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Djole
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 Posted - 19/10/2004 : 10:07:51
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Geekovi svih zemalja, ujedinite se!
Kao što znamo, određeni deo likova iz Bonellija se dešava u istom univerzumu. A kako Ameri imaju timelineove za DC univerzum, i za Marvel Univerzum, i sve te stvari, možda bi bilo iole interesantno napraviti Bonelli univerzum timeline?
Likovi koji se, po svemu sudeći, nalaze u kontinuitetu su: Komandant Mark, Blek, Ken Parker, Zagor, Tex, Mister No, Marti, Dylan, Nathan Never i Legs. Pa bi svako mogao da se pozabavi ključnim momentima za Bonellijev univerzum iz nekog od tih stripova. Jase, npr, solidno razumem u Nathana i Dylana, prozirna senka bi mogao da se pozabavi Martijem (najeb'o ga je), Seja Mister Noom, Dado Texom, etc. Verujem da bi bilo interesantnih preklapanja. A završni projekat bi mogao i da se okači na sajt, nisam još video da toga ima na netu...
Whaddda you say?
"Well, wobble my webs and call me shaky!"
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MAGIC
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 11:34:52
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i ja djoletu drzim palceve ;-)
So many people have come and gone,Their faces fade as the years go by;
Yet I still recall as I wander on,As clear as the sun in the summer sky.
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 12:10:50
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Šta, samo ja sam toliko lud da se time pozabavim? ;)
Sutra malo, sam nikada neću moći to da završim. Ti bi, nesrećo magična, mogao da pomogneš oko Zagora. ;)
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prozirna senka
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 12:41:44
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Hmmmmmm, i Doktor Misterija, i Misterija i Misterija Deveto Koleno...
Djole zasto me mrzis?
:)))))
Anyway, I am in;)
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 12:51:42
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Nadam se da će mi uskoro stići Generazioni, pa devetog MM-a onda mogu i ja, ionako to ima više veze sa NN-om, nego sa Martijem.
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Damjan
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 13:06:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Zox
Nisam bas TOLIKI geek.
No, no, ovdje si među prijateljima, možeš priznati svoj geek-izam...  |
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 13:10:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Zox
Nisam bas TOLIKI geek.
Tu quoque, Zox, mi fili?! 
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 15:17:48
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OK, hajde da postavimo temelje, tj. da vidimo o kojim epohama govorimo.
Nastanak univerzuma
Sasvim sigurno postoji nešto iz MM-a na ovu temu.
Preistorija
Dolazak Venerabila iz budućnosti, dolazak vanzemaljaca koji donose Artifakte (MM Gigante #1), civilizacija Venerabila, dinosaurusi, Venerabili odlaze u svemir
Rajski period
Čovek evoluira, telepatija vlada, prestaje kada se izmisli pismo (MM: Agarti)
Atlantida & Mu
Uspon i pad dvaju civilizacija
Nakon pada Atlantide
Adam, stvaranje Ljudi u crnom
Vavilonija, Egipat
Opet, MM, i malko NN
Grčka i Rim
Ovde, koliko ja znam, jedva da ima ičega zanimljivog
Srednji vek
Legende iz MM, ako su vredne spomena, a mislim da nisu
17. vek
Rađa se Dylan Dog
Borba za nezavisnost
Blek i Mark, ali osim toga slabo šta zanimljivo
Divlji Zapad
Tex, Zagor, KP, plus osniva se Altrove
Kraj 19. i početak 20. veka
Doktor Misterija
II svetski rat
Mister No, Marti Misterija rođen
Pedesete
Mister No
Šezdesete
Odvaja se paralelni univerzum Gregory Huntera
Osamdesete/Devedesete
MM, DD
2000.
Odvajaju se paralelne stvarnosti Jonathana Steelea i Brendona
2024.
Velika Katastrofa, kalendar se vraća na 1946.
2091. po novom kalendaru
Nathan Never
2104.
Rat Zemlja/Kolonije
22. vek
Rat sa Tehnodroidima
2155.
Rat sa Sivima
23. vek
Vreme svemirskih putovanja
24. vek
Bratstvo senki se vraća u prošlost
25. vek
Galaktička Agenzia Alfa, ili Altrove, Marti Misterija deveto koleno
3000.
