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jaki
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Posted - 30/03/2010 :  16:36:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2009/2009-02.html
Da li se tu računa i Amazon?

Ja sam fetišist papira!

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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 30/03/2010 :  17:02:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2009/2009-02.html
Da li se tu računa i Amazon?

Ne verujem. Inace, to ti je za proslu godinu. Evo i za februar 2010.
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torca
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Posted - 30/03/2010 :  17:22:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send torca a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2009/2009-02.html
Da li se tu računa i Amazon?

Ne verujem.


zašto? kako amazon nabavlja stripove ako ne preko diamonda?
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 30/03/2010 :  18:07:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I sveske?
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torca
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Posted - 30/03/2010 :  19:01:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send torca a Private Message  Reply with Quote
amazon ne radi sa sveskama.
sve i da radi, ista priča. ne vidim u čemu je razlika.
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 30/03/2010 :  19:07:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by torca

amazon ne radi sa sveskama.

Na to sam i mislio, moj komentar se odnosio na gornju tabelu. Trejdove i ostalo nisam ni gledao, verujem da si u pravu za taj deo.
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torca
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Posted - 30/03/2010 :  19:17:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send torca a Private Message  Reply with Quote
aha, ok. nismo se shvatili.
doduše mogli smo se i ranije shvatiti jer sam tek sad detaljnije pogledao tvoj link. nisam vidio da kraj trejdova sad imaju linkove na amazon.
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jaki
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Posted - 30/03/2018 :  23:15:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookmarket 2017 USA.
http://www.comicsbeat.com/tilting-at-windmills-268-looking-at-bookscan-2017-and-this-time-its-certified/

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jaki
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Posted - 18/12/2019 :  23:37:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zanimljivo...
https://www.comicsbeat.com/tilting-at-windmills-276-a-leak-a-rosetta-stone-and-one-path-forward/

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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 31/03/2020 :  22:21:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
diamond prestao sa distribucijom, dc presao na digitalu, marvel ni to...
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 01/04/2020 :  15:03:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
aukcija za komplet od svih 40k DC stripova:

https://www.sothebys.com/en/series/dc-complete-the-ian-levine-collection
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fler
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Posted - 02/04/2020 :  20:30:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fler a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha

diamond prestao sa distribucijom, dc presao na digitalu, marvel ni to...



Bome, sranje gdje god se okreneš.
Evo dosta detaljno o glavnim izdavačima:

https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/fpg3yf/diamond_publishing_and_covid19_what_we_know/




Što se aukcije tiče ..
mislim, kužim da se cijena skriva,
ali mogli su barem okvirno navesti početnu cifru.
Nekako mislim da baš i nema smisla kontaktirati ih čisto iz znatiželje

Split your lungs with Blood and Thunder

Edited by - fler on 02/04/2020 20:32:20
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 23/04/2020 :  00:22:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
u nedostatku top lista:

lokalni diler je juce navodno prodao 1000 long boxova za po desetak dolara... pet ljudi tovarilo sest sati

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jaki
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Posted - 23/04/2020 :  00:29:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
250 stripova u long boxu
super prilika.

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 08/05/2020 :  15:07:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
u martu najprodavanija spider-woman #1 sa 140k i 26 variant kavera... sve što ne valja sa direct marketom stalo je u tu rečenicu. videćemo da li će biti nekih promena posle korone.
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jaki
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Posted - 08/05/2020 :  15:11:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Variant cover je izbor kupca pa ako vole neka ih bude.

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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 08/05/2020 :  15:39:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Variant cover je izbor kupca pa ako vole neka ih bude.


naravno. moj komentar se odnosi na to da ovo nije prodaja kupcima nego prodavnicama, koje hoće ratio variants (tipa 1:100, pa da bi dobio tu jednu specijalnu naslovnu, moraš kupiti 100 običnih... od toga će 90 završiti u dollar binu za par meseci). zato je ova cifra od 142k totalno nerealna.
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jaki
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Posted - 08/05/2020 :  16:19:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Neralna?Pa toliko su prodali(izdavac).Kome prodaju i nije im vazno dok se prodaje.

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 08/05/2020 :  17:21:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Neralna?Pa toliko su prodali(izdavac).Kome prodaju i nije im vazno dok se prodaje.


