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NESVRSTANI
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Posted - 27/03/2018 : 20:23:44
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Metallica 'Kill 'Em All' Megadeth 'Rust in Peace Metallica 'Ride the Lightning Judas Priest 'Screaming for Vengeance Megadeth 'Peace Sells...But Who's Buying Slayer 'Reign in Blood Judas Priest, Painkiller Anthrax-Among the living Mercyful Fate, 'Melissa Iron Maiden Killers
NE NUŽNO OVIM REDOSLJEDOM...stavio sam maidene reda radi...oni nisu metal,nego nwobhm...ali dobro,svi ih tamo trpaju,pa ajde...i kad vidim liste da su motorhead i sabbath da je metal,dobijem ospice...ili motley crue...za izrigat...
Dobra ti je lista. Nisan zna da voliš thrash. Inače za Motorhead se slažen. Oni s metalon imaju veze otprilike isto ka Chuck Berry. Motley je glam rock ilitiga takozvani hair metal. U svakon slučaju smijurija od benda. Sabbath ipak spada u metal. Oni su ga po meni izmislili.
Šta se Maidena tiče nije mi jasno ovo šta si napisa. Kako nije metal nego NWOBHM? Meni su Maideni sinonim za heavy metal. Iron Maiden je heavy metal, ostalo su podžanrovi.
Trash sam sluša od početka devedesetih Onda sam malo stao Prošlo lito sam podivlja opet Nisam ni sabbath stavija bas zbog toga koji su mi top 5...a Di su onda zeppelini Sta su oni? Jedan dan su hard rock a drugi dan su bogovi metala skupa sa sabbathom Metal je evoluira osamdesetih Maideni koje obožavam su,skupa sa leppardom,Diamond headom,ravenom i ostalima nwobhm...od njih je krenilo ludilo po Americi...Metallica,megadeth i ostali su se ložili na nwobhm...priest je ipak Ajmo reć medju prvima Ali kad slušaš njihova prva dva albuma i robov glas Zapitam se koji qurac dižem u nebesa planta i gillana Esencija rocka Skupa s motorheadom Prvi albumi Motorheada za drkat do besvijesti Metal?kako da ne Ekipi su priest bogovi metala(jesu) Ali otkad Prominili su stilova ko kurva kondoma Sta ne znaci da ne rade dobro to sta rade Ako cemo u prapovijest metala Blue cheer Jebeni Cream Zepp sa prva dva albuma Da,sabbath je onda uvalio karu svima Sa natezanjem iomijeve gitare
Zeppelin po meni nema nikakve veze sa metalon.Rokenrol.
Potpisujen sve šta si napisa, ali moran priznat da mi i dalje nije jasno kako nešto šta je New wave of british heavy metal nije heavy metal. čak mi je i ovo"New wave" malo čudno. Koji je Old wave ako je ovo new wave? Po meni, Heavy metal do NWOBHM nije ni postoja. Haevy metal su prvi počeli svirat Maideni, Judas i Saxon. Ko bi bija old wave ako su ovi new?
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI Mene samo začudilo da nekome vjerovatno najgori Maiden album najbolji album. Pogotovo ako si bija svjedok njegovog izlaska, pa nakon šta si napamet naučija Powerslawe, Somewhre in time ili Killers doživiš onaj užas od Holy smoke, Assasin ili Bring your daughter...
Ne mislin ništa loše, samo san mora napisat šta me muči .
Ok te 3 stvari su stvarno užas ali ostatak albuma je zakon. Dosta je zajeban i taj element nostalgije ili bivanja svjedokom vremena izlaska, no u neku ruku razumijem to. Tak i ja imam sličan problem jer ne probavljam vjerojatno 90% mainstream metal albuma poslije 2000te kad je digitalizacija zvuka krenula na velika vrata.
Inače, svaka čast svima ali meni je teško odabrati 10 albuma u tako OGROMONOM i spektrovitom "univerzumu" kao što je metal. Kao što je Poli rekao- ajde da je 20 bendova, a i onda teško... |
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Posted - 28/03/2018 : 00:11:58
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quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI Mene samo začudilo da nekome vjerovatno najgori Maiden album najbolji album. Pogotovo ako si bija svjedok njegovog izlaska, pa nakon šta si napamet naučija Powerslawe, Somewhre in time ili Killers doživiš onaj užas od Holy smoke, Assasin ili Bring your daughter...
