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DODSFERD
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Pitcairn Island
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 16:51:41
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Ako se ne varam još par meseci nas deli od ove "divote"

Ako misliš na ovo s lijeve strane u potpunosti se slažem.  |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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nagor
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Croatia
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 17:06:54
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Danas više cijenim te Dottijeve kadrove nego kad sam prvi put to čitao.
Samo ne znam zašto bi Tex bi grafički zahtjevniji od Zagora? :)
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 17:44:50
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Bez da spominjemo zahtevnost onakvog kadriranja sa konjima, kočijama, pejzažima, wwest gradićima, kadriranje bilo čega uopšte i ostale prčvajze? Ne bih znao
Otvori bilo kojeg novijeg Texa...ono šta scenaristi traže od crtača, i isti uspevaju da odrade po njihovim strogim kriterijumima je melem za oči. Daleko od toga da ću ja IKADA Texa kupiti zato što je Tex.
Ali nekih tridesetak komada sam jednostavno uzeo da bih lečio i izlečio oči
Evo ti poznatija zagorovska imena: Andreucci, Rubini, Piccinelli, Ginostatis, Dotti... |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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Deers
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Croatia
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 18:00:14
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Ne bih da se svađam s nikim ali ovakve kadrove može Ferri samo sanjati. Kaže DODSFERD da je Zagor više od westerna i da zbog toga Dotti nije za njega a zboravlja da je Metak za Kelsa čistokrvni Tex-western (a i Texovog humora ne fali u toj epizodi). Face su mu bile problem ali, kao što je dcopic spomenuo, davno je to crtano. |
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ike666
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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Zagor12
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markotamara
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Tommy.H
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sergej773
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Cuba
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 20:14:51
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Bez da spominjemo zahtevnost onakvog kadriranja sa konjima, kočijama, pejzažima, wwest gradićima, kadriranje bilo čega uopšte i ostale prčvajze? Ne bih znao
Otvori bilo kojeg novijeg Texa...ono šta scenaristi traže od crtača, i isti uspevaju da odrade po njihovim strogim kriterijumima je melem za oči. Daleko od toga da ću ja IKADA Texa kupiti zato što je Tex.
Ali nekih tridesetak komada sam jednostavno uzeo da bih lečio i izlečio oči
Evo ti poznatija zagorovska imena: Andreucci, Rubini, Piccinelli, Ginostatis, Dotti...
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velka031
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 20:28:03
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Mozemo mi reci sto hocemo, ali Texova crtacka ekipa je miljama daleko iznad Zagorove... Jednostavno, ukupan kvalitet Zagorovaca je strasno pao sa Cassarovima, Darcangelom, Sediolijem... Tako lose crtace da Tex ima - nema sanse! |
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 22:35:23
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quote: Originally posted by solar
Evo jedne dobre vijesti, D´Arcangelo više ne radi na Zagoru.
Ih, bolje da je neki drugi otisao. Ima mnogo gorih od D´Arcangeloa. Je l se zna zasto? Dobio otkaz ili presao na neki drugi strip?
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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ike666
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 23:15:42
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Oko D'Arcangela se stvorila neka velika negativna fama na forumu, a čovjek u recenzijama ima sasvim solidne ocjene. Pogledajte almanah "U oluji" koji je on crtao, inače meni uvjerljivo najbolji almanah. |
Rendal Mutant, Tkac, Jednooki Džek, Vatreno oko... |
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 23:17:04
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quote: Originally posted by ike666
Oko D'Arcangela se stvorila neka velika negativna fama na forumu, a čovjek u recenzijama ima sasvim solidne ocjene. Pogledajte almanah "U oluji" koji je on crtao, inače meni uvjerljivo najbolji almanah.
Meni drugi najbolji. Prvo mesto ipak zauzima neverovatno dobar ,,Covek koji je doasao sa kisom"!
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PijaniPatak
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legaz
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 00:10:52
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
I Pacifik! iz Ja sage je odličan ali gubljenje D'Arcangela je ipak za slavlje
još da nam se nekako ratosiljati Sediolija...
Iz tvojih usta u Božije uši. Taj je živi užas. A kada su ga spojili sa Vernijem ovom su nabili omču oko vrata. Em se muči sa statičnošću em mora ona jaja od Sediolinih glava da popravlja. Užas. Na to dodaj Buretovo objašnjavanje i razvlačenje priče do useravanja i vidi šta onda dobiješ. A zaboravili smo i na onog Marcello Mangiantini. I njega su mogli sa Drkanđelom lepo pod ruku. |
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karven
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Serbia
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 05:32:56
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quote: Originally posted by teller
quote: Originally posted by karven
quote: Originally posted by teller
Dotti je odlican na texu i los na zagoru...nek se on drzi vesterna.
