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kasper
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 11:18:09
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quote: Originally posted by teller I dok se Zagor u Italiji dobro prodaje zahvaljujuči kao i kod nas najviše nostalgiji i manje kvalitetnim pričama, zašto ubijati i tu nostalgiju?Ko garantira kad se ubije nostalgija(Ferrijev stil)i poboljša scenarij veču prodaju?
Kakvo je ovo lupetanje, bre, bre dokle... evo dokle sada pitam? Vi koji se ovde slovite za nostalgicare.. malo razuma, logike... ili nemojte nista pisati... ili ako morate, evo napisite makar jednom da moje oci ne gledaju take gluposti svaki dan. Od Vas nostalgicara nista ne zavisi... aposlutno nista. Nebitni ste za tiraz, cak sta vise otvoreno slavite malodusnost, aljkavost, besmisao. Zbog cega? Zagor je pao sa tirazom u Tonillijevo vreme (kojeg ovde naravno mnogi slave) i da se nesto tu pametno nije desilo ode on u tri lepe. Gde je tada bila ta trula Nostalgicarska koalicija? Povezite sada to vreme i ovo vreme i eto... nije tesko zastia. Mora ostro.... mora.... |
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kasper
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bubo
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 12:28:58
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della monica trebna da preuzme ili ti nasljedi ferrija niko drugi trenutno nije na toj razini što zbog sporosti što zbog lošeg crtanja,monica ima svoj stil,ne kopira ,brzo crta a zagor ne odstupa puno od orginala tako da vjerujem da će on biti taj koji će preuzeti naslovnice.. |
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teller
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 13:25:44
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nostalgičari nebitni za tiraž?Veču glupost nisam čuo, evo ja ti garantiram da Zagora,Bleka i Marka 50% ili više uzimaju oni koji su ga čitali za vrijeme Dnevnika.Malo je nekih novih klinca, bar ja jih u svome okruženju ne vidim.Pa ti tiražu 8-9000 primjeraka oduzmi iste te kolekcijonare ili nostalgičare,koji strip ili ne pročitaju ili samo stave na policu,dobijaš nekih 4000 tiraža sa kojim se strip i ne izplati izdavati(čak ni tiskati) jer bi se ga prodalo nekih 1000 komada.To je primer recimo za Ludens,sumljam da je kod VČ drugačije. I onda su nostalgičari nebitni?Zašto bi u Italiji bilo drugčije? Ja sam siguran, da kad se traži i razmišlja o Ferrijevom nasljedniku traži(osobito)za naslovnice neki crtać sličnog stila.Može se to nekome dopasti ili ne...meni osobno se sviđa,ako i kad se Ferri povuče, ja bi da naslovnice imaju njegov šmek.Ako se traže takvi crtači Nucio i Verni so tome najbliži...dopalo se to nekome ili ne. I prestanite lupetati o nekim indigama, to više i ne postoji, pa nismo u 20 stolječu da takvi vrstni crtači precrtavaju Ferrija.Pitajte Sandu da li kopira Laurentija, dečko ima sijajan crtež koji vuče na Laurentija pa zato nije kopirant. A ako se i uče od Ferrija,šta je tu loše?Dao Bog da budu tako uspješni ko Ferri. Toliko.Lupam ali kad se več lupa..... |
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kasper
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 13:26:31
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quote: Originally posted by bubo
della monica trebna da preuzme ili ti nasljedi ferrija niko drugi trenutno nije na toj razini što zbog sporosti što zbog lošeg crtanja,monica ima svoj stil,ne kopira ,brzo crta a zagor ne odstupa puno od orginala tako da vjerujem da će on biti taj koji će preuzeti naslovnice..