Ne mislin ništa loše, samo san mora napisat šta me muči .
Ok te 3 stvari su stvarno užas ali ostatak albuma je zakon.
A neznan... Hooks in you san se isto sitija... Na žalost Mother Russia je nakakva loša verzija Alexandar the great. Tailgunner je loši Aces high II. Sve skupa loše 2/10 I to na staru slavu.
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Originally posted by Cromwell Dosta je zajeban i taj element nostalgije ili bivanja svjedokom vremena izlaska, no u neku ruku razumijem to. Tak i ja imam sličan problem jer ne probavljam vjerojatno 90% mainstream metal albuma poslije 2000te kad je digitalizacija zvuka krenula na velika vrata.
Ima i toga sigurno, ali pogotovo sad sa vremenskon distancon od trideset godina je jasno da je sa SSOASS zlatni period bija gotov. Ovo mi je njihov najbezidejniji album.
quote: Originally posted by Cromwell Inače, svaka čast svima ali meni je teško odabrati 10 albuma u tako OGROMONOM i spektrovitom "univerzumu" kao što je metal. Kao što je Poli rekao- ajde da je 20 bendova, a i onda teško...
A meni je možda šta vrime prolazi sve lakše definirat najboljih 10. Slušalo se svega i svačega ali ovo su albumi kojima se najviše vraćan. Doduše meni je i malo lakše jer mi se spektar sastoji od Iron Maiden ka prve ljubavi, thrasha i par bendova iz prve genearcije dath metala. Šta o modernon metalu mislin dovoljno govori činjenica da je najmlađi album s moje liste star 29 godina. |
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Posted - 28/03/2018 : 07:56:11
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Mogao sam staviti još puno bendova ali to su ploče koje najviše slušam u poslednje dve godine. Znam da slušam obskurne heavy metal bendove al šta možeš :)
Jao, sam sam se sjetio na Heathen - Victims of deception ... kakav album ... ufff 
Bendovi koje si napisa uopće nisu opskurni. Manje-više sve je to nekakav HM mainstream. Mene samo začudilo da nekome vjerovatno najgori Maiden album najbolji album. Pogotovo ako si bija svjedok njegovog izlaska, pa nakon šta si napamet naučija Powerslawe, Somewhre in time ili Killers doživiš onaj užas od Holy smoke, Assasin ili Bring your daughter...
Ne mislin ništa loše, samo san mora napisat šta me muči .
Znam, znam :) ali ja sam počeo slušati Iron Maiden tek 97 godine kad mi je brat poklonil za Novu godinu Best of the beast kasetu ... a onda jedan od razloga zašto mi je No Prayer toliko dobra je to, da gotovo nikada ne igraju pjesma sa ovod albuma u živo ... vidio sam Maidene nekih 15 puta pa sam se zamorio od raznoh Troopera, Fear of the dark, Number of the beast i slično ... a po drugoj strani ovoj album mi je nešto sasvim različito od ostalog što su napravili do tada. E neću reći, da niso napravili lošijih albuma :) upravo sam nabavio na vinilu X factor, Virtual XI, Brave new world, Dance of death i a matter of life and death... jao Virtual :) ... nije loše ali ipak :) ... a bio je to prvi 'redni' album koji sam kupio. |
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Posted - 28/03/2018 : 10:13:54
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI A neznan... Hooks in you san se isto sitija... Na žalost Mother Russia je nakakva loša verzija Alexandar the great. Tailgunner je loši Aces high II. Sve skupa loše 2/10 I to na staru slavu.
Haha htio sam i ja dodati Hooks ali bi ti onda dao za pravo da je zapravo trećina albuma loša!  Ipak, Public enema, No prayer, Running silent i Mother Russia su neshvatljivo podcjenjene stvari i čini mi se da je album zbog par mekših pjesama i nedostatka centralne teme populjuvan više nego to realno zaslužuje. Vidiš meni je Tailgunner oduvijek imao neku DiAnnovsku vibru. 
