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ivanl
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 15:15:37
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Ne znam zašto misliš da ja to mislim. Činjenica je da je prošlo više od mjesec dana, a oduševljenja kakvo je vladalo u vrijeme izlaska nema. Očito su se Ivanl i ivanl-ovski likovi zadovoljili kupovinom i odlaganjem na policu, da se mogu diviti izdanju.
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ivanl
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 15:16:25
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quote: Originally posted by logo111
Valterova dnevna doza Marxa i Engelsa.... 
Daj nemoj tako...samo je preskoćena terapija... |
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DiSkAcH
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 20:09:30
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Pa iskreno ni ja ne znam za hrpu filmova/serija/animea reći točno zašto mi se sviđaju, samo znam da su mi dobro sjeli. Neki sada specifičan razlog ne znam, a nisam ih platio, tako da Valterova tvrdnja baš i ne stoji. Stripove namjerno ne spominjem jer većinu kupujem (pa bi onda po Valteru to bilo samo za slaganje na police), ali čitam i skenove. Eto toliko od mene, ne mislim se borit jer znam da je uzaludno. ;) |
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vice
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 20:22:17
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quote: Originally posted by DiSkAcH
Pa iskreno ni ja ne znam za hrpu filmova/serija/animea reći točno zašto mi se sviđaju, samo znam da su mi dobro sjeli. Neki sada specifičan razlog ne znam, a nisam ih platio, tako da Valterova tvrdnja baš i ne stoji. Stripove namjerno ne spominjem jer većinu kupujem (pa bi onda po Valteru to bilo samo za slaganje na police), ali čitam i skenove. Eto toliko od mene, ne mislim se borit jer znam da je uzaludno. ;)
Šta onda ne pročitaš Out il Badboys, otvorija san i poseban Discord server u kojem su svi radovi prevoditelja (a i on je tamo), istog onog koji je preveja Crows, Worst i QP.
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velka031
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Posted - 23/12/2018 : 21:19:20
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Ne znam zašto misliš da ja to mislim. Činjenica je da je prošlo više od mjesec dana, a oduševljenja kakvo je vladalo u vrijeme izlaska nema. Očito su se Ivanl i ivanl-ovski likovi zadovoljili kupovinom i odlaganjem na policu, da se mogu diviti izdanju.
Možda si u pravu, a možda i malo previše forsiraš tu tvrdnju. Ja sam.od Libellusa odustao, a sa čitanjem krećem kada nabavim prvu knjigu od Veselog, jer ostale imam....Nulti broj mi je dao putokaz da je to nešto što me neće oduševiti, prije svega jer ne volim fantasy općenito, ali ne mora značiti, vidjet ćemo dalje, likovi su dobri, malo je preobiman uvod u taj svijet, podsjetilo me na Silmarillion... Crtež je očekivano odličan. |
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ivanl
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Posted - 24/12/2018 : 02:37:41
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Dogodine, na prvom izboru za Doktora dragonerologa, predviđam mrtvu utrku između Ivanl-a i Supermarka.
Nikakve mrtve trke i dvojbe nema za izbor Dr.degenorologa. |
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solar
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VALTER
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Posted - 25/12/2018 : 10:12:40
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'Očnjaci i čelik' (6.), epizoda u kojoj Gmor pada u ruke organizatora ilegalnih borbi, pa je prisiljen ogledati se s divom Mrrcynom ( ), zasad je najslabija od svih dosad pročitanih (iako se nastavlja u priči 'U Zefirovom kraljevstvu'). Ali, čitajući ju, na pamet mi je pao jedan donekle sličan serijal (ima mača i magije, ali i finog humora, mudrosti i prave srednjovjekovne (japanske) povijesti) - Usagi Yojimbo. Stripčina, i to ne samo u usporedbi s ovom konfekcijom. Ali, nije razvikan poput Dragonera, valjda zato što ipak ne košta grdne pare. |
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risbozg
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Posted - 25/12/2018 : 10:20:31
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pa nije ni Usagi besplatan..čitaj dalje pa nam piši svoje dojmove bez obzira kaj košta... |
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Posted - 25/12/2018 : 22:33:17
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quote: Originally posted by supermark
Vjerojatno je Libellus odlucio pratiti formatom ostala Dragonera izdanja
Da, tako im je jednostavnije ali doživljaj priče u većem formatu je ipak drugačiji. |
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Posted - 25/12/2018 : 22:34:29
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
'Očnjaci i čelik' (6.), epizoda u kojoj Gmor pada u ruke organizatora ilegalnih borbi, pa je prisiljen ogledati se s divom Mrrcynom ( ), zasad je najslabija od svih dosad pročitanih (iako se nastavlja u priči 'U Zefirovom kraljevstvu'). Ali, čitajući ju, na pamet mi je pao jedan donekle sličan serijal (ima mača i magije, ali i finog humora, mudrosti i prave srednjovjekovne (japanske) povijesti) - Usagi Yojimbo. Stripčina, i to ne samo u usporedbi s ovom konfekcijom. Ali, nije razvikan poput Dragonera...