Pa to i jeste problem... izgleda da ga nema vishe... a crno, a crno.... |
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kasper
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 13:33:58
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@teller Za Italiju su nebitni nostalgicari. Ovde su bitni. I to je to. Ako serijal krene sa prokenjava stici ce ga zasluzena, postena kazna (MN, a evo sada i MM i MV). Ferri je velika, jedini, takav se vishe nece roditi. I ne treba, eto tu je razlika u gledisitima. Oko kopiranata sve sta treba rekao je Mhejl. Sve, vala nijedne reci tu vishe ne treba reci... to je sustina, centar, smisao. Servirace nam sve gore i gore price pokrivene Vernijem i Nuccom... voleo bih da je drugacije. |
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teller
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 13:38:51
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dobro, vrijeme če pokazat koji crtaći če obilježit Zagorovu eru poslje Ferrija. Sačekat čemo!Pozdrav kasperu, sve ok. |
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kasper
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 13:42:40
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quote: Originally posted by teller
dobro, vrijeme če pokazat koji crtaći če obilježit Zagorovu eru poslje Ferrija. Sačekat čemo!Pozdrav kasperu, sve ok.
Oki doki . Samo je ocigledno da ce ostati Nucco, Verni. Ne znam koga ce jos biti. Opet podvlacim nije u njima problem... BURE  |
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karven
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 14:41:22
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quote: Originally posted by ---dp---
quote: Originally posted by karven
quote: Originally posted by ---dp---
Da su Bignotti i Toricelli mogli da kopiraju Ferrija kao Nuccio, oni bi to uradili, ali nisu mogli.
ti to ozbiljno ili...? Jel stvarno mislis da crtaci po ceo dan gledaju Ferrijeve table, pokusavaju da ih kopiraju i stipkaju se za bradavice?? Par plagijatora bez svog stila i licnog pecata skidaju Ferijeve poteze jer nemaju svoje, a pravi talentovani crtaci napustaju Zagora jer ne zele da ih pamte kao indigo papir, a osnovna mana Zagor fanova je da misle da je Feri centar sveta. E pa majstor ce pre ili kasnije umreti (cista biologija), a stvarno vam zelim da vam ostanu ove kopir masine i niko drugi,jer tako zelite.
Sta pricas bre? Ko spominje druge crtace, kazem za Toricellija i Bignotija u slucaju crtanja Zagora. Kome nije ocigledno da su kopirali Ferrija onda je taj slep. Cim se spomene Ferri, onda zagoromrsci misle da oni koji o njemu pisu afirmativno ne citaju nista osim Zagora. Svasta. Citaj pazljivije i nemoj izvlaciti zakljucke bez osnova
ja spominjem druge crtace, a i njih dvojicu, jer mozda me hvata slepilo ali njuh me sluzi i mogu da nanjusim gluposti. bolje ti citaj pazljivije. Uostalom, rekoh sta sam hteo, slazem se sa kasperom, i Bignoti i Toricelli su renesansni umetnici za ova dva neinventivna crtaca, a kada bi nostalgija bila odlucujuca u Italiji onda bi naslovne Texa skrabao neki slabi imitator Galepa. Toliko |
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teller
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 14:41:46
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stvarno je dobro...tako ču ja zezat decu kad se zagrebu za moju strip kolekciju. odlični spotovi! |
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Bruce Springsteen
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 15:22:14
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quote: Originally posted by kasper
Zagor je pao sa tirazom u Tonillijevo vreme (kojeg ovde naravno mnogi slave) i da se nesto tu pametno nije desilo ode on u tri lepe.
 Zar opet Ne mislim u vezi tiraža, činjenica je ta da je pao tiraž, ali je pao i svim ostalim serijalima! Mislim na ponovno prozivanje Toninellia, čovek stvarno nije to zaslužio jer je napisao nekoliko priča za sva vremena   |
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Bruce Springsteen
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 15:23:53
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quote: Originally posted by kasper
Bignotti je za Verinija doktor nauka.
