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Deers
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Croatia
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Posted - 19/12/2017 : 15:18:24
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Što točno ne valja? Osim "kopiranja" kojim se osim Kjavija obilato koristio i Sclavi? Nagomilavanje scena je isto dio tog kopiranja ali smatram da kao i kod neke starije Sclavijeve to fukcionira najviše kao okvir priče koju je htio ispričati. |
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solar
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Tonto
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Posted - 19/12/2017 : 15:46:42
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Upravo tako... sclavi uvijek ima pricu koju zeli ispricati, chiaverotti nikad. On samo gomila random scene i onda na zadnjih 5-6 strana ih krene povezivati kroz gomilu dijaloga na razini osnovnoskolca po prilagodjenom programu. Tako i toliko stupidnih raspleta iz pera istog autora nikad ne vidjeh. |
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wolf
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swamp thing
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 20/12/2017 : 13:19:07
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I 39 i 48. Ne planira, zato što se zbog zabrane autora to ne smije objavljivati u pojedinačnim sveskama, samo u onim trobrojima koje izdaje VČ, Lib... |
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mpavin
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wolf
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Posted - 20/12/2017 : 17:29:35
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Opet, teško je razumjeti zašto se inzistira da te epizode idu u takvim trobrojnim izdanjima. Sad tko ne skuplja VC i Lib mora uzeti četiri knjige. Ali što je tu je. Možda se jednog dana i predomisle. |
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solar
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Tonka24
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Posted - 27/12/2017 : 23:47:44
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Da li netko ima dodatne informacije što se događa s libellusovim kolekcionarskim izdanjem Dylana? Znam da je navodno problem u Brindisiju. |
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Tonka24
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 01:25:56
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Prvi broj Dylana i odmah jako dobra priča. Tema kako i sami možemo vidjeti zombiji, a o njima se puno toga prikazalo što u knjigama,filmovima,stripovima itd. Radnja odmah započinje akcijom prikaza zombija,pitko teče i kroz trenutak kada upoznajemo prvi puta Dylana i saznajemo da voli svirati klarinet i izrađivati modele brodova. Ovdje me se posebno dojmio vic Groucha na koji sam odvalio od smijeha kojeg doslovno citiram: " Nego znate li kada opalite iz topa postoji vjerojatnost od jedan prema milijardu milijardi da će kugla ostati na mjestu a top odletjeti unatrag".  Posebno je dobar zadnji dio priče gdje sve pršti od akcije,također sam kraj je vrlo dobro napravljen gdje Sclavi ostavlja čitatelja u razmišljanju. Na kraju jako dobar posao Sclavia koji odmah ubacuje glavnog neprijatelja Dylana,doktora Xabarasa,poprilično zanimljiva i dojmljiva figura. Scenario je također jako dobar odmah u početku scene za zombijem i klijenticom Dylana,izvrsne su scene kada Dylan dolazi u selo undead i obračunava se s zmbijima. Crtež,vrlo dobar,nije mi odličan fali nešto...dobro je Stano odradio crteže zombija,dosta uvjerljivo izgledaju i budi osjećaj jeze. Slabija strana mi je kako crta Dylana. Naslovnica, nije nešto posebno ali je istinski klasik. Vrlo dobra priča,pojavljivanje Xabarasa,da bi bila vrhunska fali bolja razrada radnje u škotskom selu i bolje rješavanje problema u kući Xabarasa,ali s obzirom na godinu kada je priča napravljena ovo je dobar strip.Crtež dobar mada može i bolji ( detaljniji ). 80% Priča:8 Scenarij:8 Crtež:8 Naslovnica:8
Najava povrataka Xabarasa
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zeljko
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solar
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Barker
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Fyro Macedonia
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solar
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 20:31:37
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quote: Originally posted by Barker
Cek' malo, zar nije Marzano deportovan u Old boy za vek vekova? 😒
Da, ovo mu je prva priča za redovnu seriju nakon 2014. godine.
Nadajmo se da je to zaslužio zbog izvanredne ideje/scenarija s kojim će nas oboriti s nogu... |
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Barker
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Deers
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 20:50:35
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Kažu da je to prvi znak, predskazanje poraza zla. Kažu da je SW VIII toliko narušio mračnu silu da najvredniji i najbolji učenik Darth Vadera nema snage se boriti. Kažu da Marzano dolazi, kažu da Cavenago počinje raditi naslovnice, kažu da nova epizoda Orfana izlazi kad se pokrije stara, kažu da se Darth Rrobe se povukao u mračni zakutak Feltrinellija gdje u mraku kuje svoje konačno oružje - treću Zvjezdu smr... Treću fazu Dylana Doga. |
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solar
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 20:50:55
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quote: Originally posted by Barker
Nekako cisto sumnjam. A i prilozeme table nisu ohrabrujuce.
Toga je i mene strah, izgleda kao žešći krš. |
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solar
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 20:57:42
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quote: Originally posted by Deers
Kažu da je to prvi znak, predskazanje poraza zla. Kažu da je SW VIII toliko narušio mračnu silu da najvredniji i najbolji učenik Darth Vadera nema snage se boriti. Kažu da Marzano dolazi, kažu da Cavenago počinje raditi naslovnice, kažu da nova epizoda Orfana izlazi kad se pokrije stara, kažu da se Darth Rrobe se povukao u mračni zakutak Feltrinellija gdje u mraku kuje svoje konačno oružje - treću Zvjezdu smr... Treću fazu Dylana Doga.
Recchionijev najveći problem je što se ponaša kao razmaženo dijete.
