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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 10:07:51
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Geekovi svih zemalja, ujedinite se!
Kao što znamo, određeni deo likova iz Bonellija se dešava u istom univerzumu. A kako Ameri imaju timelineove za DC univerzum, i za Marvel Univerzum, i sve te stvari, možda bi bilo iole interesantno napraviti Bonelli univerzum timeline?
Likovi koji se, po svemu sudeći, nalaze u kontinuitetu su: Komandant Mark, Blek, Ken Parker, Zagor, Tex, Mister No, Marti, Dylan, Nathan Never i Legs. Pa bi svako mogao da se pozabavi ključnim momentima za Bonellijev univerzum iz nekog od tih stripova. Jase, npr, solidno razumem u Nathana i Dylana, prozirna senka bi mogao da se pozabavi Martijem (najeb'o ga je), Seja Mister Noom, Dado Texom, etc. Verujem da bi bilo interesantnih preklapanja. A završni projekat bi mogao i da se okači na sajt, nisam još video da toga ima na netu...
Whaddda you say?
"Well, wobble my webs and call me shaky!"
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Edited by - solar on 01/02/2016 00:01:54
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Markos
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MAGIC
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 11:34:52
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i ja djoletu drzim palceve ;-)
So many people have come and gone,Their faces fade as the years go by; Yet I still recall as I wander on,As clear as the sun in the summer sky.
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 12:10:50
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Šta, samo ja sam toliko lud da se time pozabavim? ;)
Sutra malo, sam nikada neću moći to da završim. Ti bi, nesrećo magična, mogao da pomogneš oko Zagora. ;)
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prozirna senka
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 12:41:44
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Hmmmmmm, i Doktor Misterija, i Misterija i Misterija Deveto Koleno... Djole zasto me mrzis? :))))) Anyway, I am in;)
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 12:51:42
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Nadam se da će mi uskoro stići Generazioni, pa devetog MM-a onda mogu i ja, ionako to ima više veze sa NN-om, nego sa Martijem.
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prozirna senka
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Damjan
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 13:06:57
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quote: Originally posted by Zox
Nisam bas TOLIKI geek.
No, no, ovdje si među prijateljima, možeš priznati svoj geek-izam... |
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 13:10:19
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quote: Originally posted by Zox
Nisam bas TOLIKI geek.
Tu quoque, Zox, mi fili?!
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 15:17:48
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OK, hajde da postavimo temelje, tj. da vidimo o kojim epohama govorimo.
Nastanak univerzuma
Sasvim sigurno postoji nešto iz MM-a na ovu temu.
Preistorija
Dolazak Venerabila iz budućnosti, dolazak vanzemaljaca koji donose Artifakte (MM Gigante #1), civilizacija Venerabila, dinosaurusi, Venerabili odlaze u svemir
Rajski period
Čovek evoluira, telepatija vlada, prestaje kada se izmisli pismo (MM: Agarti)
Atlantida & Mu
Uspon i pad dvaju civilizacija
Nakon pada Atlantide
Adam, stvaranje Ljudi u crnom
Vavilonija, Egipat
Opet, MM, i malko NN
Grčka i Rim
Ovde, koliko ja znam, jedva da ima ičega zanimljivog
Srednji vek
Legende iz MM, ako su vredne spomena, a mislim da nisu
17. vek
Rađa se Dylan Dog
Borba za nezavisnost
Blek i Mark, ali osim toga slabo šta zanimljivo
Divlji Zapad
Tex, Zagor, KP, plus osniva se Altrove
Kraj 19. i početak 20. veka
Doktor Misterija
II svetski rat
Mister No, Marti Misterija rođen
Pedesete
Mister No
Šezdesete
Odvaja se paralelni univerzum Gregory Huntera
Osamdesete/Devedesete
MM, DD
2000.
Odvajaju se paralelne stvarnosti Jonathana Steelea i Brendona
2024.
Velika Katastrofa, kalendar se vraća na 1946.
2091. po novom kalendaru
Nathan Never
2104.
Rat Zemlja/Kolonije
22. vek
Rat sa Tehnodroidima
2155.