Ovde ima istine, ako ne doktor, bar magistar Bignotti je u nekim stvarima bolji i od samog Ferria |
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kasper
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 15:31:04
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quote: Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen
 Zar opet Ne mislim u vezi tiraža, činjenica je ta da je pao tiraž, ali je pao i svim ostalim serijalima! Mislim na ponovno prozivanje Toninellia, čovek stvarno nije to zaslužio jer je napisao nekoliko priča za sva vremena  
Ja sam svima duzan razloge zasto sam protiv njega. Nesto sam obzaninio, veci deo nisam. I to ce nadam se skoro. Kako ga neki stalno spominju ko sveca, tako i ja oposite . No, ne bih ga meto u pricu oko svega, da to nije bilo u funkciji odgovora . On je pecat, zig, primer da sve moze da ode nadole iako je radio je Ferrijem i Donatellijem. A i primer je da se posle potopa moze ispraviti situacija. Pogledaj par porukica iznad moje. To sto je radio par odlicnih prica ga ne pere, niko, ali niko ne sme da dobije veciti kraljevski status za zalaganje na pocetku, a onda da ga posle (visegodisnji period) boli patka. |
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kasper
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 15:32:58
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quote: Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen
quote: Originally posted by kasper
Bignotti je za Verinija doktor nauka.
Ovde ima istine, ako ne doktor, bar magistar Bignotti je u nekim stvarima bolji i od samog Ferria
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Bruce Springsteen
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 15:42:39
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quote: Originally posted by kasper
quote: Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen
quote: Originally posted by kasper
Bignotti je za Verinija doktor nauka.
Ovde ima istine, ako ne doktor, bar magistar Bignotti je u nekim stvarima bolji i od samog Ferria
Pa kako sada to? 
Pa recimo iskazao se na mnogim drugim serijalima A najviše na M.Nou, gde je za razliku od Ferria koji je kreator lika M.Noa (mada je kasnije na neki način to preuzeo Diso) napravio od njega bledu kopiju mršavog Zagora Dok će Bignotti ostati upamćen kao najbolji crtač M.Noa zajedno sa Disom |
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Kit Carson
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King Warrior
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 18:22:13
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quote: Originally posted by teller
poslje svih tih razprava, sreča samo da o naslednjiku Ferrija nečemo mi odlućivat.... več netko....pa nadam se.....pametniji.
tako je majstore |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 18:27:08
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quote: Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen
quote: Originally posted by kasper
quote: Originally posted by Bruce Springsteen
quote: Originally posted by kasper
Bignotti je za Verinija doktor nauka.
Ovde ima istine, ako ne doktor, bar magistar Bignotti je u nekim stvarima bolji i od samog Ferria
Pa kako sada to? 
Pa recimo iskazao se na mnogim drugim serijalima A najviše na M.Nou, gde je za razliku od Ferria koji je kreator lika M.Noa (mada je kasnije na neki način to preuzeo Diso) napravio od njega bledu kopiju mršavog Zagora Dok će Bignotti ostati upamćen kao najbolji crtač M.Noa zajedno sa Disom
uf, dobro je pa si sada ovo objasnio. Vec sam poslije prvog posta mislio da predlozim savjetu GUZa (gospodarsko udruzenje zagorovaca) da ti oduzmu titulu dr. zagorologa
kao i uvijek, i ovdje si 100% u pravu |
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Kit Carson
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 18:37:16
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quote: Originally posted by teller
poslje svih tih razprava, sreča samo da o naslednjiku Ferrija nečemo mi odlućivat.... več netko....pa nadam se.....pametniji.
E, ako si mislio na mene, ja stvarno nemam vremena.   |
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Posted - 20/11/2009 : 18:46:37
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quote: Originally posted by Kit Carson
quote: Originally posted by teller
poslje svih tih razprava, sreča samo da o naslednjiku Ferrija nečemo mi odlućivat.... več netko....pa nadam se.....pametniji.
E, ako si mislio na mene, ja stvarno nemam vremena.  
Odavno ti ja pricam da nemas jos mnogo |
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