- Dobio je Orfane pa su mu toliko dosadili da nije imao volje na vrijeme napisati predloške za ovu tekuću sezonu pa su u Bonelliju morali izmišljati neku "mid-season" pauzu kao razlog zastoja - Dobio je titulu urednika Dilana a jedino čime se bavi jest marketing, niti piše scenarije niti uređuje. "Faza tri" kasni samo zbog njega jer su svi ostali scenariji gotovi osim njegova dva-tri koja su ključna za kontinuitet - Dobio je samurajski serijal pa već četiri godine nije u stanju napisati scenarije za prvu sezonu - Dobio je 4HOODS pa ih je prepustio nekom trećem
Sad mu je napet Feltrinelli, piskaranje recenzija za filmove i glumljenje nekog geek celebritya.
Da sam na njegovom mjestu bilo bi me sram, ne znam jesi li ti pogledao one tribine sa Lucca comicsa gdje mu je u svakom videu Masiero (šaljivo) spočitavao da se uopće ne bavi pisanjem scenarija za stripove što mu je osnovni posao. Njegova je sreća što nemaju nikog boljeg pa mu sve to dopuštaju. |
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Deers
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 21:13:32
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Zapravo sam se šalio.
Nisam ga pratio u zadnje vrijeme ali vjerujem tvojim informacijama. Ne vidim neki problem sa završetkom Orfana. Orfani jedva dišu još od druge sezone, da je bilo bitno da zadnjih 6 brojeva završe u roku netko bi ih i napisao (dišu u smislu da produkcija prati tempo izlaženja) Ovo za treću fazu i Dylanove scenarije mi je stvarno čudno ali ako ti kažeš. Ostalo također. Ne mislim da su stripovi instant proizvod pa mi zato ne predstavlja problem čekanje. I jedan Bilotta koji uz Loia jedva piše jednu epizodu Planeta mrtvih također ukazuje na to da nije jednostavno toliko toka pratiti. Još je i dobro izdržao. |
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solar
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 21:20:34
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quote: Ovo za treću fazu i Dylanove scenarije mi je stvarno čudno ali ako ti kažeš.
Ne mogu se sjetiti na kojoj je tribini bilo ali Masiero je mu pred svima, onako lagano šaljivo pa ne bude previše grub, rekao da su jedini razlog kašnjenja treće faze njegovi nenapisani scenariji.
A ponavljam, takva je situacija i sa ostalim njegovim projektima. |
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 21:37:20
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quote: Originally posted by solar
Njegova je sreća što nemaju nikog boljeg pa mu sve to dopuštaju.
Kako nemaju? A Barbatova? Ona je po meni i bolji scenarista od njega i zaslužnija da vodi Dilana kao glavni urednik. Plus nije se razbacala na sve strane i druge serijale kao što je Rechionni na Orfane, Samuraje, malo Teksa, jedino što je odradila par brojeva UTa sa Roijem.
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zeljko
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 21:41:55
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quote: Originally posted by solar
quote: Originally posted by Deers
Kažu da je to prvi znak, predskazanje poraza zla. Kažu da je SW VIII toliko narušio mračnu silu da najvredniji i najbolji učenik Darth Vadera nema snage se boriti. Kažu da Marzano dolazi, kažu da Cavenago počinje raditi naslovnice, kažu da nova epizoda Orfana izlazi kad se pokrije stara, kažu da se Darth Rrobe se povukao u mračni zakutak Feltrinellija gdje u mraku kuje svoje konačno oružje - treću Zvjezdu smr... Treću fazu Dylana Doga.
Recchionijev najveći problem je što se ponaša kao razmaženo dijete.
- Dobio je Orfane pa su mu toliko dosadili da nije imao volje na vrijeme napisati predloške za ovu tekuću sezonu pa su u Bonelliju morali izmišljati neku "mid-season" pauzu kao razlog zastoja - Dobio je titulu urednika Dilana a jedino čime se bavi jest marketing, niti piše scenarije niti uređuje. "Faza tri" kasni samo zbog njega jer su svi ostali scenariji gotovi osim njegova dva-tri koja su ključna za kontinuitet - Dobio je samurajski serijal pa već četiri godine nije u stanju napisati scenarije za prvu sezonu - Dobio je 4HOODS pa ih je prepustio nekom trećem
Sad mu je napet Feltrinelli, piskaranje recenzija za filmove i glumljenje nekog geek celebritya.
Da sam na njegovom mjestu bilo bi me sram, ne znam jesi li ti pogledao one tribine sa Lucca comicsa gdje mu je u svakom videu Masiero (šaljivo) spočitavao da se uopće ne bavi pisanjem scenarija za stripove što mu je osnovni posao. Njegova je sreća što nemaju nikog boljeg pa mu sve to dopuštaju.
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solar
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Posted - 28/12/2017 : 21:54:57
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quote: Originally posted by going going
quote: Originally posted by solar
Njegova je sreća što nemaju nikog boljeg pa mu sve to dopuštaju.
Kako nemaju? A Barbatova? Ona je po meni i bolji scenarista od njega i zaslužnija da vodi Dilana kao glavni urednik. Plus nije se razbacala na sve strane i druge serijale kao što je Rechionni na Orfane, Samuraje, malo Teksa, jedino što je odradila par brojeva UTa sa Roijem.
Nije slučajno da Recchionija traže na sve strane i da trenutačno surađuje sa 4-5 izdavačkih kuća, osim što je odličan scenarist (bolji od Barbatove) ima hrpu kvaliteta zbog kojih je postao praktički nezamjenjiv u Bonelliju. |
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