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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 12/12/2021 : 12:10:02
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
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Možda i znan,žive ljudi i 50 godina negdi pa ne vide, odnosno ne žele vidit neke stvari. 
Je. Triba pitat internet putnike a ne čovika koji je živija doli 20 godina.
Pa i pitaju ljude koji žive tamo ,ne pitaju mene. I to puno duže od tog tvog 20godišnjaka.
Tako je. A ako se već dva puta nisu tili odvojit valjda imaju razlog. Nije svako za imat svoju državu. Pa pogledaj nas jebote. Samo za razliku od nas koji se moramo zaduživat za krpat proračun, ovi samo jave iznos u Pariz. Ako se odvoje su budale. |
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lwood
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Posted - 12/12/2021 : 12:13:21
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
Možda i znan,žive ljudi i 50 godina negdi pa ne vide, odnosno ne žele vidit neke stvari. 
Je. Triba pitat internet putnike a ne čovika koji je živija doli 20 godina.
Pa i pitaju ljude koji žive tamo ,ne pitaju mene. I to puno duže od tog tvog 20godišnjaka.
Tako je. A ako se već dva puta nisu tili odvojit valjda imaju razlog. Nije svako za imat svoju državu. Pa pogledaj nas jebote. Samo za razliku od nas koji se moramo zaduživat za krpat proračun, ovi samo jave iznos u Pariz. Ako se odvoje su budale.
Nije u šoldima sve. A i ako odjebu vrancuze,dolaze tu kinezi s vrićama love,zato demokratama iz australije i usra titraju jajca. |
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 12/12/2021 : 12:35:05
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
Možda i znan,žive ljudi i 50 godina negdi pa ne vide, odnosno ne žele vidit neke stvari. 
Je. Triba pitat internet putnike a ne čovika koji je živija doli 20 godina.
Pa i pitaju ljude koji žive tamo ,ne pitaju mene. I to puno duže od tog tvog 20godišnjaka.
Tako je. A ako se već dva puta nisu tili odvojit valjda imaju razlog. Nije svako za imat svoju državu. Pa pogledaj nas jebote. Samo za razliku od nas koji se moramo zaduživat za krpat proračun, ovi samo jave iznos u Pariz. Ako se odvoje su budale.
Nije u šoldima sve. A i ako odjebu vrancuze,dolaze tu kinezi s vrićama love,zato demokratama iz australije i usra titraju jajca.
Ma domaći baš i nemaju tu nekakvu težnju za vlastiton državon. Njima je ako o pripadnosti pričamo bitno pleme. Dobar dio nikla koji se tamo vadi je sa plemenskih teritorija tako da plemena tamo jako dobro žive. Poglavice su izrazito bogati ljudi. Podnaslov "Zategnuti odnosi" me zaintrigira, al onda pročitaš da nisu zategnuti odnosi između domaćih i francuza, nego između velikih.
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lwood
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Posted - 12/12/2021 : 12:53:35
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
Možda i znan,žive ljudi i 50 godina negdi pa ne vide, odnosno ne žele vidit neke stvari. 
Je. Triba pitat internet putnike a ne čovika koji je živija doli 20 godina.
Pa i pitaju ljude koji žive tamo ,ne pitaju mene. I to puno duže od tog tvog 20godišnjaka.
Tako je. A ako se već dva puta nisu tili odvojit valjda imaju razlog. Nije svako za imat svoju državu. Pa pogledaj nas jebote. Samo za razliku od nas koji se moramo zaduživat za krpat proračun, ovi samo jave iznos u Pariz. Ako se odvoje su budale.
Nije u šoldima sve. A i ako odjebu vrancuze,dolaze tu kinezi s vrićama love,zato demokratama iz australije i usra titraju jajca.
Ma domaći baš i nemaju tu nekakvu težnju za vlastiton državon. Njima je ako o pripadnosti pričamo bitno pleme. Dobar dio nikla koji se tamo vadi je sa plemenskih teritorija tako da plemena tamo jako dobro žive. Poglavice su izrazito bogati ljudi. Podnaslov "Zategnuti odnosi" me zaintrigira, al onda pročitaš da nisu zategnuti odnosi između domaćih i francuza, nego između velikih.
zato jerbo svi doseljenici glasaju za Fr. Štelaju oni to , teško će proć. |
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lwood
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Posted - 12/12/2021 : 13:12:03
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by jaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTMObNK4iI
očekivano,slično rade čmarokanci u z.sahari.
Ovaj moj se vratija prije prvog referenduma jer mu se nije dalo zajebavat, a ionako se planira vratit. Ova gospođa priča o novin generacijama i mladima, tako da se možda situacija stvarno prominila u zadnjih 6-7 godina. Ali i ona kaže da oni nemaju političkog razloga za nezavisnost, nego su razlozi ekonomski. A svit je danas pun naivaca koji misle da će in promjenon vlasti bit bolje. Vidiš da kaže i da nemaju problem da budu francuzi, al da prije svega pripadaju narodima Oceanije(To ti je taj plemenski đir). |
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lwood
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GGG
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Posted - 13/12/2021 : 23:10:26
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Kanaki su bojkotom više skrivali svoje probleme i nejedinstvo, nego "pogađili" Francuze. Jednostavnije im je bilo za sada pomesti sve pod tepih, a uz to još mogu prebacivati Francuzima legitimnost referenduma. Da su izašli u punom broju i izgubili 60:40 ili možda 70:30, to bi za njihovu stvar bilo puno gore...
