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Mhejl
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 05/11/2009 : 20:09:11
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Vader89
quote: Originally posted by vope
Vejder&Mejl: Ah lijepo li je vratiti se na Dinu ponovo, samo raspravljajte i dalje a ja ću da se prisjećam...
ma bih ja, nego se mhejl nesto ucutao  
Posla preko glave!  No nema veze, eto me za vikend. |
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gregorbikupil
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Slovenia
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 15:32:06
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Ooo pa vi ste na Dune -u!!!!
Sjajno, Vaderu, sjajno si objasnio ono gore - bene geserit i Dune universum. Ali - isplati se stič do kraja serijala. Ovog što ga je tata Frank napisao. Što se dalje pisalo (sinko Brian) - ne znam. |
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zeljko
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Lord Vader89
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France
9618 Posts
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Posted - 07/11/2009 : 00:37:33
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aj, bas me interesuje necije misljenje "iz prve ruke" |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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Paka01
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Croatia
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Mhejl
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 09:47:13
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Jedan od najpametnijih ljudi koje poznajem je opisao ovaj roman kao šarmantno, zanimljivo štivo koje se prosto 'proguta' u trenutku. Kratak, ali zanimljiv roman.
Kao i obično, bio je u pravu. U romanu se govori o jednom našem imigrantu, Ljubi 'Vrapčetu' kao i o njegovom životu u 50-tim i 60-tim, do emigriranja u Švedsku. Naizgled pomalo dosadna tema, zar ne? Ali, roman je veoma dobar, ne poričem. Naracija je napisana iz prvog lica, to jest pripovjeda nam glavni junak, na pomalo ironičan, šaljiv i sarkastičan način, koji na trenutke postaje glas ogorčenog čovjeka koji se sjeća nekih od najtežih trenutaka svog život. Pisac sa nevjerovatnom lakoćom spaja ozbiljno i šaljivo, uzdižući konstrukciju jednog veoma realnog i zanimljivog života, punog iskustava. Teško je ne zavoliti glavnog junaka, koji nam bez ustezanja priznaje svoje grijehe, ne mijenjajući događaje. Mnogo je stvari obuhvaćeno ovom knjigom, od svijeta boksera (o kome ništa ne znam,priznajem), sukoba Jugoslavije i Sovjetskog saveza (iz ograničenog pogleda malog čovjeka, razumije se), pa do osjećanja imigranata i nostalgije koju osjećaju ('gastajbajter' je tako ružan izraz). Eh da, imamo i prikaz 'ekipe iz kraja' i njihovih 'afera', što je zaista simpatično. Jednom kada sam počeo da čitam knjigu nisam mogao da se zaustavim! Ali dobro, to je samo 130 stranica... Knjiga se završava na pomalo tužan način, jer glavnom junaku ostaje samo vječita nostalgija...
Pročitajte, u svakom slučaju. Malo kome će ovo biti dosadno štivo. 7/10 Evo, ne možete me oklevetati da čitam samo naučnu fantastiku. |
Edited by - Mhejl on 08/11/2009 09:53:05 |
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Mhejl
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
4066 Posts
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 09:59:00
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Vader89 nego....cesto sam se pitao....sta mislite, da li moze da se povuce paralela, da zacin zapravo predstavlja metaforu nafte jesta da nafta nema uticaja na ljudsko telo, i pojavu psihickih moci, ali je nafta najvaznija supstanca u univerzumu i onaj ko kontrolise naftu, kontrolise univerzum

Iskreno, mislim da poređenje ne odgovara. Koliko sam ja shvatio, začin izaziva moćnu zavisnost, koja se završava smrću. Znam da si to gore napisao, oprosti. Dakle, od začina bukvalno zavisi opstanak čovječanstva, jer bi bez njega ogroman broj običnih ljudi i visokih državnika umro. Sa druge strane, da nam neko uskrati naftu, da li bi se čovječanstvo našlo na ivici izumiranja? Naravno da ne bi, jer postoje i drugi izvori energije.