Agenzia Alfa 3000
Nekad u dalekoj budućnosti
Objedinjavanje svih sedam Graalova, i povratak na Rajski period
I tome slično.
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 15:32:32
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zaboravio su napomenuti Dampyra, Juliu, Napoleona, Brendona i Nick Raidera ako cemo vec za sve Bonellijevce :))
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 15:37:31
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Nećemo za sve, samo za one koji su povezani, tj. u jednom univerzumu. NR i Julia još i mogu da se uklope, ali Brendon, Gregory Hunter, Gea, Dampyr i MV nikako.
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 16:09:43
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Sunce ti žarko, pa tu mi ne treba pomoć! ;)
Ionako ima svega par datuma za Dylana:
17. vek - rođenje
1978. - Dolazi u Scotland Yard, sreće sa Marti Misterijom
1984. - Izlazi iz Scotland Yarda, sreće se sa Gručom
1986. - Postaje Istraživač noćnih mora, sreće se ponovo sa Xabarasom
1990. - Deo Dylana odlazi u Zonu Sumraka
1991. - Ponovo se sreće sa Marti Misterijom
1993. - Ponovo se sreće sa Marti Misterijom
1994. - Saznaje ko je i šta je
1995. - Sreće se sa Mister Noom
I to mu dođe sve što je bitno za Dylana sa stanovišta ovog timelinea...
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 16:28:55
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Originally posted by Markos
Ja vam drzim palceve:-)
A ti, nemoj samo da držiš palčeve, nego odradi tih par datuma što treba iz KP!
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 18:38:45
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djole, daj pojasni malo što ustvari misliš pod ovim bonelli timelineom
drugim riječima, ne shvaćam do kraja taj projekt, što je tu cilj
luđaci su me oduvijek voljeli...a i ja njih |
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prozirna senka
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 19:13:30
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Uh, ja sam mislio da tu treba pored datuma i neki tekst, objasnjenja, svako da se dovati za nekoga junaka, pa da se napravi kompilacija. Svejedno, dacu datume.
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 19:29:55
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Evo, priznajem da mi isto nije jasno o čemu se tu radi... šta se tu traži? Datumi kada su se razni bonelli junaci sreli medjusobno? Ili važni datumi u njihovim životima
da je pas čovjekov najbolji prijatelj, mišljenje je čovjeka, a ne psa |
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 19:54:44
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Pazite ovako: timeline određuje kada su se desile bitne stvari za jedan univerzum. Evo, recimo kako izgleda timeline DC Univerzuma iz Zero Houra:
15.000.000.000 years ago
The Big Bang
5.000.000.000 years ago
Life emerges on Earth
4.000.400.000 years ago
Renegade maltusian Krona links past and future together, releasing entropy into the Universe.
Guardians of the Universe
Controllers
3.000.000.000 years ago
Manhunters
2.500.000.000 years ago
Oan race splits along gender lines; females evolve into zamarons
100.000 years ago
Homo Magi
Birth of Atlantis
Immortal Man (Vandal Savage???)
50.000 years ago
Atlantis sinks
5000 BC
Dr. Mist (Nommo)
1200 BC
Amazon race born
Roman Empire
Golden Gladiator
6th century
Camelot
King Arthur (Arthur, son of Uther)
Merlin
Etrigan (Iason Blaise, Jason Blood)
Silent Knight (???)
Shining Knight (Sir Justin)
964
Viking Prince
Late 1700s, early 1800s
Tomahawk (Tom Hawk)
Uncle Sam
Hawk, son of Tomahawk (n/a)
Firehair (n/a)
1826
Daily Planet founded
Mid- to late 1800s
Bat Lash (Bartholomew Aloysius Lash)
Jonah Hex (Jonah Woodson Hex)
Nighthawk (Hannibal Hawkes)
Don Cabballero (n/a)
El Diablo (Lazarus Lane)
Johnny Thunder (John Tane)
Madame .44 (Jeanne Walker Tane)
Trigger Twins (Walter & Wayne Trigger)
Matt Savage (n/a)
Scalp Hunter (Brian Savage/Ke-Woh-No-Tay)
World War I Era
Baloon Buster (Steven Henry Savage, Jr.)
Enemy Ace (n/a)
1919
Morpheus (Dream of the Endless) imprisoned
1935
Dr. Occult
1938
The Flash (Jay Garrick)
Crimson Avenger (Lee Travis)
The Golden Age of Heroes begins.