Problem Nove Kaledonije je odluka između podređenosti i prosperiteta sa jedne, i samostalnosti i nesigurnosti sa druge strane. Dosta im je, da malo pogledaju okolo, pa vide kako je nekima, koji su "svoj na svome (Salomonovi otoci, Fiji, PNG). A znaju znanje i Francuzi- uvjek se nađe kakvo pleme kojem je bolje uz Francuze, malo se kozmopolitski pogurne omladinu, podsjeti one na državnoj plati i penzionere...i ode referendum!
Sahrawiji su druga priča, usred osamdesetih su več pobjedili Mauritaniju i imali Marokance na koljenima, pa su se onda slizali sa Gadafijem i sami sebe pokopali. Na kraju su Marokanci sve skupa uspjeli prodati kao hladnoratni problem (a Rusa nije bilo ni blizu...)
Kad smo kod Rusa, u službu jedna od večih podmornica u posljednje vrijeme K-329 Belgorod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ieEd-wTCo
...a zanimljiv je i video u usponu i padu podmornica iz titanijuma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmUfzEnvAto |
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lwood
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 06:09:37
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A šta Kanaka ima,40 posto. Dobro uopće i postoje. Sahrawije podupire Alžir. Još uvik. |
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GGG
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 09:35:35
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
A šta Kanaka ima,40 posto. Dobro uopće i postoje. Sahrawije podupire Alžir. Još uvik.
I niko drugi. A i ta podpora je više reda radi, nego nekakav ozbiljan politički plana. U zadnjih desetak godina je Maroko vojno-tehnički preskočio Alžir za 3 dužine, pa je Polisario i sa te strane postao potpuno irelevantan kao nekakav Alžirski joker (a i sami alžirci su več davno polisariu pokupili teško oružje, kojeg su ti dobili od Gadafija).
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 10:06:08
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quote: Originally posted by GGG
Kanaki su bojkotom više skrivali svoje probleme i nejedinstvo, nego "pogađili" Francuze. Jednostavnije im je bilo za sada pomesti sve pod tepih, a uz to još mogu prebacivati Francuzima legitimnost referenduma. Da su izašli u punom broju i izgubili 60:40 ili možda 70:30, to bi za njihovu stvar bilo puno gore...
Problem Nove Kaledonije je odluka između podređenosti i prosperiteta sa jedne, i samostalnosti i nesigurnosti sa druge strane. Dosta im je, da malo pogledaju okolo, pa vide kako je nekima, koji su "svoj na svome (Salomonovi otoci, Fiji, PNG). A znaju znanje i Francuzi- uvjek se nađe kakvo pleme kojem je bolje uz Francuze, malo se kozmopolitski pogurne omladinu, podsjeti one na državnoj plati i penzionere...i ode referendum!
Joj ti zločesti francuzi... U svakon slučaju, kad zanemaiš isprazno internet filozofiranje, svodi se na to da su budale ako se odvoje. |
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 10:09:11
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Alžir i Maroko imaju gore odnose nego Srb i Hr. Ne samo zbog polisarija. Sad i zbog Izraela. |
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lwood
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 10:11:17
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by GGG
Kanaki su bojkotom više skrivali svoje probleme i nejedinstvo, nego "pogađili" Francuze. Jednostavnije im je bilo za sada pomesti sve pod tepih, a uz to još mogu prebacivati Francuzima legitimnost referenduma. Da su izašli u punom broju i izgubili 60:40 ili možda 70:30, to bi za njihovu stvar bilo puno gore...
Problem Nove Kaledonije je odluka između podređenosti i prosperiteta sa jedne, i samostalnosti i nesigurnosti sa druge strane. Dosta im je, da malo pogledaju okolo, pa vide kako je nekima, koji su "svoj na svome (Salomonovi otoci, Fiji, PNG). A znaju znanje i Francuzi- uvjek se nađe kakvo pleme kojem je bolje uz Francuze, malo se kozmopolitski pogurne omladinu, podsjeti one na državnoj plati i penzionere...i ode referendum!
Joj ti zločesti francuzi... U svakon slučaju, kad zanemaiš isprazno internet filozofiranje, svodi se na to da su budale ako se odvoje.
zašto su budale? Kužim da ste opsjednuti zapadom,ali zašto bi ljudi bili budale jerbo ih boli q za zapadne vrijednosti. |
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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 12:00:09
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by GGG
Kanaki su bojkotom više skrivali svoje probleme i nejedinstvo, nego "pogađili" Francuze. Jednostavnije im je bilo za sada pomesti sve pod tepih, a uz to još mogu prebacivati Francuzima legitimnost referenduma. Da su izašli u punom broju i izgubili 60:40 ili možda 70:30, to bi za njihovu stvar bilo puno gore...