U suštini, razlika je u tome što nafta nema tako konačnu i fatalnu moć kao začin. |
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vope
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Montenegro
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 15:07:26
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...ili kao smo nastavili posle bombe.
Knjiga se bavi dešavanjima u maloj zajednici čudnih pojedinaca u blizini San Franciska nakon nuklearnog holokausta koji je u knjizi u potpuno drugom planu. Tu su svi elementi sličnih priča: okupljanje malih zajednica u nešto nalik državicama-komunama gdje vladaju prijeki zakoni i odnosi, robno-robna razmjena uz malu količinu pred i posleratnog novca, nemaština, mutacije... E sad tu stupa na scenu Dikovsko zapetljavanje situacije i međuodnosa u komuni i dešavaju se razne interesantne stvari. Dik se ovdje bavi ljudskom paranojom i pitanjem moći i ne-moći i ko zna još čime. Njegove knjige mi nikad nijesu jasne do kraja. |
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zeljko
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vope
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Montenegro
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vope
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Montenegro
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 18:05:20
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Jedan od najpametnijih ljudi koje poznajem je opisao ovaj roman kao šarmantno, zanimljivo štivo koje se prosto 'proguta' u trenutku. Kratak, ali zanimljiv roman.
Sjećam se da sam to pročitao u jednom dahu u srednjoj. Kanda mi se jako dopalo tad. |
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todorko
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Serbia
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 18:27:37
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quote: Originally posted by zeljko
brrr kod nas se ne moze naci taj polaris
Ima da se nađe Polaris CD na netu. Na njemu je preko 200 knjiga iz edicije Polaris kao i iz edicija Kentaur i Rune, pa ako ti nije problem da čitaš knjige na kompu obavezno ga skini sa neta. |
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Rock.Bob Rock
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Croatia
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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todorko
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Serbia
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 20:56:35
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Dragoslav Mihailović - Kad su cvetale tikve To je jedina lektira koju sam sa zadovoljstvom pročitao. Ko nije obavezno da pročita. |
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zeljko
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 21:30:05
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quote: Originally posted by todorko
quote: Originally posted by zeljko
brrr kod nas se ne moze naci taj polaris
Ima da se nađe Polaris CD na netu. Na njemu je preko 200 knjiga iz edicije Polaris kao i iz edicija Kentaur i Rune, pa ako ti nije problem da čitaš knjige na kompu obavezno ga skini sa neta.
imam to cudo vise od 10 godina  ma ja bih radije na papiru
nekako mi brze izlapi knjiga kad je čitam na ekranu |
Utabanim stazama ocaja! |
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Mhejl
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Rock.Bob Rock
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 21:47:31
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quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Dragoslav Mihailović- Kad su cvetale tikve
Šta se smiješ 
Pokušavam načiti ćirilicu već godinu dana, ali nikako da počnem   |
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Lord Vader89
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France
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 22:20:48
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Da li preporučujete 'Levu ruku tame'(Urdula le Gvin)?
svakako. samo nije urdula nego ursula
salu na stranu, videces, super je knjiga, mozda mestimicno konfuzna, ali i te kako vredna citanja. slican je slucaj kao sa Dinom, razradjen je jedan ceo svet koji je drugaciji od naseg, kao i psihologija jedne vrste koja je u maloj, ali veoma bitnoj meri, razlicita od ljudske. ;) |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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Mhejl
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 22:27:27
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Vader89
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Da li preporučujete 'Levu ruku tame'(Urdula le Gvin)?
svakako. samo nije urdula nego ursula
salu na stranu, videces, super je knjiga, mozda mestimicno konfuzna, ali i te kako vredna citanja. slican je slucaj kao sa Dinom, razradjen je jedan ceo svet koji je drugaciji od naseg, kao i psihologija jedne vrste koja je u maloj, ali veoma bitnoj meri, razlicita od ljudske. ;)
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zeljko
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 22:59:55
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Da li preporučujete 'Levu ruku tame'(Urdula le Gvin)?
