 : 16:02:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Svarog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne može da bude Cessna 172, koje se koristi od 1956., tako da nije taj.

First flight June 12, 1955
Introduction 1956
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bristova
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Posted - 07/07/2023 : 21:54:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bristova a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@nenad.nbg
Ne sjecam se toliko detalja, mislim da si u pravu
@Svarog
U specijalu gdje se MrNO i Marti nalaze skupa radnja se zbiva sredinom 1980-ih .. tako da je Cesna sasvim vjerovatna

Edited by - bristova on 07/07/2023 21:54:29
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Spock
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Posted - 08/07/2023 : 23:56:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Spock a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dugoočekivana recenzija u Reem koprodukciji ugledala je svjetlo dana:

https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/mister-no-mn-lib-64-rudnik-straha/3051/

Kamo god da kreneš, uvijek si tu.
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Ivan Liverpool
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Posted - 15/07/2023 : 17:31:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ivan Liverpool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/mister-no-mn-lib-23-pobunjenici-s-escuala/2361/

Evo bas citao epizodu, pa samo da javim kako gore u podacima fali ime scenarista, pise N/A. I Spock u recenziji i drugi u komentarima su pisali kako je rijec o Missagliji (a i pisalo je u izdanju koje sam citao preko skena), samo gore nije upisano pa da mozete dodati.

"Losing is not my enemy. Fear of losing is my enemy."
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Ivan Liverpool
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Posted - 15/07/2023 : 17:37:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ivan Liverpool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/mister-no-mn-lib-33-argentina/1483/

Malo sam listao recenzije unaprijed, ovdje isto stoji N/A, a vidio sam da takoder i recenzent i komentatori navode kako je o Missagliji rijec. Ne bi bilo lose provjeriti i druge price koje je on pisao, mozda jos negdje fali.

"Losing is not my enemy. Fear of losing is my enemy."

Edited by - Ivan Liverpool on 15/07/2023 17:37:13
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Ivan Liverpool
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Posted - 15/07/2023 : 19:43:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ivan Liverpool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Opet ja

https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/mister-no-mn-lms-662-663-eldorado/778/

Ovdje bi uz Montija na crtezu trebao i Merati biti naveden, vise njih je u svojim komentarima potvrdilo kako je crtez djelo dvojca Monti/Merati.

"Losing is not my enemy. Fear of losing is my enemy."
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ReemCP
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Posted - 15/07/2023 : 19:51:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ReemCP a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dodano sve :)

Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.
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Ivan Liverpool
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Posted - 17/07/2023 : 14:27:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ivan Liverpool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mislim da se nakon dodavanja Missaglije u gore navedene recenzije (ono sto sam prekjucer javljao) nesto zmrdalo jer sam sad uocio da u ove dvije pise N/A, a po rijecima recenzenata i komentatora tu bi isto trebao biti Missaglia scenarist.

https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/mister-no-mn-lib-27-krstarenje-iz-nocne-more/1487/
https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/mister-no-mn-lib-28-nestali-zrakoplov/2353/

Prekjucer kad sam javljao sam bio prolistao do 100 i nekog broja originala i svugdje je pisalo ime scenarista tako da mi bas cudno da je sad nestalo odjednom.

"Losing is not my enemy. Fear of losing is my enemy."
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ReemCP
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Posted - 18/07/2023 : 07:37:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ReemCP a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dodao Ivane, inače ne znam zašto se to ponekad događa.
Iako se ti autori ovako vide kao "nestali", kad odem na -edit, oni tamo stoje, ja samo još jednom prođem te korake, sve samo "potvrdi" i vratim ih natrag.
Možda je neki bug u pitanju pa ponekad zeza..
Zna biti tako i kod drugih strip junaka kod recenzija.

Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.
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Ivan Liverpool
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Posted - 18/07/2023 : 08:48:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ivan Liverpool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pretpostavljao sam da je neki bug u pitanju, tim vise sto za ove dvije sam uvjeren da su prekjucer uredno pisali podaci. Ako ponovno naletim na slicne stvari, svakako javim u pripadnoj temi.

"Losing is not my enemy. Fear of losing is my enemy."
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DOMI
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Posted - 18/07/2023 : 17:45:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DOMI a Private Message  Reply with Quote
# 37

Najnoviji broj!!

• 54 god.Alan Forda u HR • Od 1970.-2017.izdana su 1063 broja (ukljucujuci Klasik, Super KL, Zlatni KL) •
• Od 2022.Alan Ford u originalnim tablama formata 17x24 cm u novom kolekcionarskom TOP izdanju •
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DOMI
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Posted - 20/07/2023 : 21:12:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DOMI a Private Message  Reply with Quote
#38
38.knjiga omiljenog nam pilota uskoro u prodaji


• 54 god.Alan Forda u HR • Od 1970.-2017.izdana su 1063 broja (ukljucujuci Klasik, Super KL, Zlatni KL) •
• Od 2022.Alan Ford u originalnim tablama formata 17x24 cm u novom kolekcionarskom TOP izdanju •
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Jozzinelli
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Posted - 23/07/2023 : 15:45:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Jozzinelli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nije mi jasno zašto Libelusovci uporno izbegavaju ovu mnogo bolju naslovnicu za tu epizodu?!





Mek Koj nema alternativu
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john connor
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Posted - 23/07/2023 : 19:12:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send john connor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Da, jeste bolja. Mogli su sada makar da promene.
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velka031
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Posted - 23/07/2023 : 22:22:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Strašan ritam!
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DOMI
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Posted - 24/07/2023 : 11:36:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DOMI a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jozzinelli

Nije mi jasno zašto Libelusovci uporno izbegavaju ovu mnogo bolju naslovnicu za tu epizodu?!








da, bolja je... A i ovaj sitniji logo Mister NO// meni osobno manji logo bolje izgleda od onog IT predimenzioniranog koji guta 20% naslovnice...

• 54 god.Alan Forda u HR • Od 1970.-2017.izdana su 1063 broja (ukljucujuci Klasik, Super KL, Zlatni KL) •
• Od 2022.Alan Ford u originalnim tablama formata 17x24 cm u novom kolekcionarskom TOP izdanju •

Edited by - DOMI on 24/07/2023 23:19:44
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going going
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Posted - 24/07/2023 : 21:58:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DOMI

quote:
Originally posted by Jozzinelli

Nije mi jasno zašto Libelusovci uporno izbegavaju ovu mnogo bolju naslovnicu za tu epizodu?!








da, bolja je... A i ovaj sitniji logo Mister NO meni osobno bolje izgleda od ovog predimenzioniranog koji guta 20% naslovnice...
Na svakoj novoj seriji reprinta dodatno su povećavali logo, pogotovo na onoj plavoj seriji (IT), ne kontam zašto



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