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night
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Serbia
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 21:59:38
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Uh procitak i ja ovo cudo. Iako su me cudno gledali u gradskom prevozu - narocito ako bi se slucajno pokazala unutrasnja strana korica al' sam za jedno 5 dana uspeo. Ovo je bre ko da sam cepao drva mesec dana. Jeste tesko i sumorno i odvratno i genijalno. Koliko fantasticnih degenerika a sto je najbolje mislim da je i danasnje drustvo bar X#179;#179;#179;#179; puta gore od tadasnjeg - s obzirom na tehnologiju i sva iskustva u "oruzanim sukobima". Trbosek (ne mogu da svarima Rasparac, jbg. ) mi je samo personifikacija svega onoga sto je oko njega. Ma gori su od njega - on je lud ali po svom izboru i naravno po blagoslovu drustva. Toliko je tmurna atmosvera, toliko tugaljiva i opora da sam par dana bio alergican na sve zivo. A crtez da je bolji verovatno (?) mi se ne bi svideo, nije nesto ali za ovakvu pricu je savrsen, samo daje notu jos veceg sivila, ako ne i crnila. Na stripu je mozda trebalo napisati "Ostavite svu nadu...". U svakom slucaju izuzetan strip i nesto najbolje sto sam citao u zadnjh par godina.Odradjen je izuzetno i svaka cast izdavacu, mozda je trebao da stavi onu trakicu za oznacavanje strane do koje si citao, jer se ovo definitivno ne moze odjednom svariti. Svaka cast. |
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nika331
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Croatia
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Nostromo
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Croatia
476 Posts
Member since 16/12/2008 |
Posted - 23/01/2009 : 23:56:47
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Pakao je došao kući :). Sada ću ga par dana samo gledati, malo držati, maziti, paziti (Darkiću!, da, došla je i Svagdanja borba u svoj novi dom) a onda odvojiti jedan lijepi vikend za totalno uživanje. |
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Raspucin
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Barbados
2411 Posts
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Posted - 29/01/2009 : 14:33:41
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Procitah ga i ja. Sta da kazem, jos sam pod utiskom. Prejak strip. Mislim da cu tak sa narednim citanjima jos vise uzivati u citavoj melodrami. Napisacu ponesto sto zapazam na prvi pogled. Crtez mi se na kraju dopao. U pocetku sam imao muke sa tim. Izgledao mi je kao da je strip crtao neki crtac koji je pomalo neizvezban i koji otaljava posao. Medjutim nije tako. Crtez je bogat detaljima i trazi paznje jednako koliko i tekst. Uopste From Hell trazi paznju. Odusevile su me pojedine scene, ali najvise ona voznja kocijom po Londonu i doktorova prica o istoriji tog grada. Te su scene vizuelno raskosne, jednako kao i epoha kojom se bave. Atmosfera stripa je vise nego mucna. Ubistva su prikazana toliko brutalno da sam na momente osecao gadjenje. Kad se ona debela okrenula da je doktor naguzi, kao da osecas smrad iz njedog dupeta i svega ostalog. Odvratno. Poslednje ubistvo je ujedno i najbrutalnije. Kakav masakar, gospode boze. Tek tada nam je Alan Mur dopustio da vidimo koliki je stepen mentalnog sloma ubice. Spordne likove sam pohvatao tek ovlas. Mur je vodio racuna da svakom da potreban karakter i u tome je uspeo. Svaki od likova je opisan filigranski precizno. Do sada sam od Alan Mura procitao Vendetu, Ligu i Nadzirace. From Hell mi se dopao, mozda i vise od nabrojanih. Ovaj mu je strip nekako najljudskiji, najrelniji. Alan Mur je veliki scenarista, mozda i jedan od najvecih, ali pracenje i citanje njegovih stripova nije jednostavna zabava. Citanje Alana Mura zahteva paznju, razmisljanje i odredjeni stepen obrazovanosti citatelja. mislim da je ono sto su uradili on i Nil Gejmen u Snedmenu, simbioza knjizevnosti i stripa. Sta reci o izdanju. Nista. To je strip izdavacke kuce Fibra i tu se nema sta dodati ni oduzeti. Veoma mi se dopalo sto razliciti stalezi u stripu razgovaraju drugacije, svidja mi se i font koji je izabran.Prevodilac i lektor su se zaista maksimalno potrudili. Fenomelna je fora nacin kako se obraca ona nakaza od coveka koju doktor obilazi. Uzgred nisam provalio njegovu ulogu u citavoj prici, ali cu je provaliti u narednim citanjima. Sve u svemu, Pakao vredi svakog dinara koji sam dao za njega. Kako cujem i prodaja izdanja je vise nego zadovoljavajuca. Trud ulozen u pripremu stripa ce se isplatiti izdavacu i to me raduje.
