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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:07:27
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Daj molim te..pa komentarisete mnogo gore crteze od mojih...a cudo da se vama ovde crtez ne svidja, a vecini italijana se svidja. |
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manhunter
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:07:45
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quote: Originally posted by Zeljko Ferri
Ceo Zagor serijal je karikaturalan...
    Ovo valja objasniti malkice...Većina Bonelli serijala ima realističan crtež, ili teži tome. Izuzev Sediolija i sličnih kreatura, crtež kod Zagora nije tipa karikature.
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tako da sam prilagodio crtez :D
Nisi. Ti jednostavno ovako crtaš i gotovo. Da si hteo da ga prilagodiš, onda bi ti crtež ličio na Ferrijev, Donatellijev, Chiarolin ili nekog od Zagorovih crtača.
Meni tvoji crteži Zagora izgledaju kao Alan Ford i to ovaj posle broja 400.
Druge stvari odlično crtaš, ali Zagora ne. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:08:49
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Nije proslo ni 2-3 sata a pregleda slike vise od 100...bahhh...pa dobro de, ne svidja vam se crtez, uklonicu ga sad. :D |
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:11:08
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Eto, resili smo stvar...ne svidja vam se moj Zagor i kraj price. Nema crteza , nema ljutnje. Ima ljudi kojima se svidja...
Svako dobro. |
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acestroke
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manhunter
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:14:22
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quote: Originally posted by Zeljko Ferri
...bahhh...pa dobro de, ne svidja vam se crtez, uklonicu ga sad. :D
Veoma profesionalno, nema šta.
Ako si hteo da se javljaju ljudi koji će samo da ti hvale crtež, trebalo je da kažeš. Ipak, ne zaboravi, svaka kritika može da bude konstruktivna. |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:16:50
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Ja nisam hteo ljudi samo da hvale crtez...hteo sam BILO KAKAV komentar....ali NIJEDNOG komentara nije bilo posle 590846879846978049 pregleda....obicno se kaze da je dobar ili da je sranje crtez..a vi nista..i to nije prvi put da tako reagujete na moje crteze Zagora...a to govori vise o forumasima nego o meni.... |
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acestroke
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King Warrior
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King Warrior
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:20:40
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quote: Originally posted by Zeljko Ferri
Daj molim te..pa komentarisete mnogo gore crteze od mojih..
trebas sacekati vece, preko dana je vecina ljudi zauzeta ili slicno.  |
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:21:11
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King Warrioru imas ga na fejsbuku..ovde mi ne pada na pamet da stavljam bilo kakve svoje crteze. Radi sta hoces sa njim, stavi ga ovde, sto god... |
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manhunter
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:23:21
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Čekaj, ti si dva sata čekao da ti neko komentariše crtež?
Broj pregleda nema nikakve veze, eto ja sam ovaj topic tri puta otvarao, ali na nekim drugim stranicama. Tako su možda i ostali.
Idi na topic u autorskom izlogu i tamo ostavljaj svoje crteže, pa ćeš i dobiti komentare. Možda ovaj topic posećuju ljudi koje zanima Zagor, ali ne i tvoji crteži, a tamo će dolaziti ljudi koje prvenstveno zanima crtež, a ne i ono šta predstavlja.
Pokušaj, ništa ne košta. |
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:24:58
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Da, ali doduse, crtez je pregledalo jedno 100-ak i kusur ljudi za 2-3 sata..i NIKO NISTA da prokomentarise...pa ja bi bio zadovoljniji da su SVI DO REDA rekli crtez ti je golo govno i nevidjeno sranje....bio bih srecniji..a ovako nista.... |
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manhunter
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:25:57
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I ne reče mi zašto je Zagorov serijal inače karikaturalan?
Valjda možemo da diskutujemo ako već ne gledamo crteže? |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:26:36
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ok, upravo vidio. Ciko cista petica, Zagor je zaista pomalo karikaturalan, mozda malo vise nego sto bi trebao. Da, cijeli stil podsjeca na Sediolija. No, poznajem i tvoje druge radove, ovo definitivno nije tvoj najbolji crtez, ali tvoj talentat je neosporan. Vjerujem u tebe i zaista se nadam da ces uspjeti da se ubacis u SBE.  |
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:26:47
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quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Čekaj, ti si dva sata čekao da ti neko komentariše crtež?