Rat sa Sivima
23. vek
Vreme svemirskih putovanja
24. vek
Bratstvo senki se vraća u prošlost
25. vek
Galaktička Agenzia Alfa, ili Altrove, Marti Misterija deveto koleno
3000.
Agenzia Alfa 3000
Nekad u dalekoj budućnosti
Objedinjavanje svih sedam Graalova, i povratak na Rajski period
I tome slično.
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wiz
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 15:32:32
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zaboravio su napomenuti Dampyra, Juliu, Napoleona, Brendona i Nick Raidera ako cemo vec za sve Bonellijevce :))
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 15:37:31
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Nećemo za sve, samo za one koji su povezani, tj. u jednom univerzumu. NR i Julia još i mogu da se uklope, ali Brendon, Gregory Hunter, Gea, Dampyr i MV nikako.
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 16:09:43
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Sunce ti žarko, pa tu mi ne treba pomoć! ;)
Ionako ima svega par datuma za Dylana:
17. vek - rođenje 1978. - Dolazi u Scotland Yard, sreće sa Marti Misterijom 1984. - Izlazi iz Scotland Yarda, sreće se sa Gručom 1986. - Postaje Istraživač noćnih mora, sreće se ponovo sa Xabarasom 1990. - Deo Dylana odlazi u Zonu Sumraka 1991. - Ponovo se sreće sa Marti Misterijom 1993. - Ponovo se sreće sa Marti Misterijom 1994. - Saznaje ko je i šta je 1995. - Sreće se sa Mister Noom
I to mu dođe sve što je bitno za Dylana sa stanovišta ovog timelinea...
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 16:28:55
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Ja vam drzim palceve:-)
A ti, nemoj samo da držiš palčeve, nego odradi tih par datuma što treba iz KP!
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stinky
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 18:38:45
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djole, daj pojasni malo što ustvari misliš pod ovim bonelli timelineom drugim riječima, ne shvaćam do kraja taj projekt, što je tu cilj
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prozirna senka
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 19:13:30
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Uh, ja sam mislio da tu treba pored datuma i neki tekst, objasnjenja, svako da se dovati za nekoga junaka, pa da se napravi kompilacija. Svejedno, dacu datume.
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kiky
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 19:29:55
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Evo, priznajem da mi isto nije jasno o čemu se tu radi... šta se tu traži? Datumi kada su se razni bonelli junaci sreli medjusobno? Ili važni datumi u njihovim životima
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 19:54:44
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Pazite ovako: timeline određuje kada su se desile bitne stvari za jedan univerzum. Evo, recimo kako izgleda timeline DC Univerzuma iz Zero Houra:
15.000.000.000 years ago The Big Bang 5.000.000.000 years ago Life emerges on Earth 4.000.400.000 years ago Renegade maltusian Krona links past and future together, releasing entropy into the Universe. Guardians of the Universe Controllers 3.000.000.000 years ago Manhunters 2.500.000.000 years ago Oan race splits along gender lines; females evolve into zamarons 100.000 years ago Homo Magi Birth of Atlantis Immortal Man (Vandal Savage???) 