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sawitch
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Posted - 31/10/2020 : 10:27:45
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Procitao. Kako opisati ovo. Kao kada bi recimo od prva tri integrala izvukao pulpu i ostao samo onaj vodeni, providni sok. I daje to ima ukus ali je liseno onog sto vam golica nepce. Najslabiji deo ubedljivo. Paradoksalne situacije sa vremenskim skokovima. Kao Lost u najgorem delu. Ali, naravno da ima “ali”.. Ne bi bio zaokruzen ovaj svet bez ovog integrala. Iako pojma nemam gde hronoloski upadaju albumi Prezivjelih vidim da se naslanja na prva tri pri kraju i da se sprema merdzovanje radnji. Tako da cemo sacekati novi integral da bismo dali ocenu celine. Ovde mi je crtez drven, sto Jaki rece i potpuno lisen fantasticne flore poput one u Betelgezu. One skokovite veze izmedju likova su mi neobjasnjive iako nemam mindset verne osobe. Sve u svemu, neka trojka na skali od 1 do 5 ali ostajr u kolekciji. |
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sumohrvat
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kifi
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Posted - 31/10/2020 : 13:48:25
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Od ovog nisam puno očekivao, a to sam i dobio. Dobru lakočitljivu zabavu, ništa posebno, ništa spektakularno. Naravno da ostaje u kolekciji. |
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Chui
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Posted - 24/02/2021 : 19:35:17
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Danas sam baš završio Preživjele. Od sva 4 Fibrina izdanja još mi je ostao samo Antares. Moram prvo reći da mi je trebalo dosta dugo da napokon posegnem za Leovim serijalom. Razlog je crtež, kad bi listao strip u knjižari nekako mi je stalno odavao dojam nekakvih tinejđerskih SF romana i filmova kao što su Igre gladi ili Labirint ili Različita. Na kraju čak je to ali je i puno više. Leove planete su bogate maštom i idejama, s jedne strane nam bliske, a opet toliko različite. Nove junakinje će Ripley i dalje teško skinuti s trona, ali Leove heroine su definitivno među zanimljivijima. Što se tiće crteža, neki dan se sjetio Wall-Ea i kako su tamo ljudi u svemiru u budućnosti prikazani kao debeli nesposobni uopće se kretati, al s obzirom na trenutni razvoj kretanja manipulacije genetikom, pomlađivanjem i nekim nametnutim oblicima tražene ljepote, zapravo brijem da će imućniji ljudi za 30 godina baš i izgedati tako, svi mladi, lijepi, vitki, društevno poželjnog izgleda, dužeg životnog vijeka, živjet će život punim plućima, putovati i u svemir, a siromašnija raja će biti debela, kraćeg životnog vijeka nego danas, životariti na socijali, fiksirana na jefitne virtualne tehnologije iz svoje fotelje. E uglavnom dok sam skužio Aldebaran već su se rasprodali Betelgeuse i Antares pa niš od skupljanja cijelog serijala nego sam se obratio gradskim knjižnicama. Cijela serija mi je vrlo ugodno iznenađenje, sa ocjenama između 9/10 i 8/10. Preživjeli su mi možda bliže 8, dok su mi prve dvije knjige 9ka. |
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anto
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Posted - 24/02/2021 : 20:08:51
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eh Čui,malo je to za Leove integrale- da je barem jedna ocena više,bio bih puno srećniji. |
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Edited by - anto on 24/02/2021 20:09:21 |
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Chui
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Posted - 24/02/2021 : 20:31:06
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quote: Originally posted by anto
eh Čui,malo je to za Leove integrale- da je barem jedna ocena više,bio bih puno srećniji.