1939
Green Lantern (Alan Scott)
Sandman (Wesley Dodds)
Steel (Henry "Hank" Heywood III)
Hawkman (Carter Hall)
Blackhawk (Janos Prohaska)
Doll Man (Darrel Dane)
Jim Corrigan becoms The Spectre
1940
Johnny Thunder (Johnny Thunder)
Hourman (Rex Tyler)
Atom (Alan Pratt)
Dr. Fate (Kent Nelson)
Scarab
The Justice Society of America forms
1941
Starman (Ted Knight)
Dr. Mid-Nite (Dr. Charles McNider)
Fury
Star-Sprangled Kid & Stripesy
Shining Knight
Vigliante
Johnny Quick
Wildcat (Ted Grant)
Mr. Terrific (Terry Sloane)
Liberty Belle
Robotman
Tarantula
Sandy
Firebrand
1942
Guardian (Jim Harper) & The Newsboy Legion
Amazing-Man (Will Everett)
TNT & Dan the Dyna-Mite
Neptune Perkins
Virtually all costumed heroes combine into the wartime only: All-Star Squadron (with the offshoot Young All-Stars). Armed forces in Europe include: Sgt. Rock, Easy Company, Haunted Tank, The Losers, Mlle. Marie, Unknown Soldier, Viking Commando, Blackhawks, Boy Commandos, G.I. Robot, The Ghost Patrol and Gravedigger
1947 / 47 years ago
Black Canary (Diana Drake Lance)
1951 / 43 years ago
The JSA disbands; end of The First Heroic Age
1959 / 35 years ago
J'Onn J'Onzz accidentally teleported to Earth
1961 / 33 years ago
Kal-El arrivers on Earth, near Smalville
1964 / 30 years ago
Captain Comet
1969 / 25 years ago
Bruce Wayne's parents (Thomas & Martha) killed by Joe Chill
Project Atom begins
Wonder Woman's clay form given life by the gods
1979 / 15 years ago
Clark Kent leaves Smallville for Metropolis
Cave Carson
Sea Devils
Sarge Steel
Doom Patrol
Animal Man (Buddy Baker)
Alec Holland becomes Swamp Thing
1981 / 13 years ago
Metal Men
Metamorpho (Rex Mason)
Challengers of the Unknown
Deadman (Boston Brand)
1983 / 11 years ago
Oliver Queen, stranded on desert island learns archery
1984 / 10 years ago
Superman (Kal-El/Clark Kent) makes his debut, inspiring a new heroic age
Batman (Bruce Wayne)
The Joker
Catwoman (Selina Kyle)
Flash (Barry Allen)
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
J'Onn J'Onzz goes public as Manhunter from Mars
Black Canary (Dinah Laurel Lance)
Aquaman (Arthur Curry)
Original Blue Beetle
Adam Strange first teleports to Rann
Katar Hol exiled on Thanagar
Speedy (Roy Harper)
Triumph makes his debut, then disappears
Justice League of America forms
1985 / 9 years ago
The Atom (Raymond "Ray" Palmer)
Kid Flash (Wally West)
Elogated Man (Ralph Dibny)
JSA re-forms
Doom Patrol "dies"
Creeper (Jack Ryder)
Hawk & Dove (Hank & Don Hall)
New Gods reappear on Earth
The Cadmus Project begins
Zatanna (Zatanna Zatara)
Aqualad (Garth ?)