50.000 years ago Atlantis sinks 5000 BC Dr. Mist (Nommo) 1200 BC Amazon race born Roman Empire Golden Gladiator 6th century Camelot King Arthur (Arthur, son of Uther) Merlin Etrigan (Iason Blaise, Jason Blood) Silent Knight (???) Shining Knight (Sir Justin) 964 Viking Prince Late 1700s, early 1800s Tomahawk (Tom Hawk) Uncle Sam Hawk, son of Tomahawk (n/a) Firehair (n/a) 1826 Daily Planet founded Mid- to late 1800s Bat Lash (Bartholomew Aloysius Lash) Jonah Hex (Jonah Woodson Hex) Nighthawk (Hannibal Hawkes) Don Cabballero (n/a) El Diablo (Lazarus Lane) Johnny Thunder (John Tane) Madame .44 (Jeanne Walker Tane) Trigger Twins (Walter & Wayne Trigger) Matt Savage (n/a) Scalp Hunter (Brian Savage/Ke-Woh-No-Tay) World War I Era Baloon Buster (Steven Henry Savage, Jr.) Enemy Ace (n/a) 1919 Morpheus (Dream of the Endless) imprisoned 1935 Dr. Occult 1938 The Flash (Jay Garrick) Crimson Avenger (Lee Travis) The Golden Age of Heroes begins. 1939 Green Lantern (Alan Scott) Sandman (Wesley Dodds) Steel (Henry "Hank" Heywood III) Hawkman (Carter Hall) Blackhawk (Janos Prohaska) Doll Man (Darrel Dane) Jim Corrigan becoms The Spectre 1940 Johnny Thunder (Johnny Thunder) Hourman (Rex Tyler) Atom (Alan Pratt) Dr. Fate (Kent Nelson) Scarab The Justice Society of America forms 1941 Starman (Ted Knight) Dr. Mid-Nite (Dr. Charles McNider) Fury Star-Sprangled Kid & Stripesy Shining Knight Vigliante Johnny Quick Wildcat (Ted Grant) Mr. Terrific (Terry Sloane) Liberty Belle Robotman Tarantula Sandy Firebrand 1942 Guardian (Jim Harper) & The Newsboy Legion Amazing-Man (Will Everett) TNT & Dan the Dyna-Mite Neptune Perkins Virtually all costumed heroes combine into the wartime only: All-Star Squadron (with the offshoot Young All-Stars). Armed forces in Europe include: Sgt. Rock, Easy Company, Haunted Tank, The Losers, Mlle. Marie, Unknown Soldier, Viking Commando, Blackhawks, Boy Commandos, G.I. Robot, The Ghost Patrol and Gravedigger 1947 / 47 years ago Black Canary (Diana Drake Lance) 1951 / 43 years ago The JSA disbands; end of The First Heroic Age 1959 / 35 years ago J'Onn J'Onzz accidentally teleported to Earth 1961 / 33 years ago Kal-El arrivers on Earth, near Smalville 1964 / 30 years ago Captain Comet 1969 / 25 years ago Bruce Wayne's parents (Thomas & Martha) killed by Joe Chill Project Atom begins Wonder Woman's clay form given life by the gods 1979 / 15 years ago Clark Kent leaves Smallville for Metropolis Cave Carson Sea Devils Sarge Steel Doom Patrol Animal Man (Buddy Baker) Alec Holland becomes Swamp Thing 1981 / 13 years ago Metal Men Metamorpho (Rex Mason) Challengers of the Unknown Deadman (Boston Brand) 1983 / 11 years ago Oliver Queen, stranded on desert island learns archery 1984 / 10 years ago Superman (Kal-El/Clark Kent) makes his debut, inspiring a new heroic age Batman (Bruce Wayne) The Joker Catwoman (Selina Kyle) Flash (Barry Allen) Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) J'Onn J'Onzz goes public as Manhunter from Mars Black Canary (Dinah Laurel Lance) Aquaman (Arthur Curry) Original Blue Beetle Adam Strange first teleports to Rann Katar Hol exiled on Thanagar Speedy (Roy Harper) Triumph makes his debut, then disappears Justice League of America forms 1985 / 9 years ago The Atom (Raymond "Ray" Palmer) Kid Flash (Wally West) Elogated Man (Ralph Dibny) JSA re-forms Doom Patrol "dies" Creeper (Jack Ryder) Hawk & Dove (Hank & Don Hall) New Gods reappear on Earth The Cadmus Project begins Zatanna (Zatanna Zatara) Aqualad (Garth ?) 1986 / 8 years ago Dick Grayson becomes Robin Plastic Man (Eel O'Brian) Bruce Gordon frees Eclipso Etrigan, The Demon reappears Wonder Girl (Donna Troy) Deathsroke 1987 / 7 years ago Teen Titans form Manhunter (Paul Kirk) resurrected John Stewart becoms reserve Green Lantern 1988 / 6 years ago Power Girl (Kara and/or Karen Starr) Shade the Changing Man Rose and Thorn Black Lightning (Jefferson Pierce) 1989 / 5 years ago Omega Men form Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) Ted Kord becomes Blue Beetle Blue Devil (Dan Patrick Cassidy) Fire (Beatriz Costa) Ice (Tora Olafsdotter) Captain