Broj pregleda nema nikakve veze, eto ja sam ovaj topic tri puta otvarao, ali na nekim drugim stranicama. Tako su možda i ostali.
Idi na topic u autorskom izlogu i tamo ostavljaj svoje crteže, pa ćeš i dobiti komentare. Možda ovaj topic posećuju ljudi koje zanima Zagor, ali ne i tvoji crteži, a tamo će dolaziti ljudi koje prvenstveno zanima crtež, a ne i ono šta predstavlja.
Pokušaj, ništa ne košta.
Ma nisam cekao, ali sam s vremena na vreme dolazio da pogledam ima li komentara..ali obracao sam paznju na brojke..reko...ljudi gledaju, a nista ne komentarisu....a da ih je dosta pogledalo , to stoji..mogli su bar reci...crtez ti nista ne valja....ali ok....meni svejedno. |
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manhunter
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:30:18
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Nije stotinak ljudi, u poslednja dva sata je bilo nekih 30 članova online. Ja sam ga otvorio 3 puta, ti nekih 5 puta i tako dalje...
Do večeras bi bilo komentara sigurno. Osim toga, crtež si sklonio tek posle 3-4 komentara na tvoj crtež, tako da ne vidim koji zašto se žališ da nije bilo komentara? |
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:32:58
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Pa eto, ocekuje covek od 30 ljudi da makar neko nesto prokomentarise..ali ok :D Da, bilo je par komentara tek kad sam iskukao za komentarima :D Ali ok...meni ne smeta....
Pa ima nekih crtaca u Zagor stafu koji jesu kao karikatura...a opet neki drugi rade realisticno, ali Zagor i Ciko su ubi boze losi do neprepoznatljivosti..ali ok..whatever.
Zagora sam crtao po uzoru na Zagora iz 70ih 80ih...tipa Ciko Serif naslovnica itd... ali ocigledno nisam uspeo. |
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acestroke
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:37:00
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quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Nije stotinak ljudi, u poslednja dva sata je bilo nekih 30 članova online. Ja sam ga otvorio 3 puta, ti nekih 5 puta i tako dalje...
Do večeras bi bilo komentara sigurno. Osim toga, crtež si sklonio tek posle 3-4 komentara na tvoj crtež, tako da ne vidim koji zašto se žališ da nije bilo komentara?
Mislim da je ZF ipak htjeo pozitivnije komentare, iako kaze da nije... neki ljudi jesu komentirali, pogotovo o tome kako im se Zagor ne svidja, iako meni izgleda dobro.
Pa Zeljko, jebote, jesi li svjestan da ima ljudi na ovom forumu koji pljuju po Ferrijevom crtezu Zagora... ? Sta si onda ocekivao da ce reci prema tvome...? Ima svakakih picajzli, kojim nikad nista ne godi, bez obzira kako dobro to bilo, ne uzimaj nista k srcu, covjece, i ne ljuti se ako kazu da im se ne svidja. Umjetnost ce uvijek biti kritikovana, kakva god da je. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:37:51
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quote: Originally posted by Zeljko Ferri
Pa ima nekih crtaca u Zagor stafu koji jesu kao karikatura...a opet neki drugi rade realisticno, ali Zagor i Ciko su ubi boze losi do neprepoznatljivosti..ali ok..whatever.
To je u mojim ocima tvoj veliki plus. Imas svoj poseban stil, ali uvijek je bilo vidljivo da si se drzao nekih glavnih crta glavnog junaka, tako tvoj Zagor je prepoznatljiv kao Zagor, nije neka slabasna verija Tarzana ili nekog tamo tipa koji je prepoznatljiv samo po orlu na grudima. |
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manhunter
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:38:01
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Eto ti moj predlog, otvori topic u autorskom izlogu i tamo ostavljaj svoje crteže. Biće komentara sigurno. I od običnih ljudi koji čitaju stripove, ali i od ljudi koji se profesionalno bave crtanjem.
Tako ćeš pomoću komentara uspeti da poboljšaš i nadogradiš stil (SVAKI crtač mora to da radi, ne samo ti).
Znam tvoje radove još od pre par godina i mogu da ti kažem da nisi ništa promenio od tada. |
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Zeljko Ferri
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:43:20
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quote: Originally posted by acestroke
quote: Originally posted by manhunter
Nije stotinak ljudi, u poslednja dva sata je bilo nekih 30 članova online. Ja sam ga otvorio 3 puta, ti nekih 5 puta i tako dalje...