Problem Nove Kaledonije je odluka između podređenosti i prosperiteta sa jedne, i samostalnosti i nesigurnosti sa druge strane. Dosta im je, da malo pogledaju okolo, pa vide kako je nekima, koji su "svoj na svome (Salomonovi otoci, Fiji, PNG). A znaju znanje i Francuzi- uvjek se nađe kakvo pleme kojem je bolje uz Francuze, malo se kozmopolitski pogurne omladinu, podsjeti one na državnoj plati i penzionere...i ode referendum!
Joj ti zločesti francuzi... U svakon slučaju, kad zanemaiš isprazno internet filozofiranje, svodi se na to da su budale ako se odvoje.
zašto su budale? Kužim da ste opsjednuti zapadom,ali zašto bi ljudi bili budale jerbo ih boli q za zapadne vrijednosti.
Ma koja opsjednutost zapadon? Preziren imperijaliste. Normalno da ih boli q za zapadne vrijednosti, ali ih sigurno ne boli q kad su zapadni Euri u pitanju, a njih će bit puno puno manje ako se osamostale. |
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 14:09:42
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quote: Originally posted by globinjo
lijeni dalmoši, uvatite se motike a ne tastature...
Fibra već 5 dana. Triba ubit vrime |
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 14:33:59
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quote: Originally posted by globinjo
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by globinjo
lijeni dalmoši, uvatite se motike a ne tastature...
Fibra već 5 dana. Triba ubit vrime
fibra  jel naša fibra, oli stranjska
Domaća. |
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GGG
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 15:47:54
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by GGG
Kanaki su bojkotom više skrivali svoje probleme i nejedinstvo, nego "pogađili" Francuze. Jednostavnije im je bilo za sada pomesti sve pod tepih, a uz to još mogu prebacivati Francuzima legitimnost referenduma. Da su izašli u punom broju i izgubili 60:40 ili možda 70:30, to bi za njihovu stvar bilo puno gore...
Problem Nove Kaledonije je odluka između podređenosti i prosperiteta sa jedne, i samostalnosti i nesigurnosti sa druge strane. Dosta im je, da malo pogledaju okolo, pa vide kako je nekima, koji su "svoj na svome (Salomonovi otoci, Fiji, PNG). A znaju znanje i Francuzi- uvjek se nađe kakvo pleme kojem je bolje uz Francuze, malo se kozmopolitski pogurne omladinu, podsjeti one na državnoj plati i penzionere...i ode referendum!
Joj ti zločesti francuzi... U svakon slučaju, kad zanemaiš isprazno internet filozofiranje, svodi se na to da su budale ako se odvoje.
Zašto zločesti...oni tjeraju svoju politiku, vjerojatno mekše i bolje od ostalih zemalja u sličnoj situaciji.
Nije problem toliko u odvajanju, več više u tome šta i kako če biti kasnije. Budale bi bili da se srlja u takvu budučnost bez nekakvog plana i boljeg rješenja |
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 15:56:07
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
Alžir i Maroko imaju gore odnose nego Srb i Hr. Ne samo zbog polisarija. Sad i zbog Izraela.
Istina, ali kao što kažeš, tu su stvari mnogo dugotrajnije i šire
Moja tvrdnja je bila u prvom redu, da Maroko vs. Zapadna Sahara nije isto kao Francuska vs. Nova Kaledonija |
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 16:07:07
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quote: Originally posted by GGG
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by GGG
Kanaki su bojkotom više skrivali svoje probleme i nejedinstvo, nego "pogađili" Francuze. Jednostavnije im je bilo za sada pomesti sve pod tepih, a uz to još mogu prebacivati Francuzima legitimnost referenduma. Da su izašli u punom broju i izgubili 60:40 ili možda 70:30, to bi za njihovu stvar bilo puno gore...
Problem Nove Kaledonije je odluka između podređenosti i prosperiteta sa jedne, i samostalnosti i nesigurnosti sa druge strane. Dosta im je, da malo pogledaju okolo, pa vide kako je nekima, koji su "svoj na svome (Salomonovi otoci, Fiji, PNG). A znaju znanje i Francuzi- uvjek se nađe kakvo pleme kojem je bolje uz Francuze, malo se kozmopolitski pogurne omladinu, podsjeti one na državnoj plati i penzionere...i ode referendum!
Joj ti zločesti francuzi... U svakon slučaju, kad zanemaiš isprazno internet filozofiranje, svodi se na to da su budale ako se odvoje.
Zašto zločesti...oni tjeraju svoju politiku, vjerojatno mekše i bolje od ostalih zemalja u sličnoj situaciji.
Nije problem toliko u odvajanju, več više u tome šta i kako če biti kasnije. Budale bi bili da se srlja u takvu budučnost bez nekakvog plana i boljeg rješenja
Mislim da nisi razumio moj upis. |
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Posted - 14/12/2021 : 16:32:31
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quote: Originally posted by globinjo
lijeni dalmoši, uvatite se motike a ne tastature...
kakve su ovo purgerske upadice. |
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