Atom (Nathaniel C. Adam) emerges from Quantum Field New Titans form Infinity, Inc. form Firestorm (Ron Raymont and Professor Martin Stein) 1990 / 4 years ago Outsiders form Dick Grayson, (Robin) becomes Nightwing CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS Barry Allen dies: Wally West becomes the Flash Guy Gardner activated as a Green Lantern Dr. Light JSA goes to Limbo Wonder Woman (Diana Prince) comes to man's world Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) makes his public debut The Question (Charles Victor Szasz) Vigilante Nightshade (Eve Eden) 1991 / 3 years ago LEGENDS Maxwell Lord forms the "New" Justice League Jason Todd becomes Robin Barbara Gordon crippled by the Joker The Huntress (Helena Bertinelli) Suicide Squad, Checkmate formed MILLENIUM Guardians depart: Green Lantern Corps disband Controllers expand Darkstar program New Guardians Gangbuster Outsiders disband Rocket Reds form in the USSR Manhunter (Mark Shaw) Jason Todd killed by the Joker Supergirl 1992 / 2 years ago INVASION L.E.G.I.O.N. Valor (Lar Gand) Starman (Will Payton) Rip Hunter cracks the time barrier 1993 / 1 year ago Tim Drake becomes current Robin Hawkman and Hawkwoman arrive from Thanagar Guardians return; GL Corps reinstated WAR OF THE GODS The Ray (Ray Terrill) Ragman Team Titans ARMAGEDDON JSA return from limbo Thunderbolt Darkstar Colos comes to Earth Existence of the Linear Men revealed Superman killed by Doomsday 1994 / Now Superman revived Superboy Steel (John Irons) The Eradicator Jean Paul Valley becomes Azrael Speedy becomes Arsenal Parasites attack Earth: New Blood Heroes make their debut, including Anima and Gunfire Coast City destoyed Hal Jordan destroys Guardians, GL Corps and main power battery Azrael assumes the identity of the Batman Kyle Rayner becomes Green Lantern Damage (Grant Emerson(Project Telemachus)) Outsiders re-form Lex Luthor II nearly destroys Metropolis Guy Gardner becomes Warrior Donna Troy becomes a Darkstar Impulse arrive from the future ZERO HOUR Original Hourman, Atom & Dr. Mid-Nite dies; JSA retires; Triumph returns from the Void; Vril Dox' son upsurps L.E.G.I.O.N.; core group becomes R.E.B.E.L.S. Fate (Jared Stevens) Manhunter Starman (Jack Knight) Primal Force New Titans re-form under Arsenal 2456 Professor Zoom, The Reverse Flash 2458 Booster Gold (Michael Jon Carter) 30TH CENTURY The Legion of Super-Heroes The End of Time Home of the Timetrapper
Ona pruža jasniji pregled šta se kad dešavalo, i veze između likova. Jel čitaoci Zagora znaju da se Drugde, iz Hellingen je živ! u stvari pojavljuje i u Marti Misteriji (odakle je i poteklo), i u Nathan Neveru? To isto važi i za brojna poklapanja između NN i MM, a vala i Zagora, Dylana i MNo-a.
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 20:55:49
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btw, ko hoće detaljniji DC Timeline, može ga naći na sajtu koji je napravio forumaš Spectre, kako se beše zvaše, dcsvemir, ili tako nešto.
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stinky
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 21:28:17
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hm, a kako zamišljaš da se to napravi to se, recimo, može napraviti ultra detaljno, pa navesti sve situacije gdje se različiti junaci bave istim stvarima, npr. lupam bezveze, DD se bori protiv vampira, Zagor se bori protiv vampira, MM, NN itd. Kako kod toga navesti godinu? Ti si naveo 1995. DD se sreće s M.Noom (jel to misliš na Anangu ili što???), oni se uopće ni nisu sreli - pojasni ovo Dalje, takva jedna analiza bi pretpostavljala da iščitaš sve epizode i da totalno vladaš njima.
Zanimljiva je to ideja, ali kako je realizirati, na koji način...
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