od ursule sve sto ti padne pod ruku citaj |
Utabanim stazama ocaja! |
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Lord Vader89
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France
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 23:11:11
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
quote: Originally posted by Lord Vader89
quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
Da li preporučujete 'Levu ruku tame'(Urdula le Gvin)?
svakako. samo nije urdula nego ursula
salu na stranu, videces, super je knjiga, mozda mestimicno konfuzna, ali i te kako vredna citanja. slican je slucaj kao sa Dinom, razradjen je jedan ceo svet koji je drugaciji od naseg, kao i psihologija jedne vrste koja je u maloj, ali veoma bitnoj meri, razlicita od ljudske. ;)
Dosta više, ne spojleraj. 
Frenk Herbert o Levoj ruci tame: "Ono sto me je opcinilo je kvalitet pripovedanja. Uplela je mitologiju i psihologiju u celokupno kreativno okruzenje i od toga satkala dragulj od price."
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Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku: Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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gregorbikupil
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Slovenia
428 Posts
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Posted - 09/11/2009 : 12:12:24
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A jeste li probali Dana Simmonsa? Hyperion, Pad Hyperiona (prvi i drugi dio)?
Evo, pročitao sam more fantastike, i to ne malo more, i da me netko ko je čitao Dinu pita za preporuku, prvo mi to pada na pamet.
A ima još toga da se pročita...
Trenutno trošim: John Crowley - Daemonomania (Treči deo Aegypt tetalogije) Samuel R. Delany - Dhalgren J. R. R. Tolkien - Children of Hurin Sheri S. Tepper - poslednji dio "End of the game" trilogije H. P. Lovecraft - (Dream cycle) Dreams of terror and death. i jednu Gemmellovu  ali iza nje je prva priča o Gunslingeru Johnu Shannowu - a paše i tu i tamo nešto lagano....
A TROŠIM UZ TO I STRIPOVE!!!!!!! 
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vope
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Montenegro
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Posted - 09/11/2009 : 14:39:39
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quote: Originally posted by gregorbikupil
A jeste li probali Dana Simmonsa? Hyperion, Pad Hyperiona (prvi i drugi dio)?
Sva četiri, pa Strvinarsku utehu, pa Ilijadu i Olimp, pa Leto noći i Ukletu zimu, pa Pesme boginje Kali, pa Teror, pa Šupljeg čovjeka, pa nekoliko kratkih priča i evo je Laguna upravo izbacila Drud kojeg čekam da mi dođe pred noge... Malo li je? Inače serijal Hiperion (kompletan!) mi je nešto najbolje od SF-a uopšte. |
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todorko
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Serbia
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Posted - 09/11/2009 : 15:44:17
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Konačno sam sebe naterao da pročitam "Intervju sa vampirom" od En Rajs. Pošteno sam se namučio dok sam pročitao tu gomilu gluposti. "To je snažna, zastrašujuća priča od koje će vam se lediti krv u žilama i o kojoj ćete razmišlati dugo nakon što je pročitate."-piše na sajtu izdavača i ja se prevarih i kupih. Knjiga je živo sranje i puna je glupavog filozofiranja i nema bojazni da će vas uplašiti i lediti krv u žilama. Žestoka smaračina. I vampiri plaču - tako treba da se zove knjiga.
Posle te glupave knjige sam pročitao "Ja sam legenda" od Ričarda Metisona i mogu vam reći da je fantastična i svetlosnim godinama udaljena od holivudskog sranja sa Vilom Smitom u glavnoj ulozi. Sve preporuke.
Ako je neko pročitao "Soj" od Giljerma del Tora i Čaka Hogana nek napiše nešto. |
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