1986 / 8 years ago
Dick Grayson becomes Robin
Plastic Man (Eel O'Brian)
Bruce Gordon frees Eclipso
Etrigan, The Demon reappears
Wonder Girl (Donna Troy)
Deathsroke
1987 / 7 years ago
Teen Titans form
Manhunter (Paul Kirk) resurrected
John Stewart becoms reserve Green Lantern
1988 / 6 years ago
Power Girl (Kara and/or Karen Starr)
Shade the Changing Man
Rose and Thorn
Black Lightning (Jefferson Pierce)
1989 / 5 years ago
Omega Men form
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)
Ted Kord becomes Blue Beetle
Blue Devil (Dan Patrick Cassidy)
Fire (Beatriz Costa)
Ice (Tora Olafsdotter)
Captain Atom (Nathaniel C. Adam) emerges from Quantum Field
New Titans form
Infinity, Inc. form
Firestorm (Ron Raymont and Professor Martin Stein)
1990 / 4 years ago
Outsiders form
Dick Grayson, (Robin) becomes Nightwing
CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS
Barry Allen dies: Wally West becomes the Flash
Guy Gardner activated as a Green Lantern
Dr. Light
JSA goes to Limbo
Wonder Woman (Diana Prince) comes to man's world
Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) makes his public debut
The Question (Charles Victor Szasz)
Vigilante
Nightshade (Eve Eden)
1991 / 3 years ago
LEGENDS
Maxwell Lord forms the "New" Justice League
Jason Todd becomes Robin
Barbara Gordon crippled by the Joker
The Huntress (Helena Bertinelli)
Suicide Squad, Checkmate formed
MILLENIUM
Guardians depart: Green Lantern Corps disband
Controllers expand Darkstar program
New Guardians
Gangbuster
Outsiders disband
Rocket Reds form in the USSR
Manhunter (Mark Shaw)
Jason Todd killed by the Joker
Supergirl
1992 / 2 years ago
INVASION
L.E.G.I.O.N.
Valor (Lar Gand)
Starman (Will Payton)
Rip Hunter cracks the time barrier
1993 / 1 year ago
Tim Drake becomes current Robin
Hawkman and Hawkwoman arrive from Thanagar
Guardians return; GL Corps reinstated
WAR OF THE GODS
The Ray (Ray Terrill)
Ragman
Team Titans
ARMAGEDDON
JSA return from limbo
Thunderbolt
Darkstar Colos comes to Earth
Existence of the Linear Men revealed
Superman killed by Doomsday
1994 / Now
Superman revived
Superboy
Steel (John Irons)
The Eradicator
Jean Paul Valley becomes Azrael
Speedy becomes Arsenal
Parasites attack Earth: New Blood Heroes make their debut, including Anima and Gunfire
Coast City destoyed
Hal Jordan destroys Guardians, GL Corps and main power battery
Azrael assumes the identity of the Batman
Kyle Rayner becomes Green Lantern
Damage (Grant Emerson(Project Telemachus))
Outsiders re-form
Lex Luthor II nearly destroys Metropolis
Guy Gardner becomes Warrior
Donna Troy becomes a Darkstar
Impulse arrive from the future
ZERO HOUR
Original Hourman, Atom & Dr. Mid-Nite dies; JSA retires; Triumph returns from the Void; Vril Dox' son upsurps L.E.G.I.O.N.; core group becomes R.E.B.E.L.S.
Fate (Jared Stevens)
Manhunter
Starman (Jack Knight)
Primal Force
New Titans re-form under Arsenal
2456
Professor Zoom, The Reverse Flash
2458
Booster Gold (Michael Jon Carter)
30TH CENTURY
The Legion of Super-Heroes
The End of Time
Home of the Timetrapper
Ona pruža jasniji pregled šta se kad dešavalo, i veze između likova. Jel čitaoci Zagora znaju da se Drugde, iz Hellingen je živ! u stvari pojavljuje i u Marti Misteriji (odakle je i poteklo), i u Nathan Neveru? To isto važi i za brojna poklapanja između NN i MM, a vala i Zagora, Dylana i MNo-a.
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Djole
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 20:55:49
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btw, ko hoće detaljniji DC Timeline, može ga naći na sajtu koji je napravio forumaš Spectre, kako se beše zvaše, dcsvemir, ili tako nešto.
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stinky
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Posted - 19/10/2004 : 21:28:17
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hm, a kako zamišljaš da se to napravi
to se, recimo, može napraviti ultra detaljno, pa navesti sve situacije gdje se različiti junaci bave istim stvarima, npr. lupam bezveze, DD se bori protiv vampira, Zagor se bori protiv vampira, MM, NN itd. Kako kod toga navesti godinu? Ti si naveo 1995. DD se sreće s M.Noom (jel to misliš na Anangu ili što???), oni se uopće ni nisu sreli - pojasni ovo
Dalje, takva jedna analiza bi pretpostavljala da iščitaš sve epizode i da totalno vladaš njima.
Zanimljiva je to ideja, ali kako je realizirati, na koji način...
luđaci su me oduvijek voljeli...a i ja njih |
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