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GeneziS
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Western Sahara
702 Posts
Member since 14/03/2008 |
Posted - 02/02/2009 : 05:34:30
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quote: Originally posted by Raspucin
Fenomelna je fora nacin kako se obraca ona nakaza od coveka koju doktor obilazi. Uzgred nisam provalio njegovu ulogu u citavoj prici, ali cu je provaliti u narednim citanjima.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080678/
Uzet je iz genijalnog Lynchovog filma The Elephant Man. Glavnu ulogu tumači nenadjebivi Anthony Hopkins koji glumi dr. Trevisa, kojeg je Cambell nacrtao upravo onako kakav je i na filmu. Potresan film.
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Witchblade
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Croatia
2754 Posts
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Posted - 02/02/2009 : 08:42:44
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Merrick je valjda kao povijesna ličnost "uzet" iz stvarnog života, prije nego iz filma :). |
"All deaths horrible. Also inevitable. Nod. Get treat." |
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Markos
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Croatia
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mladjo
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Posted - 23/03/2009 : 15:34:50
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quote: Originally posted by SenG
Nešto što mi ne da mira: Glava 14, stranica 23. Čak ni Moore u bilješkama ne želi otkriti o čemu se ovdje radi - ima li netko kakvu teoriju?
Mislim da je to Mery sa prijestolonasljednicom. Gull je pogriješio dva puta... Sad sam tek pročital i ovak nabrzaka, muči me jedna stvar: ni Gull ni Elizabeta, nitko zaprvo ne pita di je dijete.Zašto?
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Born To Run
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901 Posts
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Posted - 26/04/2009 : 03:31:28
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Dvoumim se da li da kupim pakao. Od kupovine me odvraca to sto na pomisao na Moora mene spopada mucnina i povracanje. Watchmene nikad nisam mogao da procitam do kraja koliko su mi dosadni. Swamp thing sam ostavio jos na pocetku kad supermen dolazi da uhapsi nekog coveka biljku (gosode boze)a Vendetu sam nekako dogurao do kraja uz velike muke doduse. Ipak imam neki osecaj da vredi rizikovati sa from hell. Sta bi me posavetovali ? |
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Le Samourai
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Posted - 26/04/2009 : 03:36:07
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quote: Originally posted by Born To Run
Dvoumim se da li da kupim pakao. Od kupovine me odvraca to sto na pomisao na Moora mene spopada mucnina i povracanje. Watchmene nikad nisam mogao da procitam do kraja koliko su mi dosadni. Swamp thing sam ostavio jos na pocetku kad supermen dolazi da uhapsi nekog coveka biljku (gosode boze)a Vendetu sam nekako dogurao do kraja uz velike muke doduse. Ipak imam neki osecaj da vredi rizikovati sa from hell. Sta bi me posavetovali ?
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Born To Run
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Posted - 26/04/2009 : 03:45:39
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hvala na savetu, ali nisam to pitao
Izvinjavam se ako je moj prethodni post bio blasfemican. |
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Collector
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Serbia
338 Posts
Member since 12/06/2007 |
Posted - 26/04/2009 : 03:51:59
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quote: Originally posted by Born To Run
Dvoumim se da li da kupim pakao. Od kupovine me odvraca to sto na pomisao na Moora mene spopada mucnina i povracanje. Watchmene nikad nisam mogao da procitam do kraja koliko su mi dosadni. Swamp thing sam ostavio jos na pocetku kad supermen dolazi da uhapsi nekog coveka biljku (gosode boze)a Vendetu sam nekako dogurao do kraja uz velike muke doduse. Ipak imam neki osecaj da vredi rizikovati sa from hell. Sta bi me posavetovali ?