Oprosti al 10tku čuvam samo za remek djela bez kojih je moj život nezamisliv 9tka je isto must have, a o 8micama razmišljam o kupnji jednostavno zbog jako malog kapaciteta stana, a fakat se trudim pronaći svaku rupu na polici gdje bih mogao stinuti još koji strip  A jedina zamjerka za Preživjele ako ću baš picajzlirati jesu te ljubavne afere koje vuku strip na teen vode |
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Red Marquis
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Posted - 24/02/2021 : 21:00:20
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Ne slušaj ga Chui. Njegove ocene stripova idu od odlično do genijalno. Mada, Aldebaran si mogao barem za 0,5 podebljati za koliko je bolji od Betelgeza  |
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Chui
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Posted - 24/02/2021 : 21:32:38
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quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis
Ne slušaj ga Chui. Njegove ocene stripova idu od odlično do genijalno. Mada, Aldebaran si mogao barem za 0,5 podebljati za koliko je bolji od Betelgeza 
Eh ma ta dva sam čitao još prije korone, prošlo je preko godinu dana, pa su mi te nijanse isparile iz sjećanja, al definitivno je ostao dojam vrlo ugodnog iznenađenja i odličnog iskustva za obje knjige. |
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anto
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Posted - 24/02/2021 : 23:20:12
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quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis
Ne slušaj ga Chui. Njegove ocene stripova idu od odlično do genijalno. Mada, Aldebaran si mogao barem za 0,5 podebljati za koliko je bolji od Betelgeza 
lalo ne prduckaj;ti ćeš da mi kažeš kako ću da ocenjujem stripove.
i ne treba ništa da podebljeva ocenu za Aldebaran;jednako je Betelgez fenomenalan kao i prvi ciklus.
@čui slažem se sve čui,ali vidim da si podelio prilično desetki već,zašto ne bi i ovom sjajnom serijalu dao maksimalnu? |
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Chui
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Posted - 25/02/2021 : 10:36:28
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quote: Originally posted by anto
quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis
Ne slušaj ga Chui. Njegove ocene stripova idu od odlično do genijalno. Mada, Aldebaran si mogao barem za 0,5 podebljati za koliko je bolji od Betelgeza 
lalo ne prduckaj;ti ćeš da mi kažeš kako ću da ocenjujem stripove.
i ne treba ništa da podebljeva ocenu za Aldebaran;jednako je Betelgez fenomenalan kao i prvi ciklus.
@čui slažem se sve čui,ali vidim da si podelio prilično desetki već,zašto ne bi i ovom sjajnom serijalu dao maksimalnu?
Ma mislim da je to zbog crteža. Leov crtež je zbilja poseban i unikatan i to čini njegove svjetove još posebnijim i originalnijima, ima neku svoju estetiku i dizajn koji su jako lijepi kreativni i originalni. Al kad je u pitanju SF ima tu i još uzbudljivijih majstora kao što su Gimenez, Bablet, Moebius, Bilal itd. u čije crteže mogu buljiti svaki dan koliko su očaravajuči. Kod Lea mi je pak jedina zamjerka oko crteža, a možemo to i ne gledati kao zamjerku već kao još jednu posebnost, izgled lica ljudi, večina ljudi u Preživjelima npr. kao da ima isto ili vrlo slično lice, bilo da se radi o muškarcima ili ženama, jedinu značajniju razliku čine frizure i boja kose, obrve i očiju. Al s obzirom kamo se svijet razvija gdje svi koji si to mogu priuštiti imaju potrebu dorađivati svoj izgled operacijama, silikonima i šta ja znam čime da bi se približili nekom traženom obliku ljepote onda je Leo sa svojim likovima tu već doma  |
Edited by - Chui on 25/02/2021 10:37:53 |
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Red Marquis
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Serbia
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Posted - 25/02/2021 : 13:28:28
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quote: Originally posted by anto
quote: Originally posted by Red Marquis
Ne slušaj ga Chui. Njegove ocene stripova idu od odlično do genijalno. Mada, Aldebaran si mogao barem za 0,5 podebljati za koliko je bolji od Betelgeza 
lalo ne prduckaj;ti ćeš da mi kažeš kako ću da ocenjujem stripove.