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solar
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Posted - 25/12/2018 : 22:41:50
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Ni meni epizode 6-8 nisu ništa posebno, btw podsjećam svekoliko pučanstvo da postoji i recenzija:
https://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/dragonero-drgn-vcki-2b-c-u-zehfirovom-kraljevstvu/2150/
quote: Originally posted by solar
#6 - "Zanne e acciaio"
Tematika serijala jest pomalo egzotična ali ova priča je urađena kao najtipičniji Bonelli. Ideje u svijetu ograničenom samo maštom mogu biti super zanimljive, ali to ovdje nije slučaj.
spojleri: Gmorova otmica od strane nekog mutnog tipa s čudnim moćima i Janovi pokušaji da ga oslobodi - to je otprilike to. Scenarij je dosadnjikav ponajviše zbog ogromne količine bespotrebnog prepričavanja. Ona ženska koja putuje s Janom za sad ne služi ničemu osim da joj Jan prepriča neke stvari koje mi već znamo (početak prijateljstva s Gmorom, njegova uloga u Skautima itd.). Onda su tu ona dvojica polu-kriminalaca koji opet između sebe pričaju ono što smo prethodno vidjeli pa onda dođu do svog gospodara koji također samo govori. Na kraju svi dođu u selo pa seoski starješina priča svojoj ženi i djeci kako je Gmor uhvaćen i kako je onaj tip s kapuljačom rđav. Scenarij nema pravog ritma i cijelo vrijeme ste na neki način ispred događaja, već otprilike znate kako će se sve odigrati. Nažalost, Vietti se poslužio uhodanim, dosadnjikavim štosevima iz Bonellijeve kuhinje da bi nam servirao nešto što smo u ovom ili onom obliku već puno puta vidjeli. Nadam se da će sljedeća epizoda biti malo bolja, ali čisto sumnjam. kraj spojlera
quote: Originally posted by solar
#7 - "U Zehfirovom kraljevstvu"
Ništa se nije promijenilo na bolje u odnosu na prethodnu epizodu. Pripovijedanje je naporno i dosadnjikavo, polovicu dijaloga se može slobodno izbaciti. Eryana je bezlična a i njena motivacija, odnosno životna priča, je puna klišeja i zbog toga mi nije postala nimao dopadljivija. Struktura scenarija je na ovaj ili onaj način milijun puta ponovljena u svim mogućim "Bonelli" serijalima. Do sada je jedino prva priča od četiri nastavka bila na zadovoljavajućem nivou, ostalo je kilavo. Tješi me to što Vietti ima još jednu priču pa red dolazi na Enocha koji će, nadam se, ponuditi nešto bolje.
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VALTER
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Posted - 25/12/2018 : 23:51:25
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quote: Originally posted by ivanl
quote: Originally posted by Hercule Poirot
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Da, sad ce biti; bye bye Veseli... ja cu svoje veselce, ostaviti. Ne pitaju jesti ni piti.
Također ostavljam u nadi da će pojačati ritam.Recimo 3 izdanja godišnje bi bila dovoljna da se većina makne od L. izdanja.
Puste i nerealne sanje. Ali vise me nije briga 2% za to sto ce napraviti,(a koliko sam samo kukao da izdaju na kapaljku), jer ce Libellus slijedecu godinu biti 'svijetlosnu' godinu od Vc-a. Sa kvalitetom koju Dragonero zasluzuje. A ostali mogu sto hoce, to jest nece, bolje je reci...
Onomad nepismeno prdi kako mu je bitan što brži ritam, a onda, kad 'gušti nad guštima' konačno osvanu na polici, ni riječi o sadržaju. |
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ivanl
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VALTER
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ivanl
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Posted - 26/12/2018 : 12:03:48
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Ne znam, ali tuzno je recimo biti na ovakve dane u takvoj kozi,(a predpostavljam i inace). Ljusturi, recimo... da se nema sto drugo raditi, vec ustrajavati na uzaludnim besmislenim raspravama. Cangrizati, 'spustati', vrijedati...traziti radost i imati ispunjenje u takvim aktovima. Cudno i tuzno. Sta da ti ja kazem? Ti govoris dovoljno o sebi i za sebe. Boli te 'nika stvar' za druge, i za zajednicu u cjelini. Umjesto sto zamisljas da si na celu rulje sa vilama, i da je predvodis sa bakljom...lipo dodi sebi i trazi neke radosti...sta ja znam koje...ljudske. Ne trzaj na sve. Zajebi te kvazi/pseudo rasprave. Ne pricaj 'opsirno'... dodi sebi, dok jos imas kome. ☮ |
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VALTER
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Posted - 26/12/2018 : 12:34:32
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Meni je u mojoj kozi sasvim dobro, dapače, sretan sam čovjek, poslovno i privatno. Ali kad dođem ovdje, vidim što se piše, što ti pišeš, moram nekad reagirati. Osoba materijalističkih pogleda poput tebe ne može biti sretna, ali to nije sad bitno. Moj ti je savjet da, ako zaista čitaš stripove, probaš uživati u njima, a ne u lažnom zadovoljstvu koje ti pruža kupovina i razmetanje svojom kupovnom moći. Želim ti sretan Božić.
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ivanl
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Posted - 26/12/2018 : 13:07:13
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Zbilja i, bez zadrske, zelim i ja tebi i tvojima svako dobro! Mislim da si 'fulao' u procjeni i 'kategorizaciji' moje malenkosti, ali valjda nije bitno... Stripove ne da citam, vec iscitavam/procavam/poznajem i volim vec desetljecima. I bez lazne skromnosti, mislim da ih poznajem kao rijetko tko... Konkretno Dragonera sam vec procitao, a sad Libellusov ceka ponovo iscitavanje, kad dode na red poslje masu novih Fibri s kojima sam brzo gotov. Pa mozemo i o njemu 'procakulat' ali bez nepotrebnih 'napetosti' cak i ako dode do neslaganja. Sad idem na selo na jednu 'peku', kakve 'guste nad gustima' zelim i tebi. A popit ce se i dobrog i jakog 'crnjaka', sto ti takoder 'ponaisti' nacin zelim, bez rezerve... Zivija! |
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DiSkAcH
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Posted - 28/12/2018 : 12:15:03
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Šteta što su te naslovnice tako nekako kompjuterske, ne znam, lijepe na prvi pogled, ali kad se duže zagledam i ne izgleda toliko dobro. |
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