Posle svega što si naveo možeš i sam da izvedeš zaključak....... |
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Born To Run
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Posted - 26/04/2009 : 03:58:32
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Cini se da ste vi zakljucili kako sam ja neki nedorasli tupan koji ne razume vise od bonelija.
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Collector
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Serbia
338 Posts
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Posted - 26/04/2009 : 04:04:51
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quote: Originally posted by Born To Run
Cini se da ste vi zakljucili kako sam ja neki nedorasli tupan koji ne razume vise od bonelija.
Au...to nikako... Moj post se odnosi na to, da ako ti je ovo od navedenog mučno, sa Paklom ništa bolje nećeš proći. Ali ako si već rešio, bolje prvo pogledaj na Fibrinom sajtu par stranica preview-a pa se onda odluči...
http://www.fibra.hr/index.asp?cat=4
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Obelix
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Serbia
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Posted - 27/04/2009 : 23:52:59
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Koliko kosta Pakao u Srbiji? Sta je isplativije, naruciti od izdavaca i platiti postarinu, ili kupiti ovde? |
Teorije nam pomazu da podnesemo nepoznavanje cinjenica |
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Raspucin
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Barbados
2411 Posts
Member since 17/10/2006 |
Posted - 28/04/2009 : 00:04:02
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Strip je kako mi se cini dobrano i rasprodan. Koliko god da ga platis, Pakao ce uskoro biti suvo zlato. |
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mladjo
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Posted - 28/04/2009 : 00:13:55
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LIGHT SPOILER:
Zašto se više priče nije posvetilo djetetu? Mislim, sve se ipak vrti oko njega. Završio je kod staraca od one prostitutke i nakon toga niš. Osim, naravno, na kraju, di vidimo da su sa detetom pobegli...Bilo bi mi logičnije da, uz ubojstva prostitutki, kreće i potraga za klincem(ili curicom, ne sjećam se sad...) |
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Raspucin
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Barbados
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Posted - 28/04/2009 : 00:34:08
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Ma ko je smeo da sta kaze onoj budali? Od njega se i kraljica plasila. Ja mislim da je posle prvog ubistva doktor sasvim zaboravio cemu sva prica. Doca je poceo da kolje iz strasti. Tako ja to nesto kontam. Dete zbog toga postaje nevazno. Mozda je Mur hteo da pokaze koliku je taj covek imao moc u onom vremenu i koliko je u stvari ziveo van realnog sveta. Alan Mur ovim pravi i jednog stripovskog Kralja Lira. |
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mladjo
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mcn
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DeeCay
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Croatia
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Posted - 31/07/2009 : 11:46:36
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quote: Originally posted by Raspucin
Ma ko je smeo da sta kaze onoj budali? Od njega se i kraljica plasila. Ja mislim da je posle prvog ubistva doktor sasvim zaboravio cemu sva prica. Doca je poceo da kolje iz strasti. Tako ja to nesto kontam. Dete zbog toga postaje nevazno.
Možda ne baš strasti, već da kao teži prema ispunjenju svog životnog zadatka, smislu svojeg postojanja uopće. Ubojstva su ultimativni čin pomoć kojeg će se uzdići iznad običnih ljudi. Prije zadatka, odnosno prije stanja više svijesti/uznesenja kao da nije niti postojao kao takav. Čekao je podsvijesno od malena takvu šansu...
Nisam još pročitao do kraja strip, tek nekolicinu poglavlja, no moram reći da me je osvojio na prvu ruku. One bilješke su genijalne, u svakom slučaju. Detaljnost i dokumentiranost slučaja odrađena iznimno. Strip koji vrijedi pročitati. A onda se baciti i na ostale medije koje prikazuju pravo lice Jacka Rippera. |
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mladjo
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soulfly tribe
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mladjo
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 17:46:29
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quote: Originally posted by soulfly tribe
quote: Originally posted by mladjo
Sutra je film na prvom programu...
nije nešto film
Ma onak, gledljiv. Nekoliko stepenica ispod stripa |
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DeeCay
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 18:37:07
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Nije film ni loš sam po sebi, zapravo ja ga uopće ne bi gledao u kontekstu stripa jer s njim nema previše dodirnih točaka... Film je više kao fikcija na temu teorija Stephena Knighta, teme kojom se i Moore poslužio. U filmu mislim da uopće nema okultnog, a ne sjećam se niti da je nešto rađeno iz Gullovog aspekta. |
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