Šumadinac, što se stresiraš? Niko ti ne brani da ocenjuješ kako ocenjuješ, samo nemoj spočitavati isto to drugima. |
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anto
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Manny
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Posted - 09/11/2021 : 14:20:23
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Još jedna priča iz serijala o Aldebaranu! Sumirajući utiske iz prethodna tri ciklusa (Aldebaran, Betelgeuse, Antares), Leo je isfiltrirao ključne sastojke svojih priča:
1. glavni lik mora biti junakinja, ne junak 2. junakinja mora biti vrlo zgodna, jaka i emancipovana 3. u svakom albumu mora biti seksa, u međuvremenu je neophodno da vidimo barem obznažene grudi 4. mora biti malo drame i sapunice 5. mora biti nekih neobičnih životinja, ali ne moraju baš da budu previše inventivne kao ranije 6. ok je da crtež bude statičan i da svi junaci "poziraju" tako što će se krajnje neprirodno okrenuti u pravcu autora koji ih crta 7. malo kvazi-nauke nikome neće doneti štetu
Elem, naravno da je i u Preživjelima junakinja glavna i zgodna, te da ima elemenata sapunice, kao da gledamo zbiljokaz Preživljavanje u kome su - kako to već producenti i biraju - svi akteri mladi, lepi i zgodni. Nova planeta je tek malo drugačija od Zemlje, Leo se potrudio tek toliko da prepoznamo njegov rad (predivan kolor kao i uvek), ali ne i da nas impresionira kako je to učinio na Aldebaranu ili Betelgeuseu. Ukratko, Leo poznaje svoju publiku i daje joj tačno onu esenciju kojom ih je pridobio ranije, i radi to - čini se - dosta lako i bez napora. Da ne bude greške, u tu publiku se i ja uklapam, i Preživjele sam progutao u sekundi, zadovoljan sam i onim čime nisam zadovoljan. Postoje situacije kada autori (vrlo često u muzičkom biznisu) kažu "mogli smo mi ponovo da snimimo sličan album, ali to ne bi zadovoljilo naše artističke ambicije, bla-bla-bla", well, Leo nije takav, u Preživjelima nam je dao upravo ono što smo tražili, i svaka kritika će se obiti o taj izgovor. Kad idete u bioskop da gledate novog Džejmsa Bonda, producentima bi bolje bilo da vam daju upravo ono što očekujete. Hvala Leo! |
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pcoro
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Croatia
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Posted - 12/11/2021 : 14:53:19
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Preživjeli su dobri, povratak u formu nakon lošijeg Antaresa. Za sad su mi Adelbaran i Betelgese top, Antares dosadan, Preživjeli dosta dobar i onda Povratak na Adelbaran ok. |
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Imrahil
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Posted - 05/09/2024 : 12:18:19
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Antares nisam školovao pa nemam pojma jesu li bitni za Preživjele ali meni ovi ispali sasvim ok. Leo jeste maštovit ali šteta što se nije potrudio malo više oko drugih rasa vanzemaljaca. Koliko je Mantrisa recimo genijalna toliko bezveze što su na planeti svi vanzemaljci čovekoliki. |
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Aco
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 08:45:12
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Aldebaran odličan, oba ciklusa nakon već je primjetan pad, ali Prežijveli je baš nekakav lošnjikav nastavak/intermeco. Po klasičnom receptu - skupina ljudi, čudna stvorenja (ribe slične onima na Aldebaranu), tu i tamo par scena sexa i tako sve do kraja. Fali ovdje mesa i dubine. Likovi su svi kao lutke u buticima za odjeću, drveni do bola i imaju 3 izraza lica - normalan, euforičan smijeh i euforična tuga, te očito imaju istog plastičnog kirurga jer žene imaju sve iste grudi. Mantrisa, pilula i ajmo onda brzinski na Alderbaran. Ovo mu dođe kao neki filer između ciklusa. Očito se Leovi stripovi dobro prodaju pa si može to priuštiti. |
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anto
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Peyo
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anto
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 18:17:17
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Neptun jeste lošiji,tu nema dileme. A zato hvale Belatriks!! |
Dajte nam Ralph Azhama;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)! |
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borg
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 21:55:28
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quote: Originally posted by anto
kako beše ide stavljanje nekog na ignor?
Odeš na autore, klikneš na Leo i pritisneš add to ignorelist. 
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Edited by - borg on 14/02/2025 21:57:02 |
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anto
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Serbia
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Posted - 14/02/2025 : 22:46:59
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sad ti prelistah Brodolomce i Ustanak pijuna,da vidim dal je sve ok,nego zaboravih da operem ruke posle večere (burek&co.),na par mesta sam malo umastio,ne vidi se mnogo. |
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borg
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DiSkAcH
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Posted - 26/02/2025 : 09:44:10
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Pa koliko god volim LEA i Aldebaran, toliko moram priznat da Acino sve drži vodu. ;) |
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