Upravo tako, jer svi znaju da se Zagor odvija u dalekoj budućnosti a ne na divljem zapadu.
aj, ne palamudi...tex je vise manje tipicni western..dok je zagor svega pomalo...valjda ti ne trebam razlagat to sto zna svako malo dijete... Dotti je na zagoru los,nije katastrofa ali je los...poglefaj njegove crteze zagora..zagor ima traperice dva broja prevelike a ne tesne kako moraju bit jer je tako to zamisljeno... Zagor je samo 10 posto vestern a tex je to 90% najmanje... Ako nisi znao napisat nesto pametno..bolje da nisi nista...vako se samo brukas.
Ajd malo zakasneli odgovor zbog obaveza. Palamuditi ti tvoja mama može, a ne ja, tako takve izraze ostavi za svoju bližu porodicu. Sad kad smo to otklonili idemo dalje. Tvoje pametne postove svršavanja na retro Boneli produkciju te ne čine ekspertom za crtež, a ni za priču očigledno. Tvoje mišljenje o Dottiju je tvoje lično, i u to ne ulazim, ali da je loš na Zagiju, po mom mišljenju nije. A Zagor jeste western strip sa dobranim drugim elementima, ali postavka jeste divlji zapad. Mislim, možda nisi primetio koltove, salune, indijance, konje, kočije i ostalo. Preporučio bih ti da malo spustiš loptu kad ti se odgovor ne sviđa, nema potrebe za vređanjem. Nemoj se spuštati na nive gde izgledaš još manje inteligentno. |
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 12:50:57
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quote: Originally posted by legaz
quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
I Pacifik! iz Ja sage je odličan ali gubljenje D'Arcangela je ipak za slavlje
još da nam se nekako ratosiljati Sediolija...
Iz tvojih usta u Božije uši. Taj je živi užas. A kada su ga spojili sa Vernijem ovom su nabili omču oko vrata. Em se muči sa statičnošću em mora ona jaja od Sediolinih glava da popravlja. Užas. Na to dodaj Buretovo objašnjavanje i razvlačenje priče do useravanja i vidi šta onda dobiješ. A zaboravili smo i na onog Marcello Mangiantini. I njega su mogli sa Drkanđelom lepo pod ruku.
Mangiantinija sto pre izbaciti. Meni je on trenutno najgori crtac na Zagoru! D Arcangelo je u poredjenju sa njim fantastican crtac!
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mpavin
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mogorovic
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 13:45:10
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Zagor je, ustvari, divlji istok, odnosno "eastern", što je, znajući zemljopisnu odrednicu Darkwooda, kao područja na tromeđi Zapadne Virginije, Pensylvanie i Ohia, nepobitno. Problem je u želji scenarista da stvore western ozračje na zemljopisnom području, koje to nije. Stoga su i izmišljene razne avanture s beskonačnim pješačenjima na eksteritorijalna područja, u početku, naravno na zapad, a kasnije u razna područja svijeta, kada se i western "iscrpio", kao tematika. No, to i čini Zagora posebnim, vremenska anakronost i zemljopisna dislociranost. Događaje u Darkwoodu možeš sažeti u nekoliko desetaka epizoda, jer je to zemljopisno veoma malo područje zbivanja, pa stoga ne preostaje drugo, nego "odjedrit" iz sage u sagu. |
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ike666
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ike666
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 14:07:54
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quote: Originally posted by going going Mangiantinija sto pre izbaciti. Meni je on trenutno najgori crtac na Zagoru! D Arcangelo je u poredjenju sa njim fantastican crtac!
Mangiantini najgori pored živih Cassara i Chiarolle!? Ne bih se baš složio, daleko je on od toga...  |
Rendal Mutant, Tkac, Jednooki Džek, Vatreno oko... |
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legaz
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 15:30:10
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quote: Originally posted by ike666
quote: Originally posted by going going Mangiantinija sto pre izbaciti. Meni je on trenutno najgori crtac na Zagoru! D Arcangelo je u poredjenju sa njim fantastican crtac!
Mangiantini najgori pored živih Cassara i Chiarolle!? Ne bih se baš složio, daleko je on od toga... 
Kjariola je za Mangiantini maestro. |
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