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI A meni je možda šta vrime prolazi sve lakše definirat najboljih 10. Slušalo se svega i svačega ali ovo su albumi kojima se najviše vraćan. Doduše meni je i malo lakše jer mi se spektar sastoji od Iron Maiden ka prve ljubavi, thrasha i par bendova iz prve genearcije dath metala. Šta o modernon metalu mislin dovoljno govori činjenica da je najmlađi album s moje liste star 29 godina.
Znači da si prošao kristalizaciju kolekcionarskog ukusa!!?! E ali na top 10 nemaš ništa od Maidena i death metala. Di ti je npr Beneath the Remains? Keltski mraz? Itd. Vidiš da je top 10 preniska kvota. |
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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 09:41:34
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quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI A neznan... Hooks in you san se isto sitija... Na žalost Mother Russia je nakakva loša verzija Alexandar the great. Tailgunner je loši Aces high II. Sve skupa loše 2/10 I to na staru slavu.
Haha htio sam i ja dodati Hooks ali bi ti onda dao za pravo da je zapravo trećina albuma loša!  Ipak, Public enema, No prayer, Running silent i Mother Russia su neshvatljivo podcjenjene stvari i čini mi se da je album zbog par mekših pjesama i nedostatka centralne teme populjuvan više nego to realno zaslužuje. Vidiš meni je Tailgunner oduvijek imao neku DiAnnovsku vibru. 
Tailgunner mi je jedina dobra pisma sa albuma. Jedino je tema pisme već ranije prožvakana.
quote: Originally posted by Cromwell
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI A meni je možda šta vrime prolazi sve lakše definirat najboljih 10. Slušalo se svega i svačega ali ovo su albumi kojima se najviše vraćan. Doduše meni je i malo lakše jer mi se spektar sastoji od Iron Maiden ka prve ljubavi, thrasha i par bendova iz prve genearcije dath metala. Šta o modernon metalu mislin dovoljno govori činjenica da je najmlađi album s moje liste star 29 godina.
Znači da si prošao kristalizaciju kolekcionarskog ukusa!!?! E ali na top 10 nemaš ništa od Maidena i death metala. Di ti je npr Beneath the Remains? Keltski mraz? Itd. Vidiš da je top 10 preniska kvota.
Meni ti je s metalon lako. Thrash je broj jedan, od Maidena bi možda na listu moga uletit Live after death iako nije album ali je najboljle šta su ikad snimili. Niti jedan death metal album mi nije u TOP10. Da se radi nekakav TOP 20 recimo da bi u drugih 10 moga uć spomenuti Beneath the remains, Obituary Cause of death, prvi Dismember, Death Leprosy ili nešto od Pestilence. Našlo bi se mista i za Morbid tales.
Meni bi recimo puno veći problem bija kad bi mora napravit TOP10 albuma bez da se ograničin na metal. To bi tek bija čušpajz i tu neznan bi li moga napravit TOP 10. Jedan do drugoga na listi bi bili Reign in blood i Ljubav od EKV, Pixies Surfer rosa i SOD, Razdor od Majki i Voivod, Suicidal tendencies i AC/DC(Isključivo Bon Scott), ili recimo Fugazi i Megadeth. |
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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 11:05:39
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@ cromwell
...znas kad su pitali brucea dickinsona za glazbene uzore a ovaj kaze da je njegov najveci uzor peter hammill, ali da svima govori ian gillan jer mu se neda ljudima objasnjavati ko su peter hamill i van der graf.;) |
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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 13:37:39
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Number of the beast? Ajmo fanovi Kako je album dobio ime?
Je misliš na račun za popravak auta? |
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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 19:17:16
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quote: Originally posted by globinjo
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
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Number of the beast? Ajmo fanovi Kako je album dobio ime?
Je misliš na račun za popravak auta?
Ne
Bila je neka priča da je producent Martin Birch slupa auto kad je dolazija na snimanje i da je račun za popravak bija 666 funti.
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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 20:12:33
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by globinjo
quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by globinjo
Number of the beast? Ajmo fanovi Kako je album dobio ime?