Do večeras bi bilo komentara sigurno. Osim toga, crtež si sklonio tek posle 3-4 komentara na tvoj crtež, tako da ne vidim koji zašto se žališ da nije bilo komentara?
Mislim da je ZF ipak htjeo pozitivnije komentare, iako kaze da nije... neki ljudi jesu komentirali, pogotovo o tome kako im se Zagor ne svidja, iako meni izgleda dobro.
Pa Zeljko, jebote, jesi li svjestan da ima ljudi na ovom forumu koji pljuju po Ferrijevom crtezu Zagora... ? Sta si onda ocekivao da ce reci prema tvome...? Ima svakakih picajzli, kojim nikad nista ne godi, bez obzira kako dobro to bilo, ne uzimaj nista k srcu, covjece, i ne ljuti se ako kazu da im se ne svidja. Umjetnost ce uvijek biti kritikovana, kakva god da je.
O boze..pa ja se ne ljutim :D Vec samo konstatujem da su ljudi gledali a nisu komentarisali..nije bilo cak ni negativnih komentara. JA se ne ljutim zbog negativnih komentara, naprotiv..i sam sam rekao da osujete paljbu po crtezu slobodno...pobogu pa nisam dete da se ljutim ako vam se crtez ne svidja.....medjutim, za ovaj crtez ima i jednih i drugih...vecini ljudi se dopada....ali ukusi su razliciti. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:44:09
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quote: Originally posted by acestroke
Pa Zeljko, jebote, jesi li svjestan da ima ljudi na ovom forumu koji pljuju po Ferrijevom crtezu Zagora... ? Sta si onda ocekivao da ce reci prema tvome...? Ima svakakih picajzli, kojim nikad nista ne godi, bez obzira kako dobro to bilo, ne uzimaj nista k srcu, covjece, i ne ljuti se ako kazu da im se ne svidja. Umjetnost ce uvijek biti kritikovana, kakva god da je.
amen buraz
jos da dodamo da taj crtez nisu vidjeli pravi zaljubljenici u naseg najdrazeg junaka: Bruce SP., grofica, dzoni, Kandrax, -dp-, andjelt, attila, DJ, Ultras, Colt, kucak i mnogi drugi koji bi sigurno ostavili komentar. |
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manhunter
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:44:50
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quote: Originally posted by acestroke
Mislim da je ZF ipak htjeo pozitivnije komentare, iako kaze da nije... neki ljudi jesu komentirali, pogotovo o tome kako im se Zagor ne svidja, iako meni izgleda dobro.
Naravno. I ja da postavim neki svoj crtež, želeo bih da ga ljudi hvale, to je razumljivo. Ipak, čovek koji namerava da se profesionalno bavi tim poslom i da konkuriše kod SBE mora da bude u stanju da istrpi kritiku, pogotovo kad ona nije zlonamerna.
Željko je više puta tvrdio da on skida Ferrijev stil, a ja mislim da to nije tačno. Mislim da je sa moje strane sto puta bolje i drugarskije da mu to i kažem, nego oni koji će da mu pričaju "super, pravi Ferri" a smejaće mu se iza tastature. Ili ne misliš?
Osim toga, mislim da je kontraproduktivno kad Željko okači neki svoj crtež i počne da priča kako je crtež perfektan, pa ga onda malkice izmeni i kaže da je sad još bolji. Može on za svoje crteže da to misli, ali konačan sud će mu dati nadležni iz SBE i čitaoci, bez obzira šta on mislio.
Zato kažem da je svaka kritika dobra, ako čovek ume da je iskoristi. |
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Posted - 05/09/2011 : 17:50:08
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
jos da dodamo da taj crtez nisu vidjeli pravi zaljubljenici u naseg najdrazeg junaka..... koji bi sigurno ostavili komentar.
Ovo sve hoću da pitam, pa zaboravim: da li sam ja isto "zaljubljenik" tog junaka, ako imam SVE što je izašlo kod nas od njega, a i većinu italijanskih izdanja? Ili kako se to dobija ta titula, da pišem samo po topicima o Zagoru i vičem kako mi je Ferri božanstvo među crtačima?
Nije da ja nešto hoću da budem okarakterisan kao član Zagorolog Ltd., nego me zanima kako se ulazi u to posvećeno društvo? |
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