Ma kupio sam i ja par variant covers nego su iste deo priče kako se prodaja pumpa na veštački način (takođe pisanje za trejd, stalno novi #1, stotinu naslova mesečno itd) umesto da se izdavači fokusiraju na kvalitet. Umesto da prošire broj čitalaca, gledaju kako da od postojećih izvuku što više para. Ovo prvo će ionako teško ići preko direct marketa jer u LCBS žene & deca ne zalaze. Ali u pravu si, dok im se isplati, neka piče tako.
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 06/06/2020 :  06:50:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zemljotres danas, dc napustio diamond i ubuduce ce distribuciju raditi midtown comics i discount comic book service. pitanje da li je jedan monopol samo zamenjen drugim ili ce doci do vecih promena na direct marketu...
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jaki
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Posted - 06/06/2020 :  13:17:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Uvijek je dobro malo promiješat karte

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fler
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Posted - 06/06/2020 :  13:20:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fler a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nisam baš upoznat s detaljima, ali Marvel je u devedesetima pokušao nešto slično.
Kažu, nije dobro završilo :)


Split your lungs with Blood and Thunder

Edited by - fler on 06/06/2020 13:22:03
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jaki
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Posted - 06/06/2020 :  15:29:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
https://blog.comichron.com/2020/06/dc-ends-distribution-relationship-with.html

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dennis-barger-and-brian-hibbs-agree-dc-quitting-diamond-reaction/

Ja sam fetišist papira!

Edited by - jaki on 06/06/2020 15:41:57
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Posted - 06/06/2020 :  16:07:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chuck Rosansky od Mile High Comics

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“This is an advance copy of my company newsletter, which typically reaches 100,000+ comics fans around the world.

DC SUCKS! 50% Off Codeword Sale Begins - Read why...

Howdy!

I was going to take this afternoon off, as I came in early this morning and spent four hours in 90 degree heat weed-wacking the Jason St. parking lot. My relaxation plans were all shot to hell, however, when DC Comics blindsided everyone at noon by sticking a shiv into the back of Diamond Comic Distributors, and Diamond founder, Steve Geppi.

To say that I am seething with rage right now, is a total understatement. I actually saw this coming a couple of weeks ago, but was hoping against my own common sense that the new owners of DC (AT&T) would come to the realization that keeping Diamond alive was critical to the revival of the 2,000+ Direct Market comicbook retailers who serve the core of their most dedicated readers. Instead, my own predicted worst-case scenario is now unfolding, with DC announcing this afternoon that they are severing all ties with Diamond Distributing, effective in three weeks.

So, what do the new kingpins at DC think that they are doing? Well, first of all, they want to drive more business to their online channel. Second, they think that they can do just fine on their trade paperbacks and hardbacks selling them to traditional bookstores through their distribution relationship with Penguin/Random House. Third, their recent "experiment" of selling $9.95 pseudo comic books through Walmart and Target has shown them quite clearly that they can generate massive comicbook sales without a single comics speciality shop remaining in existence.

All of those factors are serious, but I think that DC's real issue is money. AT&T paid one hundred and eight billion dollars ($108,000,000,000.00) to buy Time/Warner just 18 months ago. The exact amount that they paid in cash is unknown, but some portion of that purchase amount was an assumption of existing Time/Warner debt. Nonetheless, the debt service on those loans/bonds is easily six billion a year, and quite possibly more. Sadly, they won the bidding war on this incredible deal just in time for the pandemic to slam Time/Warner's business into the ground, and thus reduce revenues drastically. Simply put, the managers at AT&T are now in a horrible bind. They need immense amounts of cash flow to service their debt, and they need it immediately.

Meanwhile, while everyone at DC is freaking out because their entire ship is in danger of sinking in their self-created ocean of debt, Diamond Distributing sends out a letter to all of their vendors telling them that, instead of being paid on time for all of their products that were long-since shipped by Diamond, they will receive small incremental payments on the monies owed to them, over a period of 13 weeks.

As I am sure that you can well imagine, that letter from Diamond really was the death knell for their relationship with DC. Management in the past would have had fewer options, and far more loyalty to the long-term Diamond relationship, but these new guys are terrified that they are all going to be fired, so they want out. Now. Immediately. And they could care less about who is going to wind up as collateral damage. They are only concerned about saving their own sorry asses, and no one else matters. Absolutely typical self-serving NY financier/Wall Street BS.

So, what does this all mean? Honestly, I do not think that anyone knows for sure. DC is trying to force all Direct Market comics shops to now order their weekly publications from a couple of lame-ass pseudo-distributors that they have self-anointed. We saw Marvel try this exact same stupidity with their Heroes World debacle, in 1995. They lost millions in short term revenue, and even more from the debilitating effect that it had on their market share and their brand.

Of greater importance to me is the future of periodic comic books, and the retailers who can only cover their operating costs by selling those new issues. Frankly, my first instinct is to say that they are all dead, and that the party is totally over for new comics. Diamond Distributing is certainly at immediate risk, as losing their #2 product line (in an already depressed market) is a catastrophic loss. To use the phraseology of Wall Street, their ability to continue as a going concern is now in great doubt.

The same is true of every comicbook store in America, as the horrors of our Heroes World experience showed us all what an unmitigated disaster results from trying to coordinate multiple shipments from multiple distributors. It is an absolute nightmare. Not impossible by any means, but still an exercise in raw misery.

Truth be told, my greatest concern with the future of the Direct Market retailers revolves around money and/or credit. With so many stores having been shuttered for eight weeks, or longer, who has the means remaining to establish credit lines with these new "distributors," while simultaneously meeting their existing obligations to Diamond? Truthfully, this is a perfect storm of disasters for Direct Market retailers. Some stores will most definitely survive, but thanks to the unilateral decision today by DC Comics, I think that number of surviving entities was just reduced drastically. It is a sad, sad day in the history of comic books.

As regards Mile High Comics, I believe that we are going to be just fine. I was nearly four million dollars in debt nine years ago (including a million dollars (!) in outstanding Diamond invoices), and deduced that my operating losses were mostly resulting from unsold new issues that we ordered for our clients, but which they then failed to purchase from us. Simply put, I started reducing new comics as a key element of our company product mix, and immediately saw things turn around for us. We paid off most of our company debt through the sale of our 56th Ave. building three years ago, and (finally) paid Diamond totally off last week. I will never again (ever) go in debt for new comics.

So you know, we are doing reasonably well right now selling back issues and books online, and operating our awesome Jason St. Mega-Store with a focus on families and pop culture products. I plan to still be around to serve you for many years to come, and we are actively buying collections every day with that future prosperity in mind. Meanwhile, however, I feel very badly for Steve Geppi, as he is my dear friend, and he also generously helped us in so many ways to stay in business during those years when we were down and out. I wish that there was something that I could do to help him right now, but the new guys at DC have come for him with their heartless knives, and all I can do is to watch the resulting carnage in dismay and horror. The cruelty of his fate is very hard to bear.

Your friend,

Chuck Rozanski/Bettie Pages,
President - Mile High Comics, Inc.

P.S. I am beginning a 50% off back issues sale today with the codeword DCSUCKS! I make no apologies for the forthrightness of my codeword choice, as I am rightfully and truly pissed off. The 50% off DCSUCKS! Codeword applies to all ten million of our back issue comics and magazines, including an awesome collection that Pam purchased this morning. Only new issues, a few variants, and our professionally-graded comics are excluded. The key issues from Pam’s new collection will be in our Premium New-In-Stock link at about 10 AM tomorrow morning. Please stay safe, and have a great weekend. We will all survive, because, love is love...❤️”
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50%popusta na DC u Mile High Comicsu

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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henry
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Posted - 10/06/2020 :  21:46:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit henry's Homepage  Send henry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ma taj njihov popust je obična fora. Namerno drže nabudžene cene, znatno veće nego kod drugih striparnica, i onda kad bude taj "popust" taman dođu na realno.
A što se Diamonda tiče, čitao sam iskustva nekih striparnica da im je bezmalo 10% stripova bilo neupotrebljivo jer su ih ovi iz Diamonda vrlo traljavo pakovali (tako je to kad imaš apsolutni monopol na distribuciju). Navodno, novi distributeri su mnogo pažljiviji. Videćemo do kada...

"Hegel is arguing that the reality is merely an a priori adjunct of non-naturalistic ethics, Kant via the categorical imperative is holding that ontologically it exists only in the imagination, and Marx is claiming it was offside."

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