Je misliš na račun za popravak auta?
Ne
Bila je neka priča da je producent Martin Birch slupa auto kad je dolazija na snimanje i da je račun za popravak bija 666 funti.
Predajen se. Odakle ime?
bruce je ima tada curu jane...a njena mater,buduća punica ga zvala i provjeravala dok je snimao album...obećao je kao da neće lokat i pravit pizdarije...zvala ga je svako malo u telefonsku govornicu nedaleko od studija...i onda bi usred snimanja doša netko i rekao brucu:it's number of the beast... |
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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 21:15:09
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Piece of time je odličan. Za Pestilence se slažen da je treći najbolji. Meni je i Consuming impulse dobar. |
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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 21:56:16
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Nagradno pitanje za milijun virtualnih kuna. Od kojega je poznatoga crtača ovo Slayer drpija?

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Posted - 29/03/2018 : 23:12:24
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Moebius has no boundaries. Hvala. Milju uplati zavodu za očnu medicinu jer očito treba nekima na ZS topiku. Što se tiče Pestilencea meni bi jedan od prva tri bio u top 10, ali koji- teško je reći. Svaki je na svoj način poseban.
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Kada su Maideni u pitanju stvarno im je loš album No Prayer for the Dying, mislim da je lošiji jedino The X Factor. Ne mogu vjerovati da čovjek ima oba na svojoj top 10 listi, ali što je tu je, o ukusima se ne raspravlja.  Imam sve njihove albume do A Matter of Life and Death originale, a ne znam jesam li The X Factor ukupno preslušao 5 puta koliko mi je bio slab. Nije problem u Bayleyu jer sam npr. Virtual XI u ono vrijeme preslušao nebrojen broj puta i puno mi je bolji nego prethodnik, valjda zato jer me za njega vežu posebne uspomene (vrtio ga satima u walkmanu dok sam odlazio u vojsku). Što se tiče najboljeg Maiden izdanja to je svakako The Number of the Beast i uvrstio bih ga u top 10 albuma izvan BM-a. Kada bih zanemario black i napravio listu od ostatka metal žanrova ona bi izgledala ovako nekako (samo kod prva 2 je poredak ispravan dok je ostatak bez nekog redoslijeda): 1. Death - Individual Thought Patterns 2. Mercenary - First Breath ------------------------------------------- Sepultura - Beneath the Remains Napalm Death - Harmony Corruption Slayer - Reign in Blood Malevolent Creation - The Fine Art of Murder Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast Kreator - Pleasure to Kill Behemoth - Thelema 6 Krisiun - Conquerors of Armageddon
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auh, cega sve ima ovde. pa ovako, po meni, sepultura - beneath the remains je thrash album sa mozda nekim elementima death metala, ali gotovo neprimetnim. sadus opet, po meni, nije thrash iako imaju dosta elemenata (upravo suprotno od sepulture). pestilence - consuming impulse je pravi primer deathrash albuma i vrhunski je; kakvih samo tu rifova ima... dok je testimony vise okrenut death metalu (iako ne potpuno). sto se benda death tice, tu mi je svaki album... ono, vrh vrhova... pre nekih mozda mesec dana sam nekoliko puta zaredom citavu diskografiju izvrteo, ne na silu, vec zato sto mi se trazilo. to sam isto probao i sa jos nekim bendovima i njihovim diskografijama, ali nije to - to. poneki album iskoci, ali cela diskografija nikako. primera radi, morbid angel koji su mi kao klincu bili bogovi, sad mogu da ispratim do formulas (i taj album mi je malo "nezgrapan"), ali dalje nemam pojma sta se zbiva. mozda je problem u albumima izdatim posle 2000. tada sam malo omasovio kolekciju pojavom mp3 formata, pa sam izgubio liniju vodilju. 80-ih na plocama, 90-ih na kasetama sta je slusano to je ostalo urezano, ovo posle je samo slusano, a u secanju nije ostalo gotovo nista. da li je u pitanju genericko rokanje koje nema bas puno smisla ili je moj mozak postao stari sundjer koji vise ne moze